2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • eenyiebeenyieb Member Posts: 12
    all prices should include desination with all quotes via internet, be careful if the dealer attempts to add an additional 780 when you get there. May try to double dip on the destination.The acq fee is normal with all honda leases, sometimes, it's waived depending on the car and lease special, with Odyssey being new, prob not going to be waived for a while. let me know if you have any questions..
  • utc1utc1 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for your reply. I'll keep you posted if I hear anything but we are in the same boat waiting until perhaps the end of Nov to the end of December to purchase. The lowest quote I received was from Honda of Hollywood (Internet manager) at $1000 over invoice inc destination and they said they'd be "happy to sell" at that price if they had the car. Most people I spoke to had no idea when the Elites would be coming in but there best guess was in a couple of weeks...thanks again.
  • eenyiebeenyieb Member Posts: 12
    I have a contact at Don Jacobs Honda in Lexington ky that has over 6 years of experience. Can explain any questions or things that needs to be addressed with your research.
  • northnjhondanorthnjhonda Member Posts: 1
    I have lurked here for about a month and watched other's prices and experiences and thought I would share my experience this past week and try to help the next buyer.

    As others have, I emailed many dealerships for their internet price (I included a couple of places outside the metro area because they seemed to have a better inventory and, I thought, might perhaps be a littel more desperate - namely Sussex Honda). Out of the 12 dealership, 5 had the two colors I was looking for and also happened to have the lowest all-in price (car+destinartion + NJ tax + tire tax + MV + doc fees). On the Wednesday, before the weekend I was going to make the purchase I took the lowest costs from each of the 5 dealers and emailed them all back with that as an ask (I bcc'ed them all because I didn't know if some of the dealership were owned by the same entity and that might lesson competiton) - two dealerships were able to committ my ask in writing - Sussex and Garden State. The deal was $35,000 + $780 destination + NJ tax + tire tax + MV + $185 doc fee.

    With the new car price basically locked in, I then sent another email stating that I had a trade in and was looking for $x as a price (supported by autotrader.com, KBB, truecar.com, and edmunds values), and that the the first dealership that would GURANTEE my previous ask on the new car and $x for my trade-in would have my business. Not surprisingly most dealers could only give me a ballpark on my trade-in and wouldn't committ to anything.

    This Friday and Saturday morning I made the rounds to the 5 dealership to let them see the trade-in and to get their final price. Most came a $2,000 - $3,000 short of $x. I got a bunch of BS reasons why, but was difficult to fight seeing that all 5 were saying pretty much the same thing.

    Ends up I got the van for $35,000 + $780 destination + taxes + tire + MV + $185 doc fee.

    Just on a new car basis (not considering my specific trade-in value) the best dealers were Sussex (great to work with), Garden (didn't have too bad of an experience and their business model seems to be low mark-up with high volume), Route 23, and Paramus. Note: I had a weird experience at the Tenafly Honda - my salesperson basically challanged my purchase method (i.e. comparison shopping )as soon as I stepped in the door. The were about $1,200 higher on the Odyssey and about $2,000 short on the trade-in; not sure if they new they couldn't be competitive and were trying to convince me otherwise or if something else was going on.

    Ultimately for both the new and trade-in my best "weapon" was competition - be it actual or assumed. Showing them what truecar.com, KBB, autotrader.com had listed to try to build my case didn't seem to have much of an affect. BUT when I showed them other dealership's offer or started to leave because I knew I had a better offer they responded much better to that. I literally had a sales team of 3 chase after me to the parking lot when I politely told them their offer was not the best and that it made no sense to leave $500 "on the table" by not taking another deal and then getting up and leaving.

    Again, thanks to everyone that has shared - without this forum I would have gotten a much worse deal. And I hope my expereince helps the next person.
  • vmchrisvmchris Member Posts: 1
    My local dealer has offered 39545 and dealer 45 miles away has offered 37752 , is the prices really coming down, may be I shud wait for some more time.. ?
  • babsmillerbabsmiller Member Posts: 20
    Thanks for posting this. I have several e-mails out to dealerships in the LA area and so far, no one has notified me that they have the Elite. Looks like I'll be waiting a couple of months before buying.

