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Costco is successful because it stands behind anything it sells. Can anyone tell me of any good or bad experiences they've had when buying a vehicle at Costco?
Some Toyota dealers offer lifetime warranties... does anyone know about this?
and sierrashark... where are you finding the dealer ratings on the internet... which is very essential information?
The problem for many of us is that we live in areas where dealers do not exist or have only recently arrived.
Finding a place on the internet where information of dealer reliability is available would make honest dealers thrive and dishonest/uncooperative dealers/companies go out of business.
There's a very real reason why I will not buy another Chrysler product and why the companies and dealers for Toyota and Honda have a fine "quality control" reputation for their vehicles made in the USA.
Hopefully this thread will yield the information to help both dealer/company/purchaser to have a good experience.
That would be Laurel Hyundai of Johnstown, PA.
http://www.laurelhyundaipa.com
They are part of a local dealership group that sells Hyundai, Chrysler, Jeep, Ford, Toyota, BMW, Scion, Dodge, Lincoln and Mercury. Thankfully, our dealings with them have been good and they show no sign of doing anything that could change that. Hopefully you will find a dealership that will treat you well also.
What url have you found on the internet that shows the quality of dealer's service?
You mentioned several.
Thanks
http://local.yahoo.com/details?id=33666482
I have heard great things about purchasing through Costco. My friend purchased a 2006 Ford F-250 King Ranch Edition and saved way more than any dealer was offering at the time.
I still think that Hyundai is producing a great product. This is our second Santa Fe. We never had a single problem with our 2004 which our daughter now owns. My beef is with the dealer and national customer service. Hyundai consumer affairs is a farse. It's there in name only. This has nothing to do with customer service unless your car has a mechanical or safety defect. And now I'm wondering if they would back you on those issues. I will never purchase another Hyundai product because of thier lack of consumer protection or backing. Before all this happened we were giving serious consideration to trading in our other car and buying an Azera. Not anymore. They have lost all perspective of reality when a $186 repair bill stands between good customer service and future sales. We will continue to drive our Santa Fe but I will not let this issue die. This is just another example or corporate America crapping on the consumer because they can.
Beyond that, I would check out the Better Business Bureau for the area you are in. Also, google "auto dealer service ratings" and you will find a number of ratings sites that you can check out.
I realize there are holdbacks, spiffs, and dealer packs that help them make $$, but this is the first time I've bought a car with that much off invoice.
Good luck to all
There is also a direct link off the Edmunds home page..
Edmunds Price Checker
Edmunds Lease Calculator
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Where did you buy your 2008 Santa Fe?
$29482. What would be a good price to offer. Is it a good idea to buy a demo??
Is anyone still getting 1.9% finance? Rebates? Any other deals coming up?
This in :confuse: North Carolina.
I got $1300 under invoice on an '08 (of course no rebates on them.)
A demo is a used car no matter how you cut it. Look up the cost on Edmunds and KBB... and maybe consider a new 98 with additional options included for no more money.
Now that its '08, how much should I expect to pay for an '07 2WD LTD with the Touring Package in Slate Blue with leather, no sunroof and no other options?
Its not a demo, only 75 miles on it including my test drive today.
An earlier post to this forum said to start at $1500 below invoice for the '07. According to Edmunds that breaks down as follows:
$24379 invoice
$1216 for the touring package
$25595 invoice total
-$1500 (below invoice)
$24095 - starting point
$670 for destination (is this negotiable??)
$24765 total before rebate
-$1000 (rebate)
$23765 selling price after rebate and destination
Is this a good selling price or can I do possibly do better for an '07? Their first offer was $3000 off the 29,000 sticker (28k and change with add ons). I walked, told them I would call back later in the week after researching and make a counter offer.
The salesman said since it was an '07 they needed to get it off the lot and would listen to any reasonable offer. Suggestions? How far can I reasonably push this?
Sounds like a few of you out there got this same vehicle for about $22k last yr.
Thanks for the help.
It's always possible that the dealer might take another hundred or two off the price if you want to dicker with them. Still, the deal you're contemplating is a good one for both sides; if you buy at that price you'll have no reason to feel that you were "taken" since it's a very reasonable deal.
BTW, the Santa Fe Limited is a fantastic SUV. I've had mine for 8 months/6500 miles and couldn't be happier with it. Good luck to you!
Just briefly, we compared Santa Fe to the Pilot, CRV ('05 which we own and tested the '08), Rogue and Highlander ('08). Hyundai is so much SUV for the money and really refined compared to the others. The Santa Fe is more like a luxury brand vehicle for 15 to 20k less. Pilot and Highlander are just so big and don't have the tight steering / suspension that Santa Fe has. Santa Fe 2WD beats them on Fuel Economy as well. Highlander was quiet and poweful but less features for considerably more money and the steering was very loose. Pilot is "OK" but pricy. CRV and Rogue seem sportier as far as ride but do not have room (Rogue) or a quiet ride (CRV) and neither offer the 3rd row or V6. Have to say I was impressed with the Rogue. It was fun to drive. CRV handles well, very tight. Santa Fe feels "bigger" and rolls a bit more on tight turns. But overall the Santa Fe blows them away in power, features, price, refinement, etc.
