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P.S.: A friendly piece of advice, get the sports grille it is so coooool!
In order to get the pricing, you have to have the family member or friend fill out an application for the program, and then they will get a PIN number for you. You just have to take the PIN number to your dealer and they should be able to give you the S-plan price.
Mike
mpiatech is correct, between the two of us hope this explains it.
You can also join the Experimental Aircraft Association, online ($40 a year), and get a PIN number through the EAA. Ford sponsors EAA.
http://www.eaa.org
After joining you have to wait 12-months before using the S-plan. No waiting period if you qualify under the others mentioned above.(It use to be immediate but many took advantage of the EAA connection.) There is also a $500 graduate discount, if you graduated university in the past 2-years. They can be combined.
The S-Plan: The dealer sells a car at 1.5% over "invoice". Buyer has to accept the dealer's trade allowence for his car, or buys straight -- no trade. Be aware that "invoice" is not dealer net, it is a reference point. There is still Hold Back and other incentives for dealers in "invoice".
mazdarx8: You can buy fog lights for any Mazda6. They go in the end openings on the lower part of the bumpercap, price $250. With the Sport Package the fog lights go between the headlights where the dark grey lens is.
HID headlights are not available for MZ6's, they require a converter or transformer Mazda did not design the light units to accept. Mazda does not recommend Hi-intesity bulbs.
CD-R: Some CD-Rs would not play in Protegé's CD players, usually due to labeling throwing them off balance. I think it also had to do with how tight the tracks were. Color may also play a part.
My note: I think it is really dumb that you can not get the Bose audio if you order ABS, and you can not get ABS if you order a Moonroof. All three should be standalone options.
fowler3
I have carried my road bike in this way over many years in various sedans, including a '96 Accord and a '91 Protege.
M6owneroneday: For that $635 (retail) Bose system you get the 4 full range speakers, 2 tweeters, amplified subwoof, 200 watt sound system, in-dash 6 disc CD changer. If you have an e-mail address I can send you photos of the Bose speaker system from my 6s.
fowler3: Where did you read/hear that Mazda doesn't recommend HID bulbs? But I will contact Mazda customer tech service to verify. I read that the Euro M6 come standard with HID and use the same projector light beam housing except with the HID Xenon setup vs halogen. I think that the RX-8 uses the common projector beam unit from the M6 it will come with HID. HIDs consumes less power (35W vs 55W) but still generates a higher output due to the non-filament arc xenon gas flled bulbs vs filament halogen gas bulbs. The aftermarket plug & play HIDs conversion kits comes complete with the Xenon bulbs, wire harness and ballast.
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bluong 1: 626to6 on post #8611 about the Mazda Speed Yellow, that's the Mazda trademark name for their Yellow color, not the MazdaSpeed6 that's coming out for sale later.
M6owneroneday: After market GPS are a lot better and some may fit in the storage box (Nav location for Euro6's) on top of the dash with some cutouts in the storage shelf. vocus to: With the 6's low center of gravity and its inherent stability (Believe me, it has been very stable for me through many situations so far) it doesn't need DSC. It has traction control which is good enough. High CG vehicles and many rear wheel drive vehicles need it, especially during bad road conditions due to the weather. For HID, plug and play aftermarket conversion kits are available for around $500.
I remember about 2 years ago when I was shopping for the Tribute, instead of offering the cash back incentive (back then it was only $300 dollars) you could actually get a Palm M100 from Mazda instead of cash back.
I'd like to be in the same boat as you, but then again you own the car! Those of us who can only drool at pictures will never know until we're sitting in the driver's seat. Nevertheless, it's good to know that the Mazda6 will not be as ubiquitous as all those Camcords (for some time), although I would like to see Mazda at least come within an arm's reach of their sales goals.
Still hunting for my next close encounter of the 6th kind... Sorry for all the cliches...
That isn't a weird request at all. I've stuck my road bike in the trunk of my Stratus and done the same with my mountain. No problems after taking the front wheel off.
But a better solution would be to get the bolt-on trailer hitch that's available and get something like a SportWorks or Hollywood rack.
If you're pulling the bike in and out a lot, sooner or later the car will pay the price. This modest investment (under $250 all told, depending on the rack you choose)prevents that.
And I burn mine at 32x.
Works great on my Pro ES cd player.
It has never skipped due to road irregularities.
Anytime my CD skips(actually it keeps spinning 'cause it cannot find the tracks), it has been due to smudge marks....i simply wipe it off and away it goes!!!
All orders must be in before 3/18 for may production june delivery.
I4 auto 45%
I4 stick 10%
V6 auto 40%
V6 stick 5%
sport pkg 30% (both models)
ABS/TCS I4 55%
audio pkg 49%
cold/leather 44%
moonroof 52%
SAB/SAC 35%
16'' alloys 34%
In any event, I still like my i4 manual
maltb: Sorry to hear that the dealer tech is not willing to replace the unit. Kinda surprised since most manufacturers would replace it to keep up good customer relations. Tried emailing mazdausa about it? Maybe they might see it differently. If they are trying to get more brand loyalty I would think they would fix something this simple.
fowler3
fowler3
cold/leather 44%
moonroof 52%
Right now, you need to get leather in order to get the moonroof...since these numbers say that there are more cars with a moonroof than there are with leather, some of the cars with a moonroof must either come with cloth, or no seats at all. :-)
Kind of a shame, since I would really like to have a moonroof, but the order's already out.
