"I agree. People who are suspecious like yourself shouldn't buy it. They should spend thousands of dollars more and buy a new one.
That's why I suggested finding out more about the body damage.
A couple of years ago, I came out of Costco to find a nice dent in the rear quarter panel of the Accord I owned at the time. no note was left of course.
I paid my deductable and I had a quality body shop do the repair. The bill came to 1200.00 and the damage was undectable.
Had my car been in "an accident"...well...yes.
Was it a lesser car because of this...not at all!
This could happen to your Odyssey tomorrow and it won't make it a bad car.
"Why did the owner get rid of it?"
Again, if this worries a prospective buyer, they should buy new and not used.
People get rid of perfectly good cars everyday, "
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isellhondas, I totally disagree with you on this. On your example about your Accord regarding if the damage detectable. The answer is no and yes. To some people who is not into details, they can't tell. If you look at the details you can. If someone re-painted a fender, the fender will most often have some slight color variation. The bad part is, non-original paints get chipped and faded at a higher rate than original paint. So over time (more than 2 years), even a blind person can tell because he or she can feel the extra rock chips in the re-painted area with their fingers.
For such a new vehicle that has been in an accident, one need to find out what was really done. If you can save $500 to $1000, go buy a new one. Be sure to not compare to the MSRP price because cars are often sold at much much below MSRP. The fact is one need to find out the current market value.
"I recently took in a perfect 2005 Odyssey that I sold new. It too, has 8000 miles on it. The owner simply decided she wanted a different color and wanted to upgrade her NAVI-DVD to a Touring at the same time."
isellhondas, I disagree with you once again. I would never buy a 8000 miles new car from a dealer. The reason is they are there to make a profit so they will price the car like a new car. If I am only saving $2000 to $3000 for a used 8k van, why not get new. If I can afford $30,000, then I can afford $32000. Buying a used car, you don't get that good feelings/smells of a new car. In addition, you don't know if the car has been properly broken in.
I disagree with you as well. A QUALITY body shop can do such a good job repairing a car that you would never know there had been a problem.
I've been around a LOT of body shops and IF the job is done right it's no big deal.
And, not everybody feels like you...this was/is my point. If you are uncomfortable buying my 8000 mile near perfect Odyssey...DON'T. I'll charge you several thousand more and put you in a new one.
Modern cars don't require much of a break in period either. Not like the old days when it was more important.
I DO agree with you on one point, however...We ARE there to make a profit!
But, you know that if a car comes in with evidence of paint/body work, the UCM imediately lowers the trade in offer for it. Sure, if it is done right, it will be fine as long as you own the car (most likely), but there is still a $$ difference when you go to sell, so it should be cheaper if you buy it.
If it's minor stuff, he probably won't know. If there is evidence of something substancial, yes, it'll make a difference. Any used car manager worth his salt can tell the difference.
I am looking to buy a 2006 Honda Odessy EX_L with DVD/NAV. So far, I have been offered $32,575.00 in the metro area of Twin City. I need someting lower, don't miind the distance. Please hook me-up.
Classic sales person talk... It will get snapped up & the rest of the pressure tactics. As everyone else suggests, investigate thoroughly but if this car is "snapped up", there always is a better one around the corner.
I think they should just get rid of the car sales person who adds minimal value these days. There should be two lines when you go into buy a car a) For educated customers, who know what they are looking for, what the invoice price is & pay $300 - $400 over invoice b) The suckers line, where you need someone else to make a decision for you (including price). Car sales people would absolutely love to have more of these folks !!!
I am looking for an EXL R&N in a particular color. The entire Northeast segment has only a handful of these available in their inventory. Is this the norm or is it beacuse of the beginning of the model year? It's hard to negotiate when the supply is so limited.
Yeah...and the nasty customers with attitudes that think every car should be sold for nothing should wear special badges so we can spot them when they walk in!
isellhondas: "Yeah...and the nasty customers with attitudes that think every car should be sold for nothing"
You don't even know all you are doing is reinforcing the negative stereotype about car dealers, do you? So customers who don't want to overpay for their car are "nasty"? Frankly, that's exactly how most of us think car dealers view us. But what is nasty about being informed about the dealer's cost structure? You HATE that, because you would like to be able to claim that you have a reason for needing the profit you want to make. But in reality, if you and the buyer can't come to an agreement, why not just shake hands and leave? I left 3 area dealers before I purchased my Odyssey. They were simply unwilling to come off MSRP, because they thought they could get that from other consumers. And they probably could, so it worked out well for both of us that I got $2500 off MSRP, and they still had their car. But I'd have been a fool to listen to their rhetoric and get ripped off for an extra $2500. And I didn't appreciate being lied to. Try being fair and HONEST with your customers, and you will make a LOT more sales. Keep up the high-pressure and deceptive tactics, and you will only sell to the suckers, which are a declining segment.