    Care to share which dealerships have contacted you?
  • bwaseembwaseem Member Posts: 5
    no freebies - got the mud flaps for ~$110 installed. carpeted car mats come with the car.
  • bwaseembwaseem Member Posts: 5
    paul miller honda - they had 1 2010 touring left when I bought my car - it was the burgundy color.
  • nobonobo Member Posts: 305
    "Never heard of Black Friday"

    You are kidding us, right?

    Anyway, it is the Friday after the Thursday that Thanksgiving is celebrated here in the United States of America. It is when many stores have 'door buster' sales to start off the holiday shopping season.

    I am in agreement that prices for any leftover 2010 Odysseys are not going to get much lower. They might even increase a bit. There will be those that find the 2010 exterior styling more appealing and would rather have that vehicle vs a 2011.
  • kvn1kvn1 Member Posts: 52
    For those are already waiting 3 weeks until now for 2011, DO NOT buy in Oct, Honda will do a sale volume evaluation for Oct month and will realize these are not selling as they anticipated, they must lower the price first to boost volume, it would be stupid to sell MSRP in this economy. If these are selling like hotcake then did you see 2011 on the road recently?
    Wait for a few more weeks you will see price coming down. Plus, based on customers' feedback Honda now realizes that the design has some down-sides that drives away a number of buyers such as black mirror, spoilers, no inner armrest for second row, no touch-screen NAV, no roof-rack, no push to start button..... they will do some thing in the price to draw buyers back....wait for few weeks or months people if you don't need a Van now.
  • ddog9876ddog9876 Member Posts: 6
    Hi northnjhonda,

    Could you tell me who you worked with at Sussex and Garden State - I'm in the same boat - trying to locate a Touring edition.

    Thanks
  • bogohobogoho Member Posts: 24
    >I am in agreement that prices for any leftover 2010 Odysseys are not going to get much lower. They might even increase a bit. There will be those that find the 2010 exterior styling more appealing and would rather have that vehicle vs a 2011.

    I wonder how many months are left for them to sell the 2010 as a new vehicle. I searched about what dealers do with the left over new vehicles, and here's what I've found:

    http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1941732

    That's the down side for the unsold "new" vehicles for the dealers - being auction off at a significant loss.
  • bogohobogoho Member Posts: 24
    edited October 2010
    > Also, how to calculate OTD price .. this what I have gathered on top of invoice, not sure if we can negotiate on any fees here :
    Adv Fees - 350-500 approx
    Processing Fee : 470
    Tag : 122
    Tax - 3% in NC
    Doc Fee - 120 approx

    Basically, taxes and titles are non-negotiable as they are paid to the state. Anything else, you can treat them as padding for dealer's profit, negotiate down the price even more if they are padding on junk fees. Feel free to back out of the deal if you only find out about it in the financing room. From my recent experience, there's only a $160 doc fee charged, everything else is tax/title.

    In your list here: doc fee/adv fee/process fee are discretionary/fluff fees.
  • stephen16823stephen16823 Member Posts: 3
    I think I did pretty good, or at least I haven't seen anything much better here on the forum. $29717+tax. Including destination and doc fees.

    I'll report back when I actually take delivery of the vehicle later this week.
  • newpilot1newpilot1 Member Posts: 9
    I'll have to agree with the styling mis-cues on the 2011. While at some angles it looks nice, the side profile of a 2011 black Odyssey looks like a hurst. Roof rails should not have been left off from the factory and the unpainted mirrors and "spoiler" on a $37,000 plus vehicle are uncalled for. With that being said, I do like the interior and overall I like the Odyssey better than the Sienna. I will wait until November as I am seeing these stack up at dealers in NE Ohio.
  • ddog9876ddog9876 Member Posts: 6
    Hey everyone -

    I like outside of Philadelphia and I'm getting a consistent MSRP price of $41,535. Even the zag.com accepted dealer (Conicelli) renegged on the $39,990 price which was $1900 above invoice.