Mike
I think it's supposed to help you maintain traction and prevent spinning out of control by selectively tapping the brake on one or more wheels.
fowler3: HID are offered on some euro versions of the M6. Strange mazdausa would tell you, that it can't be used. Probably, the currently electrical setup is incompatible but they do have them in Euro and Japan I think.
We went to the next dealer at our "friends" fitzmall.com. The sales guy this time said there was no way to get a 6S 5spd without ordering. I refuse to pay extra for a car, just because of limited availability. Save thousands by waiting. Anyway this time I wanted my Dad to get behind the wheel. He's a no holds barred kind of guy that makes plenty of money and can afford to do dumba$$ things like what about to recount.
We get into this blehck! white stripped 6S 5Spd, nothing in it. Including no gas so we have to run to the gas station where my Dad promptly jumps out and starts washing all the windows. I knew this was a bad thing. He liked the car, it rides like a dream and is very very quiet as you all know. He washed all the windows and hopped back in. The sales guy, his 4th day on the job, gets back in from the pump and asks so where do you want to go. My Dad says, highway. So we hop in and head to 270. It's at about 6:30 or so and there's plenty of traffic even going south towards DC. He does a little maneuvering and asks, shall we see what this baby can do? Guns the hell out of it to 100mph in 4th but once he pops it into 5th our power goes to nothing. We were going up hill a bit so no big surprise. But on our rear is a new V8 mustang. We move over as he blasts past us. We get off turn around and head back north, my Dad with a little grin on his face though wishing for more horses. On our way back we see two cops parked on the opposite side of the highway. That was a bit close. Sales guy didn't know what to say about anything. Tried to get us to order one but not a chance. My Dad is getting his Volvo S60R with 300 horses.
So we move down the block to the Subaru dealership. I wanted him to try out a WRX. old Sales fogey was decent. The car will sell itself. Here are the keys. Try to keep the added mileage under 25 miles. It had 17 on it as it is. No warning about 4K RPM and break-in. Sales guy calls it the rocket car, old fogey. I warned my Dad that it'll jump if you get RPM's up. Pulls to the exit from the lot. Guns it, tires screaching but the turbo barely kicked in. Dad says not much acceleration down low. 2L engine I say. We get through a stoplight and he floors it. Turbo kicks in and whips us back in the seats. I had a huge grin on my face from that. He was speechless. Definitely not buying that one after his test drive. Though At 1250 below invoice, available everywhere. Definitely not the same league as the 6 in refinement but fun as hell. Still deciding.
Thanks.
However, when I tried to build a 6s, with Leather, Comfort pkg and a few other goodies, on the website, it would not allow me to choose that option at all. I also couldn't select the Bose option without also choosing a moonroof. That's not a big deal, because I could live without both of those, but I really want the SAB/SAC option. So what is the deal with this? Is there a plan to offer the SAB/SAC as an individual option in the future? Or will it remain another screwy option arrangment for the Mazda 6? I hope not, because that would be a shame.
Edit: On a whim, I tried to build my 6s again, but without the Leather option this time. I was allowed to add the SAB/SAC option, but not if I wanted the Bose package. I also noticed that the Sport Package option, which was not available with my first configuration with the Leather and Comfort packages, was now available with the cloth. Maybe because I had selected the Gray leather and the Sport package includes only black upholstery. But my second try included Gray cloth so now I'm just confused. I understand now what everyone was complaining about. Right now, it looks like the only way I can get the SAB/SAC safety features with the 6s is if I give up the Leather and Comfort packages. I can do that because I'd rather have the safety items more than the luxury features, but I'd really like to have both if I can. I thought Toyota had some strange combinations, but this is much worse. I guess I'll have to wait and see. It's a good thing that I'm not planning to buy right now. Any thoughts?
and yes, only 1 sunglass holder 'rattle' sounds like very good quality control on Mazda's part for a 1st-year car...
I was surprised because I had thought/hoped that the residuals for the 6 would be a bit higher, as it's a new model which has been highly acclaimed and praised by the automotive press, as well as many consumers. Since it really is a different car from the 626 and the Millenia that it replaces, its value should not be based solely on their past values IMHO.
Or maybe, because the 6 is brand new, there's nothing else to base it on, so it's value is lowered based on the history of its predecessors. Perhaps that may change as it establishes itself in the marketplace and creates its own track record.
I have read that Mazdas have traditionally had much lower resale value than Toyota or Honda. I wonder why is that? When did that trend start? Did it start once they became affiliated with Ford? Or even before that? Since Mazdas have also been reliable cars for the most part, it doesn't make sense that their value would decrease so much more rapidly. For example, I believe that VWs have less reliability overall, compared to most Mazda products, yet they seem to have greater resale value. Is it just image? What gives?
How do they establish a car's resale value anyway? It seems like reliability and durability should be part of the equation. That would be the most important piece that makes an older car more valuable to me. But that's just my priorities.
