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If you don't like it, you can always sell the car and find some other vehicle to nit pick about. Basically, I am saying, you can express your opinion, but you are inviting others to try and agree with you and so far, none have. Well, maybe one who actually validated your claim, but I don't know if that other post really cares to get it fixed or would rather just not perform the behavior.
Respectfully,
Jeff
Bill
Two days? And you have time to sit at your computer? I almost violated my personal rule against eating in the car because I couldn't stand to leave it alone long enough for a meal the first couple days.:) Enjoy.
When I checked at 5:20 PM, there were now 25 messages entered between 10:48 AM, 6/12 and 1:00 PM, 6/13. Has anyone else seen this large anomily? or are the messages not available until they are reviewed????
What's a 5 letter word that begins with "ca" and ends with "che"?
Or you weren't at the end of the discussion at 1:00 pm.
By the way, when I drive long distance on the high way, bugs hit my windshield. Could you also check into that for me?
I guess I was skeptical about how the Advace Trac would work - I must say I am now very impressed!
Had you considered the A6 2.7T or 2.8? Those variants are more similar to the LS8 and the 530 you compared.
Bruce
I think this is a bug in the radio control software. This happens to me occasionally. I think it occurs when you open the driver's door and turn the key off in quick succession. The radio stays on but will turn itself off after a while. You can turn it off manually or you can reinsert the key, turn the ignition to "on" without starting, and turn it off again.
If you find a permanent fix to this, please report it here.
Joe
So far the car has lived up to not only the advertising but also this message board....Fun to drive,smooth, and in my opinion a real good addition and milestone for Lincoln.
Is there anyone else on this board who thinks I just 'nit pick' the LS? Anybody else wanna advise me to sell my car? Anyone think these are 'respectful' statements?
I won't argue with you. It's pointless since you choose to ignore info that doesn't fit your view. I will say that your statements about the % of LSs this applies to and your statement that 'virtually no one agrees with me' are both based only on ignorance. And both are mathematically and statistically wrong. The data to support my statements is plainly found on this board, by those with open minds.
Other folks who agreed or disagreed with me on this trunk issue were respectfully stating their opinion. You were just on the attack. I don't need your kind of respect. Please just ignore my messages, as I suggested to you before. And perhaps, try to follow your own holier-than-thou advice you posted on the Hyundai Santa Fe board.
Have a nice day.
Bob
Therefore, I'd say it's a defect. After all, since the AC takes some juice to operate, shouldn't it accelerate better with it off? Isn't it a bit hard to argue the converse to that?
This might explain what you felt (or, rather, didn't feel.) I certainly wouldn't classify it as a defect, but that's just my opinion.
Just wanted to make sure. I know it will help me when I get on the onramp though on the Freeway..
Regards,
Airwolf1000
Airwolf1000
No, the messages here are not held for review. If they were, some of the bickering you see here might never see the light of day. ;-)
Whether your browser's cache is involved would depend on several factors - how you entered the page, how the cache was set up, and most importantly if you were viewing the page for the second time - seems unlikely to me that you would have been viewing a cached page, but it is possible.
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Well I appreciate your response back...let me know if your tranny housing plate heats up ..kind of like a few members on this board..hee hee!
Bill
A flag is set when the car is in motion that disables the remote trunk release. When the vehicle stops, the computer resets the flag. When you turn on the ignition it also resets the flag. If you turn off the vehicle before it stops, it doesn't get a chance to reset the flag so the remote trunk release doesn't work.
The other way to do it would be to check the vehicle speed each time, but that may not be possible or desirable when the ignition is off. You could also check to see if the ignition is off and allow the remote release, but that also yields the possibility of the trunk opening while coasting with the ignition off. But if you're doing that then you have bigger problems to worry about.
It's easy to understand how this happened (from a software development standpoint) and it's not a big deal. It probably isn't high on the priority list of things to be fixed, but if nobody reports it then it will never be fixed. Doesn't sound like a nitpick to me.
I know I'm going out on a limb here and no insult or sling intended at anyone, just an observation or two. Patient: Doctor, my eye hurts when I do this. Doctor: Don't do that. On both instances the solution is totally preventable and doesn't require much work on anyone's part. If the trunk lock doesn't unlock because you like to turn off the ignition while you are still rolling, don't do that. An extra second to stop isn't going to kill you.
If you think the car has a defect because there doesn't appear to be an appreciable difference in power when you floor it compared to manually turning off the A/C turn it off manually if that's what gets your jollies off.
Everything in life is not perfect. Things happen. Things like this is why we can't start lawnmowers without fifteen different safety interlocks and why stepladders have more warnings than steps.
If this is all anyone has to worry about, thank your lucky stars. If you like to look for flaws you'll find them no matter where you look.
Personally, I'd rather focus on the big picture and not sweat the small stuff, but then again that's me.
Respectfully...Again,
Jeff
I finally had to relinquish my LS to my wife for a trip to Sacramento today...(I took the 99 Lincoln Continental to work...and it was like night and day. The Continetal bobbed and bounced over the mountains and I felt every lb. of it's large frame trying to go around the curves! (I never used to notice till I started zooming around in the LS)
I heard that Lincoln is coming out with supercharged engine in the LS sometime in 03' did I hear wrong? any site stories on this?