    This all happened today.

    Anyone getting the same thing or something better?
  • honda250rhonda250r Member Posts: 8
    If you are willing to take a drive, Bobby Rahl Honda, just outside of Harrisburg has some very good deals on the 2011 Odyssey. I emailed their internet department on a Touring Elite and they came back about $3500 under MSRP. I believe they are offering a similar deal on the Touring as well. You might want to check them out.
  • audreymaudreym Member Posts: 103
    I have been trying in the NW Philly area (Norristown, Pottstown, Reading, and Emmaus) and they are not budging much.

    Looking for a Touring Elite and there are none to be had. I am hoping November will open things up a bit.
  • ddog9876ddog9876 Member Posts: 6
    Thanks - just emailed them so we'll see what happens.
  • ddog9876ddog9876 Member Posts: 6
    Yeah - I've been trying in Bucks/Montco area - even into NJ.

    Same thing - all sticking with MSRP.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Nope, never heard of Black Friday although I do know the day after Thanksgiving is a HUGE day for the stores. I'm sure my wife will be there too.

    You are very correct in your thinking and I watched this happen every time a model changed. Even though the 2010 Odyssey is a much improved vehicle with over 50 changes, there will always be a few that will think Honda took a good thing and messed it up. Happens every time no matter how much nicer the new model is.

    Those people will realize that if they want a 2010 that they better act quickly. As they scurry from store to store trying to find the model and color they want, the stores know this and prices can and actually will increase.

    At this point there are probably very few left anywhere I would think.
  • kvn1kvn1 Member Posts: 52
    Do Not pay MSRP, dealers are already making 3k at invoice for new car, and make around 6k at MSRP. You should have put those extra dollars into charity work instead of giving to dealers....
  • clermontflclermontfl Member Posts: 108
    2010 MODELS ARE STILL OUT THERE, whoever says that inventory is low is WRONG, they are trying to pump up business for their buddies at the dealerships....typical 1970's Sleazy Salesmen..!! ;)
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    If you are referring to a dealer's holdback, it's been 2% for about the past three years.

    Then there is nasty little thing called overhead.

    Holdback doesn't fall to the bottom line as profit.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Name calling now are we?

    Reading stuff like this reminds me of the small percentage of customers I had that I despised. Makes me happy I decided to retire early so, thanks!

    Inventory will vary be parts of the country and by store. At least in my neck of the woods 2010 Odysseys are almost gone.

    Your results may vary...
  • hp2009hp2009 Member Posts: 65
    in arizona dealer are selling (with 499 package) 2010 exl with 499,destination for 29k
    this time ,price may come down ..

    good deal can be for 2010 if invoice minus 10%.......which comes for exl 28k......

    thanks
    hp
  • luvinlifeinflluvinlifeinfl Member Posts: 19
    Thanks for the advice; Within 12 hours of advertising it we have someone interested in buying at $3000 more than the dealership offered. Now to get the best cash price for an EX-L RES.
  • akki1akki1 Member Posts: 3
    Guys, I have been watching this thread for long, I may buy the vehicle tomorrow ... but as some said if you can wait it is great, prices are for sure coming down - I was tracking Black EXL RES and was looking for 35,500 out of the door in NC, it is roughly 500 over invoice with no Adv Fees but does include 450 processing. I got two different dealers confirmed that, per them Black is rare and selling hot so they were not willing to go down on price. That all is crap, whatever color you will say you want they will say rare quantity and selling hot. Do yourself a favor, drive 100 miles from your place and you could easily save hundreds if dollars, dealers in city are crap to deal with, I have Leith, Auto Park as big dealers in Cary, NC still not ready to come down from MSRP, what the heck, are people crazy to pay MSRP in this economy - it is not new model of Ferrari, after all it is Van !!! Edmunds has search on inventory which is close to what dealrs have so you can check online if they are bluffing. Some even called me and say pay 500 deposit and we are getting vehicle in few days, do not get on that trap as well !!

