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Anyone out there with any compelling benchmark deals to share?
900 plus for T.M.F which they called the Toyota Marketing Fund???
600 + for a hold back charge (lights, electric, etc) at the dealership
300+ Additional Charges
300+ Additional Charges
netting in 2100.00 in additional charges.
This is above and beyond the Delivery fee.
In addition the dealer said they would not get the vehicle in until May 8 which meant that the current 1500.00 rebate or 3.9% financing may not apply.
I was very frustrated to say the least.
Do these additional charges make sense? Should I pay anything other than..
cost of the vehicle - rebates
delivery charge
tax, title and license
????
help
email me at llyons@amedisys.com
Good Luck
I think a better price is coming!!! I am glad to hear so many love this vehicle.
Very happy with purchase, fast and easy dealership. :shades:
I am trying to purchase a 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4X2 (MSRP 43,500). The best quote I have received so far is $36,798 or $6,702 below MSRP ($40,887 out-the-door). Has anyone received better or worse quotes for a similar vehicle, just curious how low they will go. Follow up question, I noticed the ship and invoice date on one of the quotes was 10/16/06, does this mean that the dealer has had this car on their lot for 8 months? I find it hard to believe a Sequoia has been sitting on a lot for 8 months without being sold. Thanks for any input you folks have.
MSRP (incl. destination) 44,207
Edmunds Invoice 38,701
Edmunds TMV 40,361
Dealer and broker offer 39,500
Of course, the dealer wants $289 in dealer handling fees. Both are also offering the $1,500 incentive or 1.9/36, 2.4/48 or 3.9/60 in lieu of the incentive.
They both tell me that I'm getting invoice pricing. Should I push harder?
MSRP of 44,207
Offer price 39,444 (100 below invoice?)
Trade for '99 4Runner Limited w/ 97,100 miles 9,200
8.25% tax
Out-the-door-price: 32,739. Thats new - trade + tax.
No other fees or charges from the dealer.
Thoughts?
What do you think about looking elsewhere, or waiting? Will it be worth it? The reason I may not wait is we are trading in a 2005 Sienna XLE LTD and I think it's value will go down along with the price of the Sequioa if I wait for the next model year release in September.
So, we started down the road of a Sienna and a Tundra (so I could pull my '78 FJ40 AND the pop-up) but I did the calculation of the gas on the Tundra as my daily driver and that killed the idea. So, a big SUV was the solution, along with my current '98 Outback with 120k miles on it, which will last at least 50k more.
We considered the usual suspects: Durango, Yukon, Tahoe, Expedition, Armada, Sequoia. I like the fold-flat seats of some of the others, but in the end I just couldn't stomach buying a domestic and the Armada is plagued with reliability problems. So the Sequoia won.
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The MSRP was just over $47,000, and I got it for $39,180 plus tax and license which made totaled $43,000. I also got the extended warranty for 7 years for $1500, down from $2195 (not included in the price above). I know they have to 08s coming soon, but I don't need a bigger SUV with an even thirstier engine! Got it at Concord Toyota thru the Internet Dept.
tHIS IS 16.6% off of MSRP!! WOW. How much is this less than Invoice? Did I compute this correctly.
thanks !!!!!!!!!!! JTP
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The finance guy was not high pressure at all. Said he had to give us the opportunity on the warranty, lojack & other security crap. He told us that big SUVs and PU trucks are not selling well at all with the price of gas. I can buy a lot of gas for $10k. Probably enough for as long as we own the vehicle. I would have bought the Escalade. I think my wife is right. This is a more solid vehicle.
Since we are considering buying the Sequoia at the end of lease, we stopped by the Toyota dealer today to have the service department look at the plastic that is peeling off the rear bumper to see if it is covered under warranty. While we were waiting for the service manager, I walked onto the sales floor and ended up speaking to the general manager of the dealership about when the 2008 Sequoias are expected in. He said they wouldn't get them until Dec. or Jan. and they would either be an '08 or '09 model -- he wasn't sure but knew they would be a lot bigger.
I asked if he could get any 2007 Sequoias in yet since I really don't want a larger vehicle -- he said probably. Then I mentioned that I had a leased 2004 Seq. that is up in December. His eyes lit up and he said "let me take a look at it."
