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Does anyone know which Jatco automatics are being used in the Mazda6?
I'm young (23) and have good credit. The dealer told me that the best interest rate he could give me is 6 or 7% and he said that Mazda isn't currently offering 0% financing on the 6, and no matter what car i try to buy i couldn't do any better than 6 or 7%. His offer was $1000 above invoice, and $1000 below msrp (this is in san diego, ca).
So I guess I have two questions. First, can anyone tell me if the 7% is really the best I can do on this car? And second, is $1000 over invoice about what people are paying or are there better deals to be found?
thanks for any advice.
In the Feb issue of motor trend, they got a 6s with Manual to hit 0-60 in 6.67 seconds. The Jan issue of Car And Driver recorded a time of 6.8 seconds. Edmunds has the 6s with automatic hitting 0-60 in 8.0 seconds.
toolman02,
What dealership in San Diego did you go to? Check out John Hine Mazda, I've done two test-drives there and I'm going to make my purchase from them. They are a bottom line no haggle dealer offering ~$1,000 off of MSRP for a fully loaded 6i and ~$1,500 off of MSRP for a fully loaded 6s. I told the sales guy that I had excellent credit (score of about 750) and he gave me a verbal quote of about 4.5-5.0% interest rate. Unfortunately, I did not clarify with him if this is for a 3-year or 5-year loan, I’m guessing it’s 3 year. Hope this info helps, good luck on your purchase.
John Hine is the dealership I went to. My credit score is 722, and the 6-7% is what he quoted me on a 60 month loan. This is my first car to finance, so I guess 6-7% is about as good as I am going to do.
I checked my bank's website, (Wells Fargo), and they show 5.14% on a 60 month lease, so it might be possible to get that.
I've looked at a couple pages of posts here, but obviously haven't the time to go back thru all 5,000+ posts to see what people are saying about this car. Anyone have anything - good or bad - to say about it? My current car is a 4-cylinder, so I'd probably stay with a 4-cyl. I hear it's pretty peppy, so it's probably just fine. After all, I'm not 17 and a boy trying impress the chicks so having a super-fast car doesn't matter to me. Plus the 4 is a bit less expensive and a bit more fuel-efficient.
So....what's the consensus?
To other posters:
On another note, if you have been looking at the car shows web sites, do you notice that dark grey metallic is being shown on many of the new cars? Similar to Mazda6's Steel Grey, some a lighter shade. Is this the next big color after all the silver cars?
fowler3
Is there a site where I can see other Mazda accessories that I could add to my car either dealier-installed or self-installed, that would go on this car?
I haven't seen a white one yet. So far the color I would get is the Steel Gray. But I'm partial to white - my '91 Mazda is white, and so was my first car, a '79 Capri. So 2 of my 3 vehicles have been white - what does that tell you? I'd like to see a white one with the black leather as I've "customized" it on the website, in person.
I haven't had a chnace to read either of them yet, but here's what they say...
First, I believe is from Car and Driver between the Mazda 6i, the Nissan Altima 2.5 and the VW Jetta GLI.
The Mazda6 won this comparison and the magazine seems to really have trashed the Altima for poor quality.
The second was in Car and Driver (I think) and included the Accord, 6, Camry, Altima and one other.
Accord came first and the Mazda6 second.
Good news on both accounts.
Anyone who has additional info or (especially) links to these comparisons will hopefully post more.
From what I have heard, this is a dealer voluntary program (they don't have to participate if they don't want to), so if you can get this deal it's a very good one.
Hope you get a good deal on your 6.
Now I am not trying to say that Mazda's have bad quality or anything to that affect but I am a little concerned about the Mazda quality. In the 2001 JD Power Assoc. Inital Car Quality report, Mazda's overall car problems ranked higher then the industrial average well behind Honda and Toyota..... I very much like the looks, comments, features, price and value of the 6. I am going to go test drive one after work actually (hopefulyl a v6 MT will be in stock)....but going from a Honda to a Mazda does cause some concerns for me.
The other option I am possible pursuing is a 2001 Lexus IS 300 for around $26k. It is a used car but has many of the handling, power, styling, etc as the Mazda6 but with the Lexus reliablity (and service from dealers that go with it).
The only concerns I do have are because the 6 is a totally new MODEL and they always say to wait a couple years so they can work the kinks out of the new design. I have no qualms about it being a Mazda, just that it has no history behind this particular model. BUT I DON'T WANNA WAIT!