On another note...Lincoln's 0.0% interest campaign must be hitting BMW right where they live. They released a rebuttal commercial to it today on the radio...totally lame. It had a desparation air to it, ballyhoing their own great interest rates (which they never seemed to mentioned for comparison (maybe cause there isn't anything lower than 0)...Just wished I had waited another 2 months before I got my lease at 3.5%...oh well!
Appreciate any knowledge on the supercharger thing...
Bill
Brian: You say "If you like to look for flaws you'll find them no matter where you look." implying that I was scouring the LS looking for something to [non-permissible content removed] about. This is far from the truth. Here's what happened:
I shut my car off, got out, pressed the key fob and the trunk would not open. Tried the dash button with the same result. So are you saying you (and alpha) think this is nitpickin and purposely lookin for flaws??? Would you have said "Well, I'm sure the all-knowing Jac Nasser has a good reason for not letting me open my trunk just now, so I'll just forget about it."??
Not being a Nasser sycophant (or fan for that matter), this bothered me and so the next time it happened I figured out what was happening and reported it to the board. Isn't that what this freakin forum is all about??? Why has my simple report of this 'feature or bug' depending on which camp you're in, caused such a ruckus? You've already said you don't think it's a problem and I accepted that. Why jump back in? Shall I (we) pass our findings thru you and alphanstein in the future to see if they're worth mentioning to the rest of the folks?
And Jeff: Sorry, but I think your 'apology' is FOS. Your original message said only one thing about the dead trunk issue "I think it's a nice safety feature." **All** the rest of your message was about ME and what I could do.** And when you end your mea culpa with "Take it how you may though" that does more to indicate to me where you're coming from than anything else.
And as far as interlocks on lawnmowers and warnings on ladders, those things are there to protect people who think it's a safety feature when a car won't allow you to electronically open it's trunk when the car is stopped. Anyone who thinks that has a screw loose. And it ain't in the trunk.
Finally, I can't believe how many people didn't recognize txmxman's msg as sarcasm aimed at me. Perhaps that's why alphanstiens original BS was ignored as well.
This whole discussion was civil and just about to end when alphanstein jumped in with his suggestions for me to sell my car. I had to respond to his crap and then billincal got his undies in a bunch because no one was paying attention to him then txmxman tosses his brain onto the fire and now et tu, Brian? Yeah, I'm angry, because all this BS over a simple thing.
To paraphrase a great American philosopher: "Can't we all just get along?" and allow people to report what they find without passing judgement or suggesting they sell their car if they don't like it?
Wayne
Wayne
On a sadder note, I noticed a puddle under my car at work today. At first I thought it was tranny fluid as it is red. Come to find out the power steering resevoir is only half full. I crawled under the car and the red fluid is all down the right side. Oh well, it appears that I've blown a hose and I "have" to drive it to work tomorrow. After work I visit my dealer and will post the results.
Brian HELP!!!!! I can't get rid of this silly grin from last Sat!!!!!
We've got to assume that there are a certain number of folks who come to this site each day expecting to learn something -- they could be here for the first time. The rest of the traffic deals with those of us who have been participating here for months (or years).
I'm on record as a simplicity-driven performance-oreinted (love them hyphens) buyer of an LS manual, and I tend to throw stones at those who obsess over cell phone hookups, how the trunk opens (or doesn't), whether there are "mystery beeps" to be endured, how awful it is if the automatic seat repositioning system doesn't work correctly, how my lease deal compares with yours and any number of other things, but I still enjoy reading the board.
If the purpose here is to somewhat encourage those who haven't obtained one of our beloved LS's, there's room for improvement. If the purpose is to exhibit one's ego, well. . .bring your lunch.
Here is my contribution. After 18 months of ownership, I discovered that pushing the RDS button ('00 base system) with the ignition off will cause the clock to display the time for 10 seconds. Couldn't find any reference to this in my (6/99) edition of the OM. Discovered quite by accident during a 5-hour detailing frenzy on my day off. And all this time, I was turning the key to display the time. Now it will be easier for me to compute how long I have until my wife, the LS widow, asks me when I'll be finished bonding with my car.
It really does run better when it's clean
Have a good night, all. It's bedtime on the east coast.
I personally like to hear about others problems/annoyances as the solutions and comments that are provided help me in fixing it, living with it or in dealing with the service writer in its repair. Hopefully Lincoln people are logging them for product enhancement or reliability fixes in providing continuous improvement to what is a good car for the money.
Thank you,
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Mike
2. Don't put the LS on a pedestal (it weighs too much!). It isn't perfect. Don't bash people who say they don't like it. Don't bash people who say they prefer another brand. It's their money and their opinions. Think about it - would you like a BMW owner telling you that you bought the wrong car? I don't think so - so don't do it to them. Just make sure folks have all the facts to make their decision.
3. Finally - it's just a car. It's not life or death (unless you were riding with Brian last weekend). Lighten up. Have some fun. I'm not trying to preach, just asking people to respect each other. No need for name calling or holier than thou attitudes.
Wonder what Lincoln is going to be putting on the new LSes? Goodyears, Michelins, BFGs? Can't see them going to Pirellis since they are pretty high-end and Lincoln hasn't used them in the past. Michelins and Goodyears would be my guess. What do y'all think?
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