Then he said he'll look for a 2007 with the options that we want and that we might just be able to buy out the 2004 and then trade it to him for the 2007. Our buy-out price from the leasing company (not Toyota Financial) is $24,178. He said that way we would avoid the charges for the excess mileage, dings, and worn tires (the back tires are awful) and he said we also wouldn't pay sales tax on the '04. He seemed to be very excited about the Sequoia -- said they're hard to come by...not sure if this was a line.
We've never done this type of deal before. If it works out for us to buy the 2004 Seq., trade it towards a 2007 and end up with no money taken out of our bank account, no money down and roughly the same monthly lease payment that I currently have ($501), I'm inclined to think it's a fair deal. What am I missing and what should I look for to make sure we don't get taken?? Thanks again!
I emailed every dealer up to Nashua and down to RI, and as far west as Greenfield. I called about 10, and personally visited 5, ready to buy with checkbook in hand.
I bought at Acton Toyota; they had the least BS and the best price, wound up damn near at invoice! There was still “confusion” at what packages I wanted, and what the base price was, and at the end the slipped in the $600 doc fee and would not budge. Still $2k below anyone else’s best price. Also less than anyone was paying here at the time.
Was very aggressively courted by IRA, his chain had the most available, but they were very hesitant to deal over the phone or email. Just wanted you in the door. I gave them multiple opportunities, but they could not be bothered.
Copeland Toyota outright lied to me, but at least had the decency to admit it. I had a good price over the phone. I was on my way there to buy, and called to confirm price. They admitted they could not do it at that price, saving them having to deal with me exploding in the showroom (on a busy saturday).
Lexington Toyota insisted they would beat any offer, but in actuality refused to do so. Considering they had zero selection, you figured they would be more accommodating.
Nashua Toyota seems like a well run operation, but the salespeople really had no power to talk money. I was actually there 3 times, and they could not get their act together. Not liars, but just incompetent.
Norm Wagner: Free oil changes for life, but that’s about it. Not willing to deal.
Woburn Toyota: Do NOT buy anything from these people. Pathological Liars.
Westboro Toyota: Zero selection, and not willing to budge off of sticker.
Rt 44 Toyota: Very helpful, and offered to meet (but not beat) anyone’s price, but could not beat Acton Toyota.
Biggest scumbags: Bernardi Toyota, & Toyota of Wellesley. Bernardi sells “Certified Pre Owed” cars that are totally junk. The Toyota CPO program is supposedly for the cream of the crop, the cars are gone thru, and they warrantee them. Bernardi had a total POS used sequoia that was CPO, and they wanted me to pay for the problems the CPO program should have covered: A broken spoiler, bald tires, and bad brakes.
Toyota of Wellesley treated us like dirt. We wanted to test drive the NEW Seq we wanted, but it was “hard to get to” so we had to test drive their demo. We test drove a used 02 that had obvious transmission problems. They shrugged it off, and honestly expected us to go for the outrageous asking price.
Ernie Boch & Herb Chambers: it’s amazing how much these guys spend on advertising. You figured they would be begging to sell you a car. Calls & emails never returned. People tell me they offer the best deal only IF you finance from them, usually at 16% or more!
Sounds similar to the batch of dealers in San Diego. Only one would give me a solid price by email. I bought from that dealer without any hassle or added charges. I got my 07 4X4 limited at about $4000 under invoice. What a difference a year makes. I did not want the 08 with all the Tundra problems. I bought from Poway Toyota. ElCajon Toyota offered me the same price over the phone. I wanted him to email and he did not. So I bought from Poway. Escondido Toyota was a well run huge dealership. Not very aggressive on pricing. Several dealers did not respond to my Edmund's request for a price. Dealers run from the Good to Bad to Ugly!
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Just bought from Melody Toyota (San Francisco) Blue Steel Mica 07 Limited 4x4: JBL 6CD Changer w/10 Speakers, Real Spoiler, and Carpeted Floor Mats/Door Sill for $38,316. I've been researching for months trying to get these specific options and color. I searched So Cal extensively and was unable to find the Blue. I got many e-mails back in response to my requests, however, it appeared they never read the text portions which specifically stated to correspond via e-mail only (They always called!). Once I spoke with them on the phone, it seemed I knew more about the vehicle than they did. I found this extremely frustrating and irritating. (Soap Box) How is it that these people get away with selling expensive products and know nothing about them? Bottom line, Melody Toyota responded back with the above mentioned price and I jumped. In addition, I'm stationed in Japan and was able to complete the transaction from over here. Your spot on about the dealers run from the good to bad to ugly. Can't tell you how refreshing it was to cut to the chase and get the price I was looking for.