    Good luck friends, I hate Van's but this version has changed my perception in terms of looks & interior is well thought through, will be my first let us see how the experience will be, so far on theory and promo video it is nice !!
  • mikeintheocmikeintheoc Member Posts: 23
    Dear babsmiller,

    Here are the best deals for 2011 Touring elites over the past 2 weeks: 42500 from the internet manager at Riverside Honda. I rebuffed an offer for 41370 WITHOUT destination from Gardena. 42400 from Rock Honda in Fontana. 41306 Diamond Honda (never replied to me so he must have sold it). These were all the dealers' "only" touring elite.

    I usually try to deal only on email. That way I can print out the email to bring to the dealership after negotiating. Plus I want to talk to them on my terms...like when I want to.

    I really hate it when dealers email me that I need to call about prices...that's already a red flag. "Everyone does it", but I buy from those willing to be transparent about their prices.

    Hope this helps. Best of luck.
  • mikeintheocmikeintheoc Member Posts: 23
    Dear utc1,
    I posted a reply to babsmiller about some of the deals and where I was getting them. NOTE: All of these were the only model on the lot (at least that's what I was told).

    I got the same deal from Hollywood Honda.

    Can't wait to get the new car, just a matter of will power and edmunds.com!
  • eenyiebeenyieb Member Posts: 12
    great price on the 2011 Honda odyssey, where are you buying??
  • eenyiebeenyieb Member Posts: 12
    great job.... great price for the 2011 ex, where are you buying at?
  • 3under53under5 Member Posts: 15
    I was looking for an EX-L and Conicelli gave me the same story about not budging from MSRP, it was too bad because we spent a lot of time with out sales rep going through the car and really wanted to buy it from him. However, they seem to be the only ones sticking to that story. The other local dealers (including Piazza of Philadelphia) are giving at least $1,000 off MSRP. And due to the advice of this forum, I've gone a little farther away from the city and found prices close to invoice. I'm currently looking at Princeton and Harrisburg dealers, and hope to make a purchase by the 30th. Also, they don't seem to have any bogus doc fees or puffed up title fees. I'll post my deal asap.
  • audreymaudreym Member Posts: 103
    edited October 2010
    I have been emailing with several dealers within 100 miles of Pottstown / Reading PA. Clinton Honda (Clinton, NJ) called me back today taking me up on my offer for $1,000 over invoice.

    Since there are no Elites in Smoky Topaz in the area, it would have to be ordered. This is the first time someone was willing to budge from MSRP on a factory order.

    I was clear that I could not make the 90 min drive out there until at least next week to have my trade evaluated. I wonder what the prices will do locally as we roll into the 1st week of November.

    Does anyone have any experience with Clinton Honda or having a car ordered? How do you structure the deal since they won't have the invoice for the actual car? I assume you ask to see an invoice from any other Elite?

    Clearly there are a ton of details to work out, but I feel like it is a start. Thoughts?
  • heathernjheathernj Member Posts: 24
    Autosport Honda in Bridgewater, $400 over invoice for a Touring...great experience, worth the drive if you can't find anyone to come down in the Phili area.
  • sjthomassjthomas Member Posts: 61
    Hello honda250r,
    Honestly I don't believe these KBB prices anymore. Everyone who is buying including private party and dealers, always wants below KBB when you are selling to them. In fact, when you look for KBB pricing for a 2010 Honda Odyssey Touring for 10K miles, it is greater than what you get from a brand new of the leftover stock at any dealer. The KBB price, I think, is a starting point to negotiate but I have never seen anyone honoring that price. At least, there is some starting point for negotiation. Something is better than nothing.
  • audreymaudreym Member Posts: 103
    Conicelli was less that MSRP through zag.com - did you try going that route with them? I want to say they were $1K under MSRP.
  • loucapriloucapri Member Posts: 214
    anyone tried the Costco Program to see if it worth anything? From what I have read, it all depends on dealership.
  • a4000a4000 Member Posts: 9
    I got a quote for a 2011 Touring supposedly by giving the sales guy my Costco Card.

