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Some friends of ours also were impressed with the treatment they received from Keller Kia during their minivan search (they ended up using the GM supplier discount and leased a loaded Olds Silhouette).
Even though Kia Towne is the biggest Kia dealer in the U.S. (according to them), my sense is that Keller Kia is a better place for sales and service.
I'll have to take a look at our 3rd row seat to see what the middle looks like. We don't have people back there very often.
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I'm driving up north this week.Anxious to see how many I see on the way up.
Natalie
My time is a bit more valuable than 0. Call me what you will, but I have gotten to the point where I am "paid" for my time on lengthy surveys. Amounts through $100 are not unusual. In this case, a free oil change probably would have produced a response.
Anyway, I reset (by pulling and re-installing) the pw(r), pw(l), memory, and BTS3 fuses in the engine compartment, and all is well. My humble guess is that I violated an operating rule over the weekend when I closed up the windows with the ignition in the on position, but never actually starting the engine. The driver door was open when I did that....
Anyway, 3700 miles and six months - nothing major to report, though I do need to get it into the dealer to obtain the cold start, engine hesitation adjustment.
Don't let that stop you from buying the Sedona. It's a fantastic value!
Good Luck!
Our 3rd row seat DOES have a plastic cover on the inside lower portion of each half of the seat. This seems fairly standard on seats, as it is probably covering some of the mechanical parts. There is a gap of about 1/2" between the left and right sides of the seat, both on the seat cushion and the seatback. I.e. the two halves aren't totally flush.
I don't see the hard plastic cover as a safety concern. The middle position in the 3rd row seat does not feel very comfortable, based on 30 seconds back there just now. I'm sure it would get worse on a longer trip. I blame this not on the plastic covers, but on the shape of the seat. As with most bench seats, the center position seems to sit further forward than the 2 outboard positions. This is usually a function of the outboard seats being scooped or sculpted, to add comfort for the outboard passengers.
The Sedona 3rd row seat isn't really big enough to accommodate 3 adults comfortably. 3 can fit, but they had better be pretty skinny. With 2 car seats back there, I imagine there would not be enough room for even a small child.
I'd call the Sedona a 7-seater, but only if 1 or 2 passengers is a child or a very small adult.
The other survey came from the dealer asking about the service I recieved when I visit them. For that one I did receive a free oil change.
I have 3 kids: 4, 20 months and 2 1/2 weeks. We also use 3 car seats with 2 in the back, but find it very difficult to get the kids in and buckle them. Doe you have a trick???
For the fifth time, the check engine light has come on. Previous 4 times, dealer technician said "loose gas cap"......code name is "EVAC system".
This is the 3rd time in the last 6 weeks
I just called the dealer, had some of his backside for breakfast (politely and assertively, of course), and will deliver the van this afternoon for a quick look.
I am starting to wonder if there is a good KIA dealer in Denver.....
Oh well, at least I will get to drive that Optima loaner I had last week.
Anybody else seeing this issue?
HOK
This problem has not occurred in our Sedona (we're just over 5,000 miles). Usually when I gas up the van, I tighten the gas cap so tight that I can hardly remove it when it's time to remove it.
hokum, what do you think of the Optima?
Looking forward to the '03's so I can start my purchase.
Stay cool, everyone. JC
We are lucky enough to have a very self sufficient big brother. He can get in and out without help and will help out his little sister. It is not easy when he is not around. She is mastering her carseat now. Maybe move the 20 month old up a row until he can do up the seat. Have the four year old help out as an important "job" - they love to be in charge! Good luck!
Remember, the rebate is YOURS, not the dealer's. You assign your rebate to the selling dealer in the F&I office when you sign the paper doing so. You are free to have the $1000 mailed to you if you wish to do it that way. Kia is giving you $1000 and you are giving it to the dealer. Therefore, it comes off the bottom line (out the door) price as if it were cash out of your pocket.
Codypup, the dealer's offer is really $19,500 because the other $1000 is yours--they want you to give it to them to make the price $18,500. Dealers like to include your rebate in their offer ecause it makes their offer look better than it is. I'm not saying $19,500 is a bad offer--people just need to make sure they understand what is included in those final prices. Good luck to all!
Why don't you see how close Keller will come to the Kia Towne price. In my phone call to Keller, the gentlemen I spoke with (Todd Kerkstra, if I remember correctly) was very professional. I explained we had spoken with a couple dealers local to my area (southeast Mich.) as well as a dealer in Columbus that was highly recommended. I got the impression that they were willing to negotiate and either match or come close to a legit quote from another dealer.