* Blown head gasket TWICE!!!
* Blown cylinder head
* Replaced radiator
* Replaced thermostat
* Shifting from 1-2 felt like the clutch was engaged all the way on as the car ocasinally lost power for 1 second or less and almost redlined while not accelerating at all - imagine the thrill when making a left turn and this happens - it was an auto tranny
* A/C died in the spring of 2001 - it really was time to replace the car after all these hassles.
So I got a 2001 PRO ES - replaced the head unit as it didn't eject a CD in the first week and the spoiler's led about 2 mths late as 3 lights burned out.
Other than that the car has 49.905kms - as of this morning. It was bought July 2001. The more I drive it the better it accelerates and the smoother it is.
I have NO REGRETS with this Mazda and this is why I will ALWAYS consider Mazda before Honda. I understand your Accord has been good to you, but I would not hesitate signing for a 6HB (if I had the $ for it - at the moment I still have 2.5 yrs left to go until the PRO is paid-off).
I bet the 6 is more fun to drive than the Accord and should not give you any problems.
Dinu
A VERY satisfied Mazda driver - I'm not the owner
PLEASE STOP BOARD SURFING GO to the forum that discusses your car and stay there. We need substantive discussions about this car that help people in some way. I think that was the general purpose of this forum. To the Moderators of Edmunds,
This is a very useful resource that Edmunds provides. I only hope that the forums get cleaned up a bit. It's filled with people who are either tired of surfing porn sites or people with no life and love arguing about nothing.
Black Mazada6 s 5 speed MT
Bose, Sport Package, Sport grille.
I think it is safe to say that most of the people who post here regularly are indeed interested in the Mazda6, there may be a few random posters that come in here and just post inaccurate info about the car, but a lot of us post our own concerns about the Mazda6 and why we have not just gone out and bought one already. So to some of you die-hard Mazda6 fans, it may sound like we're just here to rip on the car, but we're really interested in it and want to learn more about it through discussion.
So instead of just telling us to leave, how about addressing our concerns regarding the car, and convince us why it is such a good car relative to its competitors. And some original info other than its good looks and sporty handling would be nice too. Basically info that is fresh from the usual car enthusiast magazine review.
we should meet up some time so I can check it out!
woohoo! first confirmed 6 owner in our area!
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/public/200212/1225e.html
I bought my car there too, from Johnny Holiday- tell me that's not a show name! Good experience, highly recommended.
oops stretch, forgot you're also in my area.
hey, 2's a crowd, maybe you guys should start up the very first Mazda6 car meet! (you can call it MA6P! lol!)
6i 4-cyl. with Leather/Comfort Package, Premium Package, Bose Package, Moonroof, Sport Package, ALB/Traction Control, and Side Air Bag/Air Curtains....
MSRP $24,825 (off their website)
Discounted: $22,294
Savings of $2,531 off MSRP.
IF I decided to NOT get the Leather/Comfort Package I would save a bit more. Not sure if I want that as I have a dog whose toenails I'm concerned about punching thru the leather. So it might be another $700 or so cheaper yet, without the leather.
Whadaya think? Of couse, this is NOT including plate transfer ($8), title ($12) and sales tax - 6 freakin' percent ($1,338). Just the price of the actual car before all that other garbage.
Would you care to share how much you paid, for the benefit of those in the area (like me!) considering this car in the near/distant future.
And yes - would be cool to have a Mazda 6 meet, or you guys can come pile on at the next Mazda Protege Picnic (there've been 4 already, in 2 years) in the area.
And keep posting your experiences with the car, especially as it starts to feel and get run in!
Anyway - they did a comparison (in Germany) of base modes of 3 cars - (placed in winning order - winner first, for your convenience!)
- Mazda 6 1.8l base 5-speed (smallest engine of the 4)
- VW Passat 2.0L 5-speed (Jetta engine?)
- Opel Vectra - 4 cylinder (2.2+ litre?) much touted Ecotec engine.
In their opinion and tests the Mazda trumped them all in acceleration, handling, feel, braking, gas mileage and interior ergonomics!) and the Passat was only ranked higher (a little) in interior materials' quality.
They love how the engine (is this the same 1.8 from the 99-00 Pro ES? or just a detuned, smaller bore version of the same family of brand-new 4-cylinder engines?) kept on pulling, and how tautly the car handled (slalom and emergency maneouvres were won by pretty large margins). They were impressed by the trunk size (largest of the 3, by a little bit) and gas mileage (Mazda 9.low, Opel 9.high, VW 10.mids litres/100km). So much for GM's much touted Ecotec - it lost on power and gas mileage to this Mazda 4-cylinder.
