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PS...My Indigo Blue SLT just hit 3300 miles and so far none of the problems on this board execept the gasket issue!
flopes, you mentioned you planned to insert a rear floormat between the seat and console. If you do, be sure and fold it. The nibs on one side could either leave many more impressions on your seat, or if reversed, could scratch your console. A rolled towel might work as well until you find some foam rubber or something.
Frank
-mike
I did pickup my new trailblazer the other day. The build quality does seem high. All the body panels line up well. Interior fit and finish is also good. Hopefully long term reliability will be just as good.
There are a few minor design issues that could have easily been avoided such as the rear seats can't be folded down with the front seats all the way back. This wouldn't be an issue if I weren't 6'2" and need to have the drivers seat all the way back. The steering wheel stereo controls for my premium bose system are limited compared to my Jeep Liberty. AM and FM are the only sources that can be switched from the steering wheel and not the cd player. I have a factory bose cd changer. The steering wheel control can only switch between cd's and not between the songs on each cd. It is little design issues like these that make chevrolet seem inferior to its competition. It is unfortunate since these are no-brainer common sense issues that should have been solved during the design phase. If this technology was leading edge, I would be more understanding. However, they are not leading edge and the other manufacturers are doing it better. Chevrolet engineers must suffer from tunnel vision.
Overall I am happy with my new purchase. However, if some of these little design flaws did not exists, I would be much happier. This is my third blazer. I loved my 89 s-10 blazer, wasn't crazy about my 98 s-10 blazer and I hope my experience with my 02 trailblazer with be the best yet.
Thanks for your inputs.
Another thing I've noticed is that the first ones people are seeing seem to be more loaded with options. Just an observation.
Good luck!
Thanks for your inputs.
Mike
BTW: I also talked to my service manager about the rear paint scrape issues on the tailgate. Surprisingly he said he has not heard or seen this issue before. He is going to write it up & research on the fix. About half of the TBs on the lot have the new design of the gasket & he is going to check it out as see what can be retrofitted to my TB. I'll post an update when I get one...
Also flopes, you are correct, the larger side of the split rear seat is on the driver side. Not sure what I was thinking.
.. Mike
Hey ! It's 70 degrees in Michigan today. A great day for an Envoy drive.
Also, I have to agree with vindog.. I thoroughly checked my rear tailgate and I am not experiencing the paint chipping around the license plate housing either? I know that my SLT Envoy was built in October 2001 and has pretty much been a garaged baby and not subject to the beatings of daily sunlight which according to past post may affect the expansion and contraction of the license plate housing causing it to scratch the paint? On the other hand, from looking at the TB's on the dealership lot, the design of the gasket looks as if it will cover up any scrapes or scratches that some of you may have?
My advise.... take a stroll out to your local triplet dealer and take a "looksy" for yourself.. pretty neat if we can get our hands on one.
Thanks!
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Allen
I just got back from my trip to Michigan from Columbus. No doubting Detroit is the king of the Triplets. I saw more of them there than I've seen anywhere else during my travels for work.
I would say the white and pewter production limitation is true as I saw three on the road and all were pewter. All were Envoys too. One in Flint, the other downtown and one in Livonia.
tim
GMC Envoy
Envoy XL
8-10 Est. final order due date 5/3/02
(G67) Load-leveling suspension production delayed until late-June-02
If anyone wants to try this preventive fix, you will need a 10mm deep socket.
When I first heard it the sound bothered me. Now I have put it together with the chipped paint on the tailgate. That license plate insert expands when it heats up and pops against the metal surface (and paint) of the tailgate. I can't imagine GM didn't see this problem coming in testing. This is the only problem I have with the truck, so I am otherwise very happy. I plan to wait a while to deal with it. Hopefully by the time I do, the dealer will know what to do.
Steve
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-mike
Ofcourse, the TB has a 2Hi setting which is why I selected it. Did not want the AWD when towing, I had it with the Astro and prefer to select 4 wheel drive only when I need it. No problems, no shudder. But the manual is clear, tow in 3rd gear to keep the engine revs in the power range.
12000 miles on the 2002 Bravada, still love it. A little wind noise and the mirror, but great.
I would agree the overall build qualtity of a Toyota is going to be better than GM, but the gap is getting more and more narrow. Have you heard about the Highlander engine problems? That Toyota denied until just recently?
Every mfg. has lemons. Some more that others.
We ended up getting the Envoy and so far have no regrets, even though we are still fighting the gasket issue.
We feel we got more for our money with the Envoy. So, to each his own, whatever floats your boat (or should I say whatever is capable of pulling your boat).
Enjoy whatever your have, most all new vehicles are fun (as long as you don't get a lemon).
Allen
-mike
Build date 1/02.
The ride I'm sure is excellent as the Caddy/Lincoln/Subaru system was great when it worked
On a side note the audi-all-road has 4 airbags and audi when questioned said that most are on leases and would be sold as certified vehicles after the lease and the certified vehicles would carry a warranty. They appeared to know that they would fail eventually which I was pretty suprised about.
-mike
Just about any car will be able to blow the doors of the Wannabe-Racers at a light for several reasons:
1) Wannabe-Racers generally are into looks and sounds rather than actual performance
2) Those cars are high reving top-end cars, not 1/4 mile or off the line torque monsters like a big displacement or SC car
3) Try to keep up in the twisties even with some of the worst Wannabe-Raced out cars and your buick will be kissing a pole
-mike
I think your numbers for air bladder replacement are way off. I have an 86 Lincoln LSC with air bladder on all four corners. I have owned it since new so I know the bladders have not been changed by others. It is the best riding vehicle I have ever owned.
About six months ago I started getting a slow leak in one of the front bladders. I replaced both at about $150 a copy for parts (including solenoids). Further, the only tool needed to do the work was one large flat blade screwdriver and of course the jack. It takes about 20 minutes per side to change the bladder.
With that experience, I got the bladders on my Envoy.
-mike
Anyway, the rear bags on the triplets shouldn't be a big deal. I looked at them a little the other day when I had my Envoy jacked up putting mudflaps on.
-mike