    $38,282
  • loucapriloucapri Member Posts: 214
    wow, that' near $1400 above invoice. May as well wait until the "NEW" thing to cool off. Even sell at invoice, dealer is making good money. I need a van now, but for few grands, I am willing to take a bus for a few months and give the saving to the family.
  • a4000a4000 Member Posts: 9
    that includes the 780 dest. charge, so really about 600 over invoice.
  • akki1akki1 Member Posts: 3
    Got the vehicle finally !! Price 35,500 is confirmed out of the door in NC and Virginia dealers for EX-L RES with NC Taxes .. (Btw, I got black the one I was looking for)
  • drivininstyledrivininstyle Member Posts: 14
    I was in your same boat, and finally found a GREAT deal for almost $3000 off sticker at Bobby Rahal near Harrisburg. Very easy experience. No inflated "doc" or licensing fees either!

    I posted this before, but I'm new here, and can't figure out the link...
    Here's my review of Bobby Rahal...and the detailed pricing.

    Wanted to share my FANTASTIC streamlined experience at Bobby Rahal in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania.

    They offer their own "Live Market Driven Pricing" on all their models. This is the SAME price for Internet, Phone or In Store. It's posted right on the car.

    Last week, I picked up a 2011 Honda Odyssey EX-L for Invoice + $320.00 Profit. (Discount off MSRP of $2925. on a BRAND NEW MODEL!) Also, they did NOT have any inflated "Doc" or "Licensing Fees"....or Dealer add-ons to speak of.) Sale Price= $32,304.44 + tax & tags ($170.65).

    My Lease was 36 months x 12K Miles a year= $398 + Usage tax 9%= $434.34 Total. (.00200 Money Factor & 64% Residual), Start up costs= $170.65 Fees + $434.34 First= $604.99 out of pocket.

    Breakdown of "Doc" & Licensing Fees:
    Tags (Transfer PA) were $170.65 ($123 Doc Fee, $22.50 Title, $6 Transfer, $5. Tire Tax, $14.15 Registration on-line).

    The dealership is very convenient to Maryland & Philly suburbs, and is drop-dead GORGEOUS, with a staff that actually CARES about what they are doing, and WANTS to treat the customer FAIRLY!

    I highly recommend Bobby Rahal & their great team. I negotiated everything over the phone, and had no surprises on delivery! I drove two hours to get there & it was worth it!
  • ramssaranramssaran Member Posts: 36
    edited October 2010
    All,
    I received an email quote from Frank Kent Honda of Fort Worth, TX. See the response below. Is this for real????????????????

    "If you want a 2011 Touring Elite, you will need to get on a waiting list that requires a $1000.00 deposit and there are no discounts at this time, but we do not charge over MSRP like some other dealers."
  • ramssaranramssaran Member Posts: 36
    I received a quote from a dealer here in texas for $44500 OTD with $500 add ins. Is this a good deal? So without the ad ins its $44000 OTD.
  • co_copco_cop Member Posts: 17
    Man, 44K its a lot of money. I would keep looking, I have read a lot of people here getting elites for cheaper than that. Good Luck.
  • 51cent51cent Member Posts: 1
    Got the 2011 EX-L with RES for just over $34k + TTL. No additional fees from the dealer. Over $2k off the original quote. Had to fight for it, but got it done. Great car for families. Good luck out there. The dealers want your business. Make them earn it.
  • kvn1kvn1 Member Posts: 52
    this is a lease deal, not a purchase deal, can't believe paying $600+ for 3 years and the car is not yours. I think if you bought the car you could have pay the same amount for 5 years and the car is yours
  • mikescmikesc Member Posts: 21
    I also had a Dallas area dealer tell me there's litte room to discount on Elites. I think they are way rare at this point. He did say more room to discount on the Tourings though. I am shooting for the $400 over invoice I have seen some here get outside of TX. I am just telling them that is my price and I will wait if I have to.
  • a4000a4000 Member Posts: 9
    I believe he said 434/month.
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