Great Forum! I've enjoyed everyone's comments.
My husband and I have been shopping for a replacement for our '04 Sequoia when it comes off lease in a month. We've been looking at the Acadia and also waiting for word on the '08 Sequoia.
3 weeks ago, we went into Tansky Toyota in Dublin, Ohio to ask about when the '08s will be in. No one seemed to know and the General Manager happened to be wandering by so I ended up talking to him. He said he wasn't sure when they would see them but he heard it was going to be huge. He said that he just leased an '07 Sequoia because he didn't think the new version would fit in his garage. I asked if he could find me an '07 in White. I also mentioned that we had an '04 Sequoia that we leased from his dealership 3 years ago. He was all excited that we were having the Service department look at it to see if a bumper issue was covered underwarranty (said that Toyota had deep pockets for warranty work) and he wanted to take a look at the '04 -- he acted like he wanted me to buy it out and then do a trade. (Didn't sound like a good deal to me so I was was skeptical about that).
Besides leasing the '04 Sequoia from Tansky Toyota, we also leased 2 Camrys from them prior to that. So this particular dealership had sold us 3 cars and had a loyal customer. We've owned Toyotas since 1994 and my parents have owned Toyotas since 1981.
Anyway, he seemed like a good guy, took my name and number and said he would call me when he located a white '07. Three weeks later, I haven't heard from him.
We're leasing an Acadia -- better gas mileage and better interior seating configuration.
Sorry, Toyota, between lousy customer service at the dealership level and making the new '08 too big when people are moving away from the gas guzzler SUVs, you've lost us for awhile.
Also, my husband is buying an Acura MDX. So for the first time in 13 years. we won't have a Toyota in the garage.
PS
The Internet manager at Poway Toyota is very good to deal with, if you are near San Diego.
I am a new member. My dealer is offering me the new 2007 Sequoia 4x2 SR5 5-Speed Automatic for $28,000 (including the current Toyota rebate of $4000 ) . This is a basic SR5 model. No other options included. This price does not include tax and fees.
It's almost at the end of the year and new model is coming out. Is this still a good price ? Please advice.
Thanks
Thanks,
This is what I have been offered. 33,995 (price includes 1500 rebate) Please tell me what you think.
SR5
alloy wheels
JBL
park pilot
leather (not factory)
bench seat
roof rack
On an SR5 a sticker of $48,386 came to a $42,843 sticker which they said i could buy the vehicle at that price.....
Also obviouldy the dealer is making money on the vehicle even selling it to me at invoice - does anyone know how much profit is built in for them?
Thanks for your help.
Also just learned my SR5 has bluetooth. Now that I see how it works, I love it.
You have to remind them of it. Be ready to walk out the door if they are not willing to get close to invoice. Better yet email all the dealers and tell them you want an email with their best price, no nonsense tolerated.
Or that gas is over $3 a gallon and NO ONE is buying gas guzzlers unless they can write it off . . .
If the average buyer of these types of vehicles drives 12,000 miles a year and gets 15mpg then the difference in fuel cost between $3/gal and $4/gal is $800 (12,000/15mpg X $1.00 = $800). An additional $66/month in fuel cost is really not a factor in purchasing these vehicles when you consider the cost of fuel for the boat towed by a Sequoia or the feed and vet bills for the horse towed by an Escalade.
What higher gas does is help people to make more prudent decisions about the vehicle they "really" need for their lifestyle. Those potential buyers that don't really need or want this type of vehicle may purchase a more modest size SUV, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the only buyers of "gas-guzzlers" are those that can "write it off". I know I'm purchasing a Platinum Sequoia and the tax consequences and fuel costs were non factors in my decision-making.
The fuel for luxury SUVs is hardly a consideration for the typical buyer of these vehicles. If a buyer is financially concerned about $800 higher annual fuel costs, then the buyer is probably not able to afford a $50,000-$75,000 luxury SUV and the insurance that goes with it.
If they're able to write the vehicle expense off, that's a bonus. If they aren't, it's not likely to be a factor in deciding whether or not to purchase the vehicle that best meets their lifestyle needs.
One thing the insurance on our 2007 Sequoia Limited 4WD, is $400 per year less than our 2005 Passat wagon. I believe it is less because it has a better safety rating by the insurance institute than most all of the sedans.