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you may not need the quattro but you may want the power.
i'd say you have to drive 'em.
if you're set on the 180hp. then that's a whole 'nother question. if you just want to go for a nice cruise i'd say you don't need the quattro. if you want decent handling i'd say you would want the quattro.
i have never driven a tt however, so take my advice with a grain of salt.
i do have quattro though. and while i certainly do not need quattro in l.a., it is nice.
After having seriously considered getting a roadster and extensively test driving numerous competitors, I concluded that the TT was a beautiful car, well made, but significantly lagging many others in the performance department. I tested against the Boxter, Boxter S, M-Roadster (former 240 hp), Z3 3.0 and S2000 among others. My subjective evaluation was that the TT was the slowest of the bunch and tied the Z3 for last in handling. In fairness, I did not test drive under adverse weather conditions, since it was going to be a second "fair weather" car for me anyway.
My "subjective" evaluations seem to be "objectively" confirmed by a quick check of Road and Track test results. I tend to use 0-100 figures as the best test of an engines strength, since 0-60 times can bundled pretty close together and only go through 1-2 gear shifts. According to R&T, the 0-100 numbers are: Boxter S - 13.5 seconds, S2000 - 14.2 seconds, M-Roadster - 14.2 seconds, Z3 3.0 - est. 16 seconds, Boxter - 16.9 seconds, TT Roadster(225) - 17.6 seconds, TT Coupe(180) - 21.8 seconds. Note: There were no figures for the Z3 3.0, but it feels marginally quicker than a 330ci, which is 16.3 seconds. For comparison, the Audi S4 is 14.5 seconds.
Clearly, the Audi TT is a fine car and an attractive cruising Roadster. A "performance" roadster it is NOT. The Quatro version is also several hundred pounds heavier than the Boxter S and Honda, making it feel much less nimble.
P.S. I got a great deal to upgrade my 540i 6-speed for an M5 that is arriving in less than 2 weeks, so, alas, I've passed on a roadster for now. Had I bought one, chances are 60% it would have been the S2000; 40% the Boxter S. Both of which handle extraordinarily well, with my slight subjective nod to the S2000. I strongly recommend to anyone considering a TT or any of its competitors to take the time to extensively test drive everything yourself before making a decision. I never would have expected the $33k S2000 to impress me nearly as much as a $53k Boxter S. There are a lot of different factors and personaly preferences that go into a roadster purchase and you can't always believe what you read.
I am 20 years old and a sophmore Mechanical Engineering student. Recently my mom has been looking to replace her 99 BMW Z3 2.5 roadster. She had her heart at first set on a New Thunderbird, but was put off by the fact that there is no manual tranny. So she and I went out at test drove the tt, boxter, and slk. After driving them she said her favorite was the tt, but that it was probly alot more than the boxster. Then I told her it was less and we decided that this was the car for her. She thought the boxter interior was like being in an escort. We later brought dad out to drive one, and the dealer only had one roadster on the lot. We had decided on a black exterior with the baseball int. We were shocked when we saw the white roadster with black top. We decided to get this instead. Its a 225 quattro roadster with everything except nav. and phone. We also decided not to get the baseball b/c the black looked so good with the white. I have to say this car is alot more fun to drive than the BMW was. But thats probly cause I got sick of the BMW. I love listening to the turbo, it sounds like the ones on semi-trucks.
Just thought I would share. The Z3 is a very good car, and the I-6 engine is sweet, but in all around styling and usefulness the tt wins hands down.
Look forward to future posts,
Jborden
Be thankful you are in Germany
Bruce
Glen
I'm wavering a bit because the dealer (who would like to see off the lot of course) has a silver/ebony roadster with a power top and the same packages that he's making a better offer on to move.
I really like the look of the coup in blue, and I'm not really a ragtop lover, but I'm considering it. I'll post the results by the end of the month.
Bruce
Glen
I got the price I wanted, as posted above. If anyone is in the San Jose, CA area I can highly recomend the sales experience at Stevens Creek Audi. Very professional.
Bruce
-thanks/Bill/Vegas
To me, the biggest difference between the M3 and any AMG product - C, SLK, E, CLK - is the tighter, more precise handling and availablity of a 6-speed manual. When I got the chance to drive a C32, I was initially infatuated with the power - it has a significant torque advantage over the M3 - but that infatuation quickly wore off and I soon missed rowing my own in the twisties. The C32/SLK32 have one of the best "auto manuals" on the market, but it just wasn't the same driving experience. As evidenced by my desision to get an S2000, I'd rather trade torque for the ability to row my own and wind out an engine to 7,500+ rpm if and when I need to.
As for handling, I really appreciate tight, crisp handling that feels responsive and not overly heavy. To that extent, even the M3 is a very slight step down from an S2000. But the C32 was a huge step down and my buddy who drove the SLK32 was equally unimpressed with it. The SLK is due for a complete redesign, so perhaps Mercedes can cure this, but as of late the AMG engineers seem more consumed by horsepower than handling.
So, either the M3 or SLK32 will amply cure your need for much more power. I like the way the M3 delivers it and I like the BMW handling heads and shoulders above the Mercedes. Even though the M3 is a coupe, it is more of a sports car in my book than the SLK32.
Good luck!
Bruce
Jay
180TT Coupe Fwd Tip ONLY
180TT Roadster Fwd Tip ONLY
225TT Coupe 6spd quattro
225TT Roadster 6spd quattro
This was stated by Audi of America at TT-East Saturday night at approximately 6:30pm EST at the Holiday Inn Sunspree in Asheville, NC.
Interesting.....
Bruce
1) We want to fit two small suitcases in the trunk of our 225 hp. TT convertible (which has a smaller trunk than the 180 hp.) Can anyone recommend specific kinds of luggage that fit nicely?
2) Has anyone got a good source for extra CD changer magazines? Or does anyone know the brand and part #? My dealer said they're made by Panasonic, but I can't figure this out for sure.
Thanks!
Can anyone provide me some good feedback on any good lease deals they received or have heard about for a 225 TT in FL. I am considering leasing one and wanted to know the best deal for one. Considering a 225 TT with leather and audio package, 17 wheels and probably 15000 a year.
Thank for your input !
B' regards,
i'm shopping for a used car, and the TT is one of my candidates. I have some reservations i hope you can clear up.
1) Having never owned a turbo car before, how do they hold up on short (10mile) commutes?
2) Does the car work as a trip car (200+mi)? how do you feel after a long trip?
thanks for your input.
k
Bruce
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