But really, one would think you would have more class than to come to this board, where you know educated consumers are hanging out, and trash educated car buyers.
Are actually the ones I enjoy dealing with the most. I'm very busy and it's a relief whan a customer knows exactly what they want.
I guess you didn't read the post I responded to, and, yes, I should have sucked that up and simply bit my tongue as I usually do.
Knowing our cost structure is fine. I have no problem with that and I'm happy to discuss this with my customers.
If a dealer turns down an offer on a car, it doesn't make them a bad store unless they fail to treat you with respect. They are simply making a business decision not to take that offer. They aren't "ripping you off" they are simply turning down your offer knowing the market is higher on that car.
A lot of my customers are "be-backs". I treat them well, and when we can't come to terms, we shake hands and I thank them for giving me a chance at their business. I'll tell them that if things don't work out elsewhere I'll be more than happy to see them return.
After ten years, most of my sales are to repeat and referral customers. I must not be "thrashing" too many of my customers who are educated.
And, that's not my intent in these forums either and I shouldn't have pushed back.
Hi, I have a question for isellhondas. You said you enjoy dealing with the customers that know exactly what they want. So, for instance, I walk into your dealership with a Firm $1,000 over invoice plus tax, tag & title work offer a 2006 EXL RES NAV, would you consider it an realsitic offer. From what I have read it appears to be a fair price, on average. I'm not expecting you to actually say yes or no to this, but more or less looking for a sales rep's perspective. I know exactly what I am looking for, but don't want to risk looking bad to my local dealer because I'd much rather deal with them, but not going to do by paying hundereds or thousands more for the same thing. Hopefully being a repeat customer would carry some sort of weight with them. This will be our 2n'd Odyssey. Everyone wants a deal and I don't mind giving them a fair profit, but not much more. Thanks for any input. I think it is good that you make yourself available to give a different point of view.
Often what a shoppers considers to ba a "fair" profit won't reflect the reality of the market. If you make that offer on a day when we have two of those in stock with none incoming in the near future, your offer probably wouldn't work.
The dealer would have no fear of loss knowing those two Odysseys will sell quickly for more money. Just the market.
If this angers someone, it shouldn't but a dealer shouldn't be arrogant about it either.
On the other hand, let's say, three months later, it's the week before Christmas, the lot is a patch of ice, and by chance, the dealer has 40 Odysseys sitting on his lot (I wish!) than your offer may work.
We earn our cars based on what we sell. It's a tough decision for us, sometimes to decline an offer. On the other hand we need to keep our inventories turning.
And, yes, being a repeat customer DOES make a difference. I have had customers buy five cars and more from me. You can bet I'll fight to make them a deal an average person off the street might not get!
Thanks for you honest reply. Then my strategy would be to make a serious standing offer of what I believe to be a fair deal, knowing what we know, and just wait on them. As long as I am not in a hurry, maybe they will call on that particular day when they need to make a quick sale and we can just go get it. If we get impatient, them maybe we will expand our dealer search much more. Thanks again.
isellhondas: "If a dealer turns down an offer on a car, it doesn't make them a bad store unless they fail to treat you with respect. They are simply making a business decision not to take that offer. They aren't "ripping you off" they are simply turning down your offer knowing the market is higher on that car."
We agree on this 100%. I have no animosity against the local dealers who turned my offers down, or refused to budge off MSRP. They did try to pressure me a little and tell me that I would never get below MSRP (and in some cases would be lucky to not have to go HIGHER), but that didn't bother me because I knew I would find out if that were the case, and make a decision then. I was lied to by one dealer about his costs, and that offended me, but otherwise, we all shook hands and agreed a deal wasn't in our best interest.
I am sure you are running a wonderful business. I have just noticed a few times that you seem to get pretty adversarial when people talk about negative experiences with car dealers, or they are upset that they can't get the price they want. I think that is to be expected on this forum, however.
Yeah, I can get a bit testy although I try to temper my reactions.