BTW I've always been a Honda driver and I have to say the new CRV does not have enough power to get out of its own way and is terribly noisy. I didn't like it at all.
My only concern with the Hyundai is what the long term reliability will be since I have never owned one.
Price is one thing, service in this new company to the USA is something to take very seriously... ask, google, etc.
In price the vehicle... remember you have no idea what the dealer is paying nor receiving from the corporation... on an earlier Dodge I saved $5,000 by just shopping.
Then bite the bullet and don't look back after you make up your mind in this "auction"
This website is wonderful; I haven't bought yet because the 08 crash tests are not in yet and the 09s are on the way.
If your dealer is physically moving and they are a high volume seller, they have some room to make a deal. If they are a smaller dealer, they may look to max their profit. They don't get '08s until the '07s are gone.
Let us know how it goes
My car had a scratch (actually a couple of scratches) that I did not see until the next day, but the dealer (Gregory Hyundai in Chicago) completely took care of me and the car. They repainted the entire fender and completely buffed out a door scratch.
They also took care of the dome light problem and the Auto-climate control problem and reset the door locks to lock when driving during the viist while letting me have loaner for 2 days to complete all the work.
While I'm not crazy about the initial issues, I am very pleased with Hyundai service and the car has performed great for us.
Option 1: New 07 SF Limited w/ 3rd row. No other upgrades (no moon roof, rack, etc.) The dealership quoted me an "out-the-door" price of $25,557.00
Option2: Used 07 Santa Fe Limited w/ 3rd row. No other options. The car has 15,000 miles, remaining 5 yr 60,000 mile warranty and is at a Dodge Dealership. The sales person said it was traded for a Durango. I have not begun negotiating a price. Their internet price is $21,800.
How low do you think the Dodge people will go and is this the better option?
This is what I've been quoted at one dealership:
07 GLS, FWD, automatic
Includes Touring AND Premium Package
$22,500+TTL
That price includes the current rebates.
I'm going to check around at other dealers to see if anyone can beat this, but I'd like to see if this is a good deal.
BTW - just to make sure the Santa Fe was IT for us, this weekend we drove a Pilot then immediately went down the street and drove the '08 Santa Fe again. Did the same test last week with '07 Santa Fe Vs '08 Highlander and '08 CRV...Guess what?? In ALL cases - NO COMPARISON! Hands down, We prefer the Santa Fe - it rocks!!
I can't find the invoice price for 2007 models on Edmunds. Maybe someone can help me. I can't seem to generate the invoice price with options on the 2007 Santa Fe. I can find the invoice price on the base 08 model, but the touring package that I chose for the 07 GLS isn't available on the 08 Santa Fe.
Based on my guess of the invoice price on the 2007's, I'm still several hundred short of $1500 under invoice.
Does anyone have the exact numbers for the 2007 Santa Fe invoice prices?
Unfortunately, Edmunds has taken 2007 Hyundai pricing off their web site.
And some other manufacturers are already showing 2009 models!
Everywhere statements are seen that dealers are desperate to get rid of 2007 Sante Fe models... in my opinion in this market $22,5000 ... Buyer beware!
enlighten all of us as to where a lowest model 2008 with the appropriate options can be purchased for less. I'm sure todd80 would appreciate the information.
The following Saturday was "Car Shopping Day" for me.
After attempts by a couple of regular car salesmen to ramrod me into well used 2 yr. old Rios and Accents for the price of a new one at two of the well known dealerships, I decided to try the closest "one price" dealer. Didn't see anything on the lot in my budget range besides well worn PT's and an Alero.
As we were walking out, I noticed a shiny red something stuffed between a couple of newer Xterras. It looked RED red. Just like the Talon, but even brighter. Dazzling, almost. No price on it yet, as the salesman explained, they had just received it as a trade-in the previous day. I inquired further...
Ended up driving off with the 2003 Santa Fe LX, 3.5l FWD, 8100... yes 8100 miles and looks as if it had hardly seen the light of day for the past 4 years. Not a scratch besides a small ding on a rear quarter that the salesman promised he would have taken care of by the paintless dent repair guy, and he did.
Out the door for $12399, with 9 months on the factory warranty and a freebie 3 yr/50k dealer drivetrain warranty on top. I couldn't have purchased a new Rio with auto and A/C for that price. In fact, I was surprised to see how little the low mileage actually added value, as Autotrader and others list the same model with 55k to 65k for around the same price or $1500 more.
Had it for two weeks now and couldn't be happier.
Slateblue--thanks for pointing me towards carsdirect.com. I'm going to be buying another car later this year, and I'll have to read up on that site.
I'm still searching for the perfect iPod solution for the Santa Fe. As silly as it sounds, I sometimes think that if Hyundai included some sort of integration package (or even an aux port) I would have already bought the SF weeks ago.
My dealer gives loaners when a vehicle needs servicing, whether it's for a couple of hours or a few days. Unfortunately, the loaner I got was a Taurus and it felt like a step down!
Thanks
I am sure it is not the best deal, but it is all I could get. They wear you out.
$28300 out the door. No trade in. Took 0% finance for 48 months.
$26842 Limited/XM Ultimate pkg, mud flaps,first aid,cargo net,etc.
$ 1457 TTL
$28300 total.