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Keep in mind, I haven't seen the invoice yet and verified his numbers, but here's how it's looking based on what he is telling me is the MSRP and invoice:
MSRP 36540 (online says 36065)
Inovice 33375 (online says 33781)
Invoice-1000=cap 32375
Residual % 49.00%
Residual 17904.6
Depreciation 14470.4
# of months 36
Interest rate 2.592%
Money Factor 0.00108
Monthly Deprectiation
Charge 401.96
Monthly Finance
Charge 54.30
SubTotal 456.26
Sales Tax % 5.00%
Sales Tax per month 22.81
Total per month 479.07
Due at signing 479.07 + 42 tag fee = $521.07
(no money down)
Note, these are from my number crunching, not the dealer, so things will probably change when I go in tomorrow (they always try).
Any thoughts on what kind of deal this is if I get something close to the above? I hate leaving $2000 on the table.
Good luck in your negotiations, and let us know how it goes. I'm particularly interested to see what other kinds of "fees" the dealer decides to throw in there.
1)the alarm to Beep when armed/disarmed,
2)Doors to Lock/Unlock Automatically,
3)The ability to have the fog lights come on automatically.
Can anyone tell me if any of these codes have been re programmed on there 2003 Saab 9-3.
Also has anyone noticed a excessive wear in their front tires? I have noticed this clunking noise coming from the front, which the dealership can't pin point, and now with only 4500 miles the tires look like they have about 20K. Any help is always appreciated.
Here's what I got: Steel grey (love it) w/ grey interior, launch package, touring package (love the auto climate control) and the sport package. I took the many warnings throughout this discussion site to heart and got the dealer to put the 16" wheels on the car.
I leased: $2823 down (includes, tax, title etc., a $1000 bank fee (gotta love NY), and first month's payment), monthly payment $324/month. I got the $2000 launch discount and the GM owner loyalty discount. If I recall correctly, my cost was $28,070.
Everyone told me I'd never find steel grey w/ grey interior and I almost got merlot red from another dealer, but I looked around and found the car that I wanted; just had to get rid of those 17" wheels (no biggie). I am very pleased with the car, although I haven't driven much. I'm taking a road trip this weekend and will let you know how I like it.
My favorite part of driving the 9-3 has been the stares I get from BMW drivers, and of course with so many of them out there, I got plenty of stares. It's a really good looking car. A friend of mine who recently purchased a 3-series was in town this weekend and after riding around in my car this weekend, she mentioned that she wished she'd at least looked at the 9-3.
One question; I've been unable to get the mirror to program to accept the garage door opener functionality, despite following the instructions in the manual. The manual indicates that w/the car on, one needs to depress buttons 1&3 on then mirror until the LED blinks rapidly, indicating that the code has been cleared-out. Then you are supposed to simply hold the garage door opener 1-3 from the bottom of the mirror, while pushing the button that you want to assing the functionality to. I've gone through the process several times and it acts like it's accepting the code, but to no avail. Any suggestions (the garage opener in question is a 2.5 yr old Genie w/out the roving codes, so the car should be able to be programmed to accommodate it) ?
Thx
i am down to the 9-3 linear and the passat gls. as far as performance and handling go, the saab blows it away. it is however on the very very edge of my budget. i've never owned a saab before and this would be my first new car purchase ever.
i've driven it twice now and am very impressed with it. both times i believe it had the launch package with the 17" alloys and sport suspension. i'd like to go with the 16's and standard chassis. is the 'sport wheel' option really that much better in terms of handling? i would find out for myself but they didn't have any at the dealer without the sport suspension. i guess i'd expect it to be somewhat smoother riding with slight body roll but can't be sure.
any other advice for a rookie considering this saab is welcome. thanks.
i was told door lock/unlock is still not something that works (software bug) but that it would be fixed soon. we'll see.
a98gibson: Who is your dealer? I want to have mine call him. I'm still being told that the door lock is not available.
"The body should be washed by hand using plain cold water and a clean, soft brush through which the water flows. Automatic carwashes should be avoided when the car is new. After 5-6 months the paintwork will have hardened. To facilitate cleaning, a suitable detergent can be added to the water which should be lukewarm."
I zapped an email to Saab, they stand by the manual.
I also sent a message to Meguiars, they said "I don't really understand why an auto maker would tell car owners to allow time for a curing period as a new cars paint finish does not require a curing period. All of our car wash soaps including the Gold Class are P. h. balanced to meet all paint needs both new and old so no need to worry."
Any paint experts out there? I didn't think modern, baked paint finishes had curing requirements. Comments please.
I can understand your situation because my second choice was a Passat GLS 1.8T Tiptronic. And the Saab was at the very top of my budget if not slightly over it. It was very close but I felt spending what netted to about an extra $2k was worth it.