I just try to explain that buying a car doesn't have to be confrontational. If a shopper feels pressured or uncomfortable, they should simply take their business elsewhere.
You were right isellhondas. It did get snapped up! My friend did not even have a chance to make an offer. The owner said he got the full asking price. Oh well, you loose some, you win some. Thanks to all who commented.
I'm shopping around for this particular model and the lowest prices I have are at $32500 from two dealerships. And that price includes destination. This is my first real post so I hope this helps someone.
Offered $800 over invoice to most of the bay area dealers. Rejected by all dealers, and got laughed at by one intenet manager: "You might have to wait for 3 years to get this price!"
Oh well, I am not in a hurry. I am waiting for that raining day when 40 Odysseys are on the lot. :P
Seriously, the best offer I got is $1200 off MSRP. One manager told me that they could do even better if it was not one with Nav.
I plan to wait for a few more weeks to see if the supply catches up a little.
1. brand new 05 odyssey with for $32,000 2. used 05 odyssey with 8000 mi and have been in an accident with $3000 worth of damage but fixed for $30,000.
they are both equipped the same with same color.
Most often this is what I find at the dealerships. The price difference is minimal for a car at this price. If the saving is not significant, only a fool would buy option 1 unless you are on the other side of the field.
isellhondas, Why are you here on this forum trying to make everyone to think paying more is ok. This van is in good demand but it is not S2000 few years ago or miata 15 years ago. The supply/demand will determine the price for each transaction. Remember, this van still has to compete against other dealerships and Sienna as well. If you are not going to be helpful in this board, please do not post. For the most part, this is a buyer forum whose main interest is to buy at the lowest possible cost.
----------------------------------- I have been offered $28,750 for a 2006 EX-L in the Dallas area. Still shopping as my trade is the problem. ----------------------------------- artgpo, Would you mind telling me the dealer name, or please hook me up, I also looking for the same EX-L in TX? Thx.
I am in Des Moines Iowa and I got Odyssey EXL for $28,500 (MSRP was $31,345). Dealer had only two in stock. I talked to 3 different dealers and made them compete for my deal. I would get a price quote from one dealer and show it to others, and others would come down. I did this 3 times and I got it at 28,500.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions.. And, also entitled to post..
We welcome the participation of salespeople, as they can give information and a perspective that most consumers lack.
Although you may disagree with isellhondas's opinions, I don't believe they are made with any thought of self-promotion or monetary gain. They are just his opinions, shaped by his experiences...
I don't think any of our members feel forced to pay more for their cars, due to his participation..
You provide my point again as you have done with the rest of the responses. Need I say more ?
Well I guess I can add something more. I think just like they are going after CEOs & corporate officers for providing misleading information & lying to the public, they should go after car sales folks for deceit & lying.
ildar, That's a very good price. If you try hard, you may at the most save another $100-$200. Check out dealerships in PA. No matter where you go, make sure no additional fees are added to the bottomline. If those fees are inevitable, make sure the offer has all those fees factored in.
Just started to price 2006 Odyssey EX-L with NAV and RES in the Bay Area. Anyone have luck in Contra Costa, Almeada or Santa Clara counties. Some other dealers quoted MSRP.... I dont think so.
Is the price below good for the Bay Area?
This is an Interent quote from Walnut Creek Honda Model: Odyssey EXL with DVD/Navi Model#RL387 Color: Any MSRP:35145.00 Walnut Creek Honda's internet price:(including destination): $34145.00 This price does not include accessories, tax, license, or documentation fee.
I live in the Dallas area and was looking for a 2005 Odyssey EX-cloth. Contacted around 6 dealers in the area and was told they were out of 2005's but they were getting 2006's. I looked up the pricing for the 2006 EX-cloth and came up with a target price of $26500 (incl destination) which is approximately $400 over invoice. I presented this figure to the various dealers (through email) and was basically rebuffed (one dealer said I should expect to pay MSRP). However, when I mentioned my Costco membership to the internet guy at David McDavid Honda (Frisco) I was told that the prenegotiated Costco price was $750 over invoice, or $26852. I offered to split the difference between my target price and the prenegotiated price, which was quickly accepted. My OTD price was $28742 including the EPP protection package.
The color we wanted (slate green metallic) was not immediately available so we waited 2 weeks for delivery. We picked it up last weekend with a full tank of gas and 8 miles on the odometer. Overall this was a very quick and painless buying process. I'd recommend this dealership.
