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What do you think? Is the CIVIC worth the additional $1400? Am I getting a good price on the CIVIC?
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If your story is for real, I hope you called the GSM or the owner and related that story!
Other stores will vary, of course.
Toyota sells cars en masse to the rental car companies and Honda doesn't do this. That is a major reason why they move more cars. Trouble is, resale values are affected when these cars are dumped a year or so later.
P.S. I bought from Fair Honda last time--they were fantastic.
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I thought it was pretty high, but a friend said they had a good experience over there.
At Cush Honda of Escondido, San Diego:
2004 Honda Civic EX Coupe
+Fog lamps, mudguard, and door edge guard
Color: Red
$17,596 +tax and license.
The dealer said Factory Invoice was $16720.
From what he told me, all but one or two panels had damage, there was mechanical damage, the frame was bent, the front seats no longer slide on their tracks, etc. The car would have needed $16K of damage to be totalled but the insurance company only paid the damages - something like $9K. And gave him back his car. He compared it to re-using a crumpled and straightened out tin can - no can do. So he had decided to trade it in for an EX even before picking it up at from the shop. On his way from the repair shop to the dealer to look at a new EX, smoke started coming from under the hood (but stopped shortly thereafter) and the airbag light went on on the dash. He gave the dealer some story, they took his trade and when he returned the next day to swap cars, the check engine light went on! He drove that EX away QUICKLY!
A couple weeks of pulling carfax reports on that car showed that it looked clean as a whistle - the major collision and insurance claim hadn't yet hit, nor had the DMV or police accident report. He has a new EX for only about $3 out of pocket additional costs.
Hopefully the dealer dealt with the problems before re-selling the car to an unsuspecting used car customer but who can know? Lessons learned: 1) beware of used cars - if it looks too good to be true... , and 2) if you have major collision damage, trade it in as quickly as possible and count your blessings.
Elissa
I know people are always asking questions on these forums, here's my turn. Any help would be appreciated.
I've gotten these internet offers so far:
Gwinnett Honda offered a 2004 Civic vP auto 4-dr (no sab)
$12667 base
$490 dest
$390 doc
$31 title
__________
$13,587 ($100 below invoice, $300 below TMV)
Ed Voyles offered a 2004 Civic 4p auto 2dr
for
12500.00 base
$ 490.00 Dest
$ 398.00 Processing Fee
$ 21.00 Title
______________
$13409
I have tried to go back to these folks a few times with the "but I saw cheaper on edmunds 6 months ago routine" and they seem to be not having it. I have also hammered them on the 05s being out next week. And yes, $399 is an outrageously inflated bs fee.
I am trying to get as close to $12,000 base as I can...if I can do that I'll pay their stupid fees. This is turining out to be a chore.
Advice, help, please?
Anyways, go there and try to negotiate a little more. You will have a little more clout if you are there ready to buy today. Personally, I feel I have gotten the best deals at Gwinnett but Ed Voyles is pretty close. Have you tried Hennessy or Team? I have bought from both of them as well and Hennessy is great while Team would be my last pick ahead of only Lanier Honda.
Did they include any rebates in the Mazda price?
A while back I responded to someone stating that Honda's were expensive. If the price on Mazda3 is indeed $1500 more than comparable Civic. My rebuttal was correct, that when comparing similarly equipped Honda and other makes, Honda is cheaper. Even if others offer rebates.
If you don't HAVE to have the new car right now, you can save $1500-$2000 later on, when the rebates are available again on the Mazda3.
At one point in the past, Mazda was offering rebates AND subsidized financing on their cars.
Is there any reason you want to trade down? If finances is the main reason, you can save your self a bunch of cash by refinanacing the current car.
You have a car with a known history, assuming you had it since day one. Unless you know something that makes you uncomfortable with such hisory that makes you want to trade down.
If you do go through with the trade, I hope the dealer is giving you some good amount of cash for the deal. Nissan's, in general, don't hold their value as well as Honda.
If you got the Civic new, the finance rate is probably better than what you can get on a used Nissan.
Sorry, not a chance he told the truth. -elissa
i'm still deciding whether to buy a 2005 civic lx a/t or a 2004 civic lx a/t. it all depends on whether the price difference is worth the added value to the 2005 release.
and do you think the special financing by AHFC of 1.9-3.9% would still be there in dec 2004 for both the 2004s and 2005s? (that's when i actually plan to buy)
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I bought my 2002 Si in January of 2003, brand new, with 8 miles. Last year a friend was looking to buy a Civic. There were a few dealers who had 2003's on their lots, and some even had them proudly displayed in the front.
Just don't expect to be able to get the options or the color of your choice. Most definatley you will not find an LX with auto. Most of the "keft overs" in the metro areas are manuals, and either top of the line trims or the entry trims. LX is right smack in the middle of the trim. I would not be surprized if LX is the most sold trim across all of Honda models.
Good luck
On Saturday afternoon after a trip to the Honda service dept where they indicated my 89 Accord with 227K need some work, I decided it was time for a new car.
I logged onto edmunds and requested quotes from 3 dealers on a 04 Civic LX. Within an hour I had two quotes, both around $14,400. Monday morning I emailed the two dealers to determine if they had the color I wanted in stock. One replied fairly quickly I called her and the deal was done. I told her I wanted no addons and when I arrived at the dealership there was no pressure to add anything.
Edmunds, THANK YOU
This is what I got:
New '04 Honda Civic EX Coupe with: splash guards, door edge guards, pin stripes, in red, and of course, the usual front and rear standard floor mats
Cost: $18,300.00 OTD
I thought I could go lower, but I think this was a fair deal for both me and the dealer. As much as I hate jackazz dealers, I didn't want to be a jackazz customer, and I respected this dealer.
Best luck to everyone else looking for a car.
Check a few posts back for the list of dealers to stay away from.
Deal 1) 2004 Honda Civic LX Manual with Side Air bags:
$15,400 out the door (including a new tag).
Deal 2) 2004 Saturn ION2 for $13,900 out the door. The ION2 has a few more options (sun roof and 5 CD changer).
1. How can I make sure I get the maximum reimbursement for my 2000 Honda.(or where can I find the most accurate quote-the one my insurance company will be likely to use.)
2. Can anyone recommend or dis-recommend a Honda dealership in the Ann Arbor, MI area. I need a place I can really bargain with, and a deal that I can manage along with my gigantic school loans!
THX!
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Just this afternoon I got the following quotes
2004 Civic LX: $13,994
2005 Civic LX: $15399
2004 Civic EX: $15,994.
I thought the 2004 LX was a great price though the two colors are ones I do not want. (I am torn between the Corolla LE w/ABS and the Civic LX).