They thrashed the Opel's interior and quality, and (almost) abused the Passat's awful road feel, steering and braking. Say what?
They also mentioned the Mazda 6 could be had in HB and Wagon forms (latter only with the larger 2.3l engine?) and that was yet another plus in the Mazda 6 column.
This is a German TV show on DW channel, dubbed into English and rebroadcast on some obscure (public?) channel in the Adelphia cable area. Don't know if it'll repeat, but I will keep an eye out.
If anyone's interested - I'll paraphrase their summaries of the 3 cars when I get a chance - I only flitted through the show in a hurry last night.
EDIT: The Mazda 6 was also easily the cheapest of the three, with the VW Passat being the most expensive by a substantial percentage. They mentioned how "bang for buck" was usually a compromise with weighted cost taken into account, but how this car was genuinely the cheapest and the best of the 3
Good deal?
The 2.3L is the only one to feature S-VT (Sequinteal Valve Timing).
vadp: Sequin teal: is that a new Mazda 6 color?
Anyone have any suggestions
haven't heard from you for eternities, too busy driving the 6 around?
Dear Mazda People:
I’m writing because there doesn’t seem to be an e-mail link from mazdausa.com.
Opinions: I have been test-driving new cars for about 18 months now. Audi A-4; Acura RSX/TL/CL; Nissan Altima; Cadillac CTS; Infinity G-35. I just did a short test drive of your Mazda 6. You have a winner.
The early articles in Car&Driver and AutoWeek magazines tested the car in Italy. The articles/pictures show a Mazda 6 with the 17” wheels and no spoiler/ground effects add-ons. After seeing Mazda 6 cars at the Washington Auto Show, the car looks better to me “clean.” But the 17” wheels are “a must.”
Your Sport Package 1SE (on Edmunds.com) Includes 17" alloy wheels, 215/50 R17 V-rated tires, clear-lens halogen fog lights, dual exhaust with oval shaped bright tips, sculpted front air dam and rear apron, side sill extensions, rear spoiler with integrated brake light, black interior trim, Optitron gauges with red illumination, sport type instrument panel inserts and titanium colored power window switch panels.
So to get the wheels and the other “good stuff” in 1SE, we have to get the “sculpted front air dam and rear apron, side sill extensions, rear spoiler with integrated brake light.”
Recommendation: Delete the “sculpted front air dam and rear apron, side sill extensions, rear spoiler with integrated brake light.” from the Sport Package. Make that stuff a separate option. Since the Mazda 6 is assembled in the USA, this should be doable, right?
The cars for NA are coming from the same plant. I don't know why I can't get a similar setup down here in the US, but can in Canada.
Toyota installs "optional" ground effects on every Matrix XR model. Presumably they think that spoilers and ground effects is EVERY young person's idea of cool/sporty. Or maybe if the customer is a dork they think that spoilers on the car will make him/her cool.
It must be because Canadians have such refined tastes
Why? It grows on you.
The MZ6 in that color looks more luxurious, makes a stronger statement, it's formal without being black, yet it looks like an European Autobhan express.
I've come to the conclusion that today's buyers should wear colors (sport clothes and jackets, etc.) and drive a car that is a perfect background color for them; the way a man in a tux is the counterpoint to a lady in bright, formal clothing. The Steel Grey MZ6 lets you arrive in style, what you wear determines whether it ends at the curb or continues inside.
It seems to be popular with young and older alike. If you like pin stripes, and want to be able to find your's in parking lots, put a red stripe on the Grey -- very sporty, too. A dealer may argue with that, ignore him, it goes with the taillamps and the instrument lighting at night. Wear a red zipper jacket! People will see the connection -- style.
The taillamps are what other drivers are going to see when you hit the road in your 6s!
fowler3
So the only time some of the cars in the comparison test would be seeing the 6s's taillamps is if they are stuck in traffic behind it
(I hope everyone will appreciate the good-natured intent of this post)
http://www.d-k-automatics.freeserve.co.uk/japanese.htm
http://www.bevenyoung.com.au/ketv1.htm
But it doesn't matter anymore. I just remembered that the Mazda6 V6 uses a 5-speed auto. The GF4A-EL is 4-speed. So they can't be the same.