By the way, I ended up doing my financing through Costco as well since their rate was the best I could find.
My advise it to buy the new car. Saving a few thousands on the 05 is not the choice you want to make because: 1) car that involved in accident and got repainted will never drive the same (may have small rattle noices) and the paint will not be as good as original paint, no matter how good the paint job is , I have seen it happened. 2) 2006 model will have more resale value ofcourse. 3) 2006 model has better features than 2005's 4) peace of mind..knowing that you don't have to mess around with the uncertainty encounter, after all, you have to spend 28000+. That is not a small amount. Pay another grand and get at 06 EX-L.
Ofcourse, I am not against buying old and good cars if you think you have a good deal. But if you can afford the 06 model, go for it! :-)
A properly repaired car will absoultly drive "the same" after a minor accident. things have changed a lot in the past 30 years when it comes to auto body repair.
Yes, the 2006 will certainly be worth a lot more down the road but if the buyer is the type who keeps his/her cars 10 years that won't matter.
2006's have exactly the same features as the 2005's. Nothing was changed.
Number 4...A good reason. If a person is too afraid of that 2005, it would make no sense to buy it. I think we were talking about more than a grand though.
Generally, the state selling the vehicle collects sales tax even if it's at a different rate for the state you live. I live in FL and bought in GA so the dealer collected 6 percent then sent a check out our state tag office, that way it was collected at the time of purchase and rolled into my loan.
Once the check was received (about a week) I was notified by mail from the dealer and transferred our FL tag to this vehicle. This is something you really don't have to worry about as dealers know the ropes and state rates. I would be more concerned with how your lender wants it handled.
Ody06, Just so you get more comfy with the lingo and configuration, DVD aka Rear Entertainment System is standard in 06 on the Touring, the Navigation System (N or Navi) is optional. In 05 both were options and some salespeople know less about their product changes than edumacated consumers and misinform.
The best help I can provide you is that Edmunds is right on target for identifying fair market value aka a good deal. I figured that out after doing months of research in places I can't mention here. I got a fair but not the absolute greatest deal as availability and timing was the key for us, just sold one vehicle, needed a replacement quick. Maybe I'm being truthful about price and others just want bragging rights or traded and that clouds what they really paid? It seems very difficult to use the invoice up approach on a Touring, perhaps $2K below MSRP is a good place to end up. Anyway, our Touring R&N, (that by my comments technically should be called just an N) came from Henessy Honda in Woodstock GA, just N. of Atlanta as they gave me option-a-thon (with sun'flector, bug'flector, side'flectors, cargo table & legs + more at delivery) at cost in the mid-37's including destination, before T&T. They beat two local Honda dealers by about $1,500 plus they offered no discount for add-ons. This was a flawless transaction and I highly recommend them or at least using e-mail for coordination, less BS involved.
Not that you asked but the Navi is very useful, not sure if you travel out of a known area. I thought I'd never use it but find it helpful for the simplest things like phone numbers to make dinner reservations, 'what if' vacation scenarios, etc. Something to consider if you want to tour in your Touring, good luck!
We ordered ( $100 deposit) a 06 EX-L with res/navi from a Portland, Oregon dealer St John's Honda, the price was $33,673 that includes destination. Good dealership, fantastic to work with, very straightforward. You can order any color you want. (MSRP $35,145) There is not much on the lots around here as most are pre-sold. Just got word that its been built and on its way from Alabama! Most dealers in our metro area start at way above MSRP. So we felt good about the price and that we could order exactly what we wanted and that there will not be any test-drive miles on the vehicle. Good Luck!
You said, "2006's have exactly the same features as the 2005's. Nothing was changed."
You more so than most, know better (even more so than me). There are quite a few small changes for 2006.
Here are some I know about, feel free to chip in as it may help those shopping decide on what to buy: Third row LATCH anchors are back, aft badge moved from right to left, Leather steering wheel on EX-L, XM standard on Touring, RES standard on Touring.
I feel the need to mention for the umpteenth time that despite the HP rating going from 255 to 244, it was because metric/test changed, not the engine.
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Would you pls post me the deal infor... i am also looking for the same vehicle...
Tx
That's why I suggested finding out more about the body damage.
A couple of years ago, I came out of Costco to find a nice dent in the rear quarter panel of the Accord I owned at the time. no note was left of course.