If you're talking a couple hundred bucks difference, personally I'd feel better about giving the business to a) the dealer that treats you better; b) the dealer whose service department you plan to use; or c) both. I'd say 'c' for me personally. I'd explain to Keller that you'd rather give them the business and give them a figure that would make you do the deal.
Right now the gap is $473. That's enough to make me go with 'the other guy' but at $273 I'd willingly go with the higher-priced dealer if I liked them better.
Of course, if Kia Towne is a more convenient location for service than Keller, that might tip the scales. What have you heard about Keller's Kia service department? I hope to be living in G.R. before our Sedona's warranty runs out. Those Detroit to GR round trips are piling on the miles - almost 6,000 since February.
Is Sedona available with the $1,000 rebate AND the 0% 24-month financing? I assumed it was one or the other.
Anyway, the long and short of it is this: They still claim that the IIHS results are not real world. They say they tested their vehicles and could not duplicate what happened. But, rather than fight a battle with IIHS, they have instituted a programing "fix" that will be available shortly.
I don't know about the rest of you, but that is all I ever wanted. Just a little more peace of mind that it won't happen if my wife gets in a minor fender bender.
The letter had a number to call regarding the fix, but I left it at work. I will post the number later.
Kia Towne was not open when we visited them, so I have only corresponded through email. I am comfortable with Keller. They say their service department is "award winning." (Aren't they all?) Very nice place, though. Keller is also a bit closer, as we are coming from the west. I'll heed your advice and see if Keller can come down any. They are willing to search for what I want. They have the EX with the options I want, but not the color I'd like.
Thanks for your thoughts!
I have not noticed any paint peeling on our Sedona, but since it's less than 5 months old I haven't expected to see any so I haven't looked very closely.
Has anyone had their Sedona 'reprogrammed' with this airbag reprogram fix?
Thanks!
Thanks.
The 2nd row buckets slide ahead and the seatbacks tilt forward/down leaving about 8 1/2 inches of access to the third row seat. This may be a little awkward for some but we don't mind it. And our kids don't complain. And yes, with the exception of a few minor problems, we are very happy with our EX.
Rear Cargo Light . marklj
My rear cargo light had the very same problem, per my post #1753. Kia replaced the light assembly under warranty.
I took a hit from a flying object last weekend on the interstate and it put a nice dent and paint divots in 2 places on the hood. The only good thing is that it missed the windshield. I hope the whole hood doesn't have to be repainted.
***One of my fog lights is burned out. Will this be replaced under warranty? I have 7000 miles.
Thanks...
Also, A seagull flew into my windshield going 75 on the edens. Hit the windshield and the crease of the rooftop. Did not break or dent. I had an emblem of the bird on the windshield and feathers stuck in the window framing. Pretty solid vehicle. Kia 1 Gulls 0
We may have gone over this some time ago, and I probably should let it go, but regarding low speed air bag deployments you recently said: " unlikely to cause harm to vehicle occupants even if it occurred."
While I do not have first hand experience, what I have read suggests otherwise. (For example, AAA changed its recommendation on driver hands positioning from 10 and 2 to 8 and 4 based upon an increasing number of limb and hand injuries resulting from the force of the airbag deployment.) Moreover, maybe we can agree that you don't want to find out whether injury is likely or unlikely, which I think is the point of being able to "get the fix."
Good price Sedona EX with ABS $20,200.
Looks like quite a bit, especially the air conditioner problems i related some months ago and i am still having.
When i catch up with reading the previous post, i got a lot to comment on. Keep up the good work guys
To those of you who do have the sunroof, have you had any problems with wind noise/leaking?
Thanks for the info!
Almost bought a Sienna BUT the KIA does look good.
Our local dealer here in Eastern Pa. Is offering
us an EX w/ leather, ABS, two-tone, and Homelink for $21,500. The price on the window sticker says
$23,355---But I know that can be misleading.
Is $21,500 a good price?
Thanks in Advance,
pete
We havn't had any rain for almost 3 months(north carolina), and its really dusty here and i noticed my filter was prematurely dirty, and my gas mileage started to drop, sure enough it appears to be the culprit, anyone seen a better price, let me know.
Anyone in the area of the country with those forest fires, has the soot affected your sedonas's yet, or what ever you drive.