Resale value is important to me, but not crucial. If I decide to buy a 6, I plan to keep it for a long time and the resale value issue won't be as big of an issue to me. But I just wonder why this is so? I knew that this would be a good place to get some theories on the subject.
1) Premium Package (Alarm, Power Seat, etc.)
2) Premium Sport Package (Premium + Sport)
3) Sound Package (Bose)
4) Luxury Package (Comfort/Leather/Moonroof)
5) Safety Package (SAB/SAC/TCS/ABS)
or something along those lines, since I think this is close to how they actually build them. Why show the user an individual moonroof option if they aren't available?
(p.s. i'm not sure if what i dubbed the safety package is actually seperate from the rest.)
Anybody know what type of window cleaner is safe to use on the inside rear window so as to not damage the defogger or radio antenna. I don't wanna hurt my baby in any way. Is Windex okay? and yes I am Greek BTW.
I think the only way you can currently get the ABS/SCA option is if you have the Sport Package selected. I've tried to build with Beige Leather or Cloth (with Redfire color), and they are completely grayed out and unavailable. But if I switched my interior to Black for the Sport package, then I could get the safety features.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....Safety features should be either standard on the car, or available not matter WHAT you want - a plain-jane base model or one decked out with all the bells & whistles. Appearance options are one thing, but safety is another.
I hope Mazda was truthful with me...we'll see come April.
With Beige Cloth:
Can get ABS/TCS standalone, or ABS/TCS/SAB/SAC.
With Black Cloth or Black Leather:
Can get ABS/TCS/SAB/SAC.
With Beige Leather:
Neither ABS/TCS or SAB/SAC are valid choices!
What's going on? People with beige leather can't have the safety stuff? And why can the base model get ABS/TCS by itself?
I'm not sure the quality of the car has much to do with resale. Mazda's have traditionally been pretty well put together yet they have also had pretty ordinary resale value. While it would be nice to believe the Mazda6 resale value will hold up better than Mazda's of the past, it would be foolish to count on it. The market can be pretty fickle.
I've played with the depreciation numbers for a while and figure the Mazda will probably cost me between $300 to $700 more than an Accord per year in depreciation. That isn't enough to prevent me from buying the Mazda6 because I really like driving it.
If money was really tight or I was planning on changing cars often it would be a different story.
If the Mazda6 doesn't depreciate like Mazda's of the past it'll be great, but it isn't something that we can count on.
It isn't just the folks that bought Mazda6's early. Every new model that come out will be at MSRP at first. It is the price you pay for having a new model and being "first on the block".
To their credit, my Honda dealer was the only one in the area who didn't want over MSRP when the new Accord hit the lot last fall. However, they did get full MSRP. Two months later you could get one well below list.
It is really expensive when you get to the high-demand/low-volume new cars. The "first on the block" folks who bought PT Cruisers payed a pretty high price for the few months of exclusivity. Same as the folks who had to be first to have the new Thunderbird or the new Beatle.
I call it "the stupid tax".
Like u rightly pointed out VW has poor reliability record than the illfamed Mazda 626, yet????
This may no longer be the case, but then read my earlier post again
and how do the buyers determine how much a car is worth to them? god knows, too many 'intangible' factors IN ADDITION to reliability records are involved *shrug*
So its a double edged sword...nobody wants to pay MSRP but the more people who do and the less rebates there are the higher the resale values go....The honda Oddy minivan is a classic example of this.
So anyone on here asking for a rebate or low interest rates is only hurting the the resale value of the car.
If it turns out this new-generation Accord has a lot of teething problems, its actual resale value for the 2003 year may be much lower than is currently listed.
If the 6 takes off as a very popular car, and remains reliable, its resale value may end much higher than the current resale, which is based off the unexciting and problematic Mazda 626.
Not to mention that resale values are only guidelines anyway. In the end, what you get from a car depends very much on who's looking to buy when you decide to sell. (If you're doing a private sale. If you're trading, you're going to get less than you could no matter what you do.)
And "Mazda" doesn't have low resale values, just specific models. Check the prices people get for Miatas sometime. A 2000 Mazda 626 may only be worth $10 grand, but a 2000 Miata that cost the same as that 626 leaving the dealer can garner $14 grand or more.
Buy the car you want. Why get something you're not crazy about on the *possibility* of making an extra $1,000 or $2,000 5 years from now? Is it really worth $200 a year to drive around in a car you're less than excited about, considering the hundreds of hours you'll likely spend in your car over the course of a year?
In fact, if you're that money conscious, you shouldn't even be buying a new car. You should be getting a late-model used car that's still covered by factory warranty.
Me, I'll take my 6s. And I'll deal with what it's worth when I try to sell it when 2013 rolls around. :-)
And in Europe, where the cars have been out much longer, the reports are also very good.
Looks like they put in some Miata reliability along with the Zoom-Zoom. :-)
I did have the Check Engine on my 6s -- dealer fixed it in 20 minutes. Otherwise, absolutely zero complaints. A tight, fun car.
To any Accord owners or soon to be, no problems with my 6 and I'm extremely happy with it!