I paid my deductable and I had a quality body shop do the repair. The bill came to 1200.00 and the damage was undectable.
Had my car been in "an accident"...well...yes.
Was it a lesser car because of this...not at all!
This could happen to your Odyssey tomorrow and it won't make it a bad car.
"Why did the owner get rid of it?"
Again, if this worries a prospective buyer, they should buy new and not used.
People get rid of perfectly good cars everyday, "
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isellhondas,
I totally disagree with you on this. On your example about your Accord regarding if the damage detectable. The answer is no and yes. To some people who is not into details, they can't tell. If you look at the details you can. If someone re-painted a fender, the fender will most often have some slight color variation. The bad part is, non-original paints get chipped and faded at a higher rate than original paint. So over time (more than 2 years), even a blind person can tell because he or she can feel the extra rock chips in the re-painted area with their fingers.
For such a new vehicle that has been in an accident, one need to find out what was really done. If you can save $500 to $1000, go buy a new one. Be sure to not compare to the MSRP price because cars are often sold at much much below MSRP. The fact is one need to find out the current market value.
007
isellhondas,
I disagree with you once again. I would never buy a 8000 miles new car from a dealer. The reason is they are there to make a profit so they will price the car like a new car. If I am only saving $2000 to $3000 for a used 8k van, why not get new. If I can afford $30,000, then I can afford $32000. Buying a used car, you don't get that good feelings/smells of a new car. In addition, you don't know if the car has been properly broken in.
007
I've been around a LOT of body shops and IF the job is done right it's no big deal.
And, not everybody feels like you...this was/is my point. If you are uncomfortable buying my 8000 mile near perfect Odyssey...DON'T. I'll charge you several thousand more and put you in a new one.
Modern cars don't require much of a break in period either. Not like the old days when it was more important.
I DO agree with you on one point, however...We ARE there to make a profit!
Imagine that?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The older the car gets the less it matters.
I think they should just get rid of the car sales person who adds minimal value these days. There should be two lines when you go into buy a car
a) For educated customers, who know what they are looking for, what the invoice price is & pay $300 - $400 over invoice
b) The suckers line, where you need someone else to make a decision for you (including price). Car sales people would absolutely love to have more of these folks !!!
Can you post that particular color that you are looking for?
You don't even know all you are doing is reinforcing the negative stereotype about car dealers, do you? So customers who don't want to overpay for their car are "nasty"? Frankly, that's exactly how most of us think car dealers view us. But what is nasty about being informed about the dealer's cost structure? You HATE that, because you would like to be able to claim that you have a reason for needing the profit you want to make. But in reality, if you and the buyer can't come to an agreement, why not just shake hands and leave? I left 3 area dealers before I purchased my Odyssey. They were simply unwilling to come off MSRP, because they thought they could get that from other consumers. And they probably could, so it worked out well for both of us that I got $2500 off MSRP, and they still had their car. But I'd have been a fool to listen to their rhetoric and get ripped off for an extra $2500. And I didn't appreciate being lied to. Try being fair and HONEST with your customers, and you will make a LOT more sales. Keep up the high-pressure and deceptive tactics, and you will only sell to the suckers, which are a declining segment.
But really, one would think you would have more class than to come to this board, where you know educated consumers are hanging out, and trash educated car buyers.
I guess you didn't read the post I responded to, and, yes, I should have sucked that up and simply bit my tongue as I usually do.
Knowing our cost structure is fine. I have no problem with that and I'm happy to discuss this with my customers.
If a dealer turns down an offer on a car, it doesn't make them a bad store unless they fail to treat you with respect. They are simply making a business decision not to take that offer. They aren't "ripping you off" they are simply turning down your offer knowing the market is higher on that car.
A lot of my customers are "be-backs". I treat them well, and when we can't come to terms, we shake hands and I thank them for giving me a chance at their business. I'll tell them that if things don't work out elsewhere I'll be more than happy to see them return.
After ten years, most of my sales are to repeat and referral customers. I must not be "thrashing" too many of my customers who are educated.
And, that's not my intent in these forums either and I shouldn't have pushed back.
Often what a shoppers considers to ba a "fair" profit won't reflect the reality of the market. If you make that offer on a day when we have two of those in stock with none incoming in the near future, your offer probably wouldn't work.
The dealer would have no fear of loss knowing those two Odysseys will sell quickly for more money. Just the market.
If this angers someone, it shouldn't but a dealer shouldn't be arrogant about it either.
On the other hand, let's say, three months later, it's the week before Christmas, the lot is a patch of ice, and by chance, the dealer has 40 Odysseys sitting on his lot (I wish!) than your offer may work.
We earn our cars based on what we sell. It's a tough decision for us, sometimes to decline an offer. On the other hand we need to keep our inventories turning.
And, yes, being a repeat customer DOES make a difference. I have had customers buy five cars and more from me. You can bet I'll fight to make them a deal an average person off the street might not get!
A deal just has to make sense, for BOTH sides!
We agree on this 100%. I have no animosity against the local dealers who turned my offers down, or refused to budge off MSRP. They did try to pressure me a little and tell me that I would never get below MSRP (and in some cases would be lucky to not have to go HIGHER), but that didn't bother me because I knew I would find out if that were the case, and make a decision then. I was lied to by one dealer about his costs, and that offended me, but otherwise, we all shook hands and agreed a deal wasn't in our best interest.
I am sure you are running a wonderful business. I have just noticed a few times that you seem to get pretty adversarial when people talk about negative experiences with car dealers, or they are upset that they can't get the price they want. I think that is to be expected on this forum, however.
Just know, you ARE on the model with the greatest demand.
Funny...the 1999-2004 NAVI Odysseys didn't sell very well at all compared to the other models. Go figure.
I just try to explain that buying a car doesn't have to be confrontational. If a shopper feels pressured or uncomfortable, they should simply take their business elsewhere.
It really doesn't have to be a difficult process.
thank you
Oh well, I am not in a hurry. I am waiting for that raining day when 40 Odysseys are on the lot. :P
Seriously, the best offer I got is $1200 off MSRP. One manager told me that they could do even better if it was not one with Nav.
I plan to wait for a few more weeks to see if the supply catches up a little.
Dealers in Denver are now offering 1000-1500 below MSRP but thats it.
1. brand new 05 odyssey with for $32,000
2. used 05 odyssey with 8000 mi and have been in an accident with $3000 worth of damage but fixed for $30,000.
they are both equipped the same with same color.
Most often this is what I find at the dealerships. The price difference is minimal for a car at this price. If the saving is not significant, only a fool would buy option 1 unless you are on the other side of the field.
isellhondas,
Why are you here on this forum trying to make everyone to think paying more is ok. This van is in good demand but it is not S2000 few years ago or miata 15 years ago. The supply/demand will determine the price for each transaction. Remember, this van still has to compete against other dealerships and Sienna as well. If you are not going to be helpful in this board, please do not post. For the most part, this is a buyer forum whose main interest is to buy at the lowest possible cost.
007
I have been offered $28,750 for a 2006 EX-L in the Dallas area. Still shopping as my trade is the problem.
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artgpo,
Would you mind telling me the dealer name, or please hook me up, I also looking for the same EX-L in TX?
Thx.
Could you please share dealer name in bay area from whom you got best offer. I got about $800 off the MSRP.
Which car would I buy? I would buy the new one. Where did you come up with the 3000.00 damage number?
I don't keep my cars more than a few years and at that time, a 2006 will be worth a lot more than a 2005.
But, not everyone feels this way and that was the point I was trying to make. Either I was unclear or you didn't read my post.
For a lot of people, 2000.00 represents a lot of money. They plan to keep theri car for ten years and nothing changed on the cars between those years.
For those people, the 2005 may make more sense. Can you understand that?
And, I guess I was right, since the perosn who posted that question reported back saying that Odyssey had sold quickly.
And you are correct..." The supply/demand will determine the price for each transaction"
I would get a price quote from one dealer and show it to others, and others would come down. I did this 3 times and I got it at 28,500.
Color was Silver Pearl.
We welcome the participation of salespeople, as they can give information and a perspective that most consumers lack.
Although you may disagree with isellhondas's opinions, I don't believe they are made with any thought of self-promotion or monetary gain. They are just his opinions, shaped by his experiences...
I don't think any of our members feel forced to pay more for their cars, due to his participation..
regards,
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Well I guess I can add something more. I think just like they are going after CEOs & corporate officers for providing misleading information & lying to the public, they should go after car sales folks for deceit & lying.
Comments are getting too personal.. Future off-topic and personal posts will be deleted..
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That's a very good price. If you try hard, you may at the most save another $100-$200. Check out dealerships in PA. No matter where you go, make sure no additional fees are added to the bottomline. If those fees are inevitable, make sure the offer has all those fees factored in.
Is the price below good for the Bay Area?
This is an Interent quote from Walnut Creek Honda
Model: Odyssey EXL with DVD/Navi
Model#RL387
Color: Any MSRP:35145.00
Walnut Creek Honda's internet price:(including destination): $34145.00 This price does not include accessories, tax, license, or documentation fee.
Thanks, BigBear1
Not everyone is obsessed with price. That was my point and the fact I happen to sell Hondas has nothing to do with this.
I'm sure whoever bought that 2005 Odyssey feels they received a good value for what they paid. That is what matters!
The color we wanted (slate green metallic) was not immediately available so we waited 2 weeks for delivery. We picked it up last weekend with a full tank of gas and 8 miles on the odometer. Overall this was a very quick and painless buying process. I'd recommend this dealership.
By the way, I ended up doing my financing through Costco as well since their rate was the best I could find.
Hope this helps some of you.
Dave
my initial offering from the dealer is 31300 with dest. OR $600 over invoice. Trying to get to $31K.
Plenty of stock in the area, so I am hopeful.
1) car that involved in accident and got repainted will never drive the same (may have small rattle noices) and the paint will not be as good as original paint, no matter how good the paint job is , I have seen it happened.
2) 2006 model will have more resale value ofcourse.
3) 2006 model has better features than 2005's
4) peace of mind..knowing that you don't have to mess around with the uncertainty encounter, after all, you have to spend 28000+. That is not a small amount. Pay another grand and get at 06 EX-L.
Ofcourse, I am not against buying old and good cars if you think you have a good deal. But if you can afford the 06 model, go for it! :-)
I would wait for a few more weeks.
Please keep us updated if you find any better deals. :P
Good luck.
A properly repaired car will absoultly drive "the same" after a minor accident. things have changed a lot in the past 30 years when it comes to auto body repair.
Yes, the 2006 will certainly be worth a lot more down the road but if the buyer is the type who keeps his/her cars 10 years that won't matter.
2006's have exactly the same features as the 2005's. Nothing was changed.
Number 4...A good reason. If a person is too afraid of that 2005, it would make no sense to buy it. I think we were talking about more than a grand though.
Once the check was received (about a week) I was notified by mail from the dealer and transferred our FL tag to this vehicle. This is something you really don't have to worry about as dealers know the ropes and state rates. I would be more concerned with how your lender wants it handled.
Just so you get more comfy with the lingo and configuration, DVD aka Rear Entertainment System is standard in 06 on the Touring, the Navigation System (N or Navi) is optional. In 05 both were options and some salespeople know less about their product changes than edumacated consumers and misinform.
The best help I can provide you is that Edmunds is right on target for identifying fair market value aka a good deal. I figured that out after doing months of research in places I can't mention here. I got a fair but not the absolute greatest deal as availability and timing was the key for us, just sold one vehicle, needed a replacement quick. Maybe I'm being truthful about price and others just want bragging rights or traded and that clouds what they really paid? It seems very difficult to use the invoice up approach on a Touring, perhaps $2K below MSRP is a good place to end up. Anyway, our Touring R&N, (that by my comments technically should be called just an N) came from Henessy Honda in Woodstock GA, just N. of Atlanta as they gave me option-a-thon (with sun'flector, bug'flector, side'flectors, cargo table & legs + more at delivery) at cost in the mid-37's including destination, before T&T. They beat two local Honda dealers by about $1,500 plus they offered no discount for add-ons. This was a flawless transaction and I highly recommend them or at least using e-mail for coordination, less BS involved.
Not that you asked but the Navi is very useful, not sure if you travel out of a known area. I thought I'd never use it but find it helpful for the simplest things like phone numbers to make dinner reservations, 'what if' vacation scenarios, etc. Something to consider if you want to tour in your Touring, good luck!
Good Luck!
You more so than most, know better (even more so than me). There are quite a few small changes for 2006.
Here are some I know about, feel free to chip in as it may help those shopping decide on what to buy: Third row LATCH anchors are back, aft badge moved from right to left, Leather steering wheel on EX-L, XM standard on Touring, RES standard on Touring.
I feel the need to mention for the umpteenth time that despite the HP rating going from 255 to 244, it was because metric/test changed, not the engine.