The dealer told me that the car has the sport wheel package and indeed it came with the 17 inch wheels. The dealer gave me the wheel package for free because it was not listed under the cars factory invoice.
My doubt is whether I really have the sport wheel package with the suspension or did the dealer just take the 17 inch wheels out of a car with the package because the owner of that car did not want it (I have seen this happen in this discussion board)and just put them in my car and told that I had the full wheel package.
Is there anyone who knows the difference between the heights of cars with and without the wheel package.
If I try to shake my car it really doesn't shake at all (maybe because it is new, does that car without the package shake?)and if I stick my hand between the tire and the body the space is of 3 fingers.
I would be glad if someone could me out. I just want to know if I was deceived or not.
General Motors Announces Most Sweeping Offer in its History
Zero percent financing for 60 months across the board with no exceptions or exclusions
DETROIT - General Motors Corp. today announced, "Zero to Sixty," the most sweeping retail marketing program in its history. Effective April 1 through April 30, GM is offering interest-free financing for 60 months on the purchase of any new 2003 GM model Cadillac, Chevrolet, Saab, Saturn, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, GMC and Buick. Additionally, GM is offering very competitive cash rebates of up to $3,000 on most models.
A national campaign including television, print and internet advertising will begin on April 1.
Following are terms for GM's 2003 models (for qualified buyers) - April 1 through April 30, 2003:
0.0/0.0/0.0% 36/48/60
Buick
Cadillac
Chevrolet
GMC
Oldsmobile
Pontiac
Saab
Saturn
Or Customer Cash
$3,000 cash on all other Buick, Chevrolet, GMC, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saab and Saturn passenger cars and trucks
It costs $131 bucks, and only works with Nokia phones, and installation will run you quite a bit more. It's made by Uhltronics:
http://www.uhltronics.com/installation_93.html
Dion
Relative to the price of the car, keep in mind that at least through 3/31, Saab (GM) was offering $2500 in dealer cash on the car and a $1K GM loyalty discount. So, while I don't know if GM extended those offerings, they may have. I also was fortunately able to qualify for the GM employee discount, so w/all of the savings added to the already reasonable price of the car, I was able to get what I feel to be a very attractive and (for more) capable car for the price of an Accord, Passat, Mazda6, etc.
i still expect the stock suspension / 16" alloys to let me feel the road since it is indeed saab, i just really liked that there was basically 0 body roll on the corners.
oh, and has anyone ever dealt with carsdirect.com??
There're cars with 17" wheels on them but they don't have sport chassis. During December the supplier for 16" wheels was running behind in shipments and Saab had to put 17" wheels on some cars free of charge. I'm in this situation that the dealer misled me that my car had the sport package. The issue has been brought up to the sale manager and I'll keep you posted. I'll bring this up to Saab USA too.
The good news: My dealer was able to program the automatic door "unlock" feature. It unlocks the doors when the ignition key is removed. I typically lock the doors when driving and this is a handy feature which works well.
The bad news: automatic door "locking" is still not functional.
The Service Manager said that he expected automatic door locking in this software revision, but it didn't happen. He hopes for it in the next revision, which should be released in 3-4 weeks. Maybe I can combine the software update trip with OnStar installation!
I didn't get everything I wanted, but did end up with part of my wish list completed (radio software upgrade and unlocking), a 2003 9-3 loaner, and a clean, hand washed car waiting for me when I came back to pick mine up.
Thanks,
I've posted it here: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/TGP1810/saabprices.doc
The 3K rebate (I'm pretty sure) is part of the 0-60 ad campaign. You can get 0%/60 months financing on all 2003 makes or you can get $2000 - $3000 cash back on all 2003 makes (except Cadillac).
my wife and i just bought a 1999 saab 9-3 se and we like it a lot.
be sure to visit our web page that features a review, plans for aftermarket upgrades to the car as well as a forum where you can post and view saab 9-3 comments.
here is the url:
http://www.backcountryjournal.com/1999saab93review.htm
thanks, and have a great day!
mike
Also does the 9-3 require premium fuel?
http://members18.clubphoto.com/saab698566/owner-f33f-1.phtml
I drove a 9-3 Linear for the first time today, so here are some impressions. The model I drove had an MSRP of $29,xxx and had the automatic, 16" wheels(look like the standard ARC wheels), heated seats and sunroof. They had two Linears which were identically equipped and an Arc. The Arc looked as if it was about to be sold as the same person was looking the car over and test driving it the entire time I was there. Anyway, my impression of the Linear was pretty good. I don't think I've driven a 4 cylinder that was as smooth or refined as this one. It was a touch slow off the line, but the turbo kicked in real quickly and was very smooth. It felt much like a nice DOHC V6 does when revving it up. Brakes were very good and the handling seemed good. I just took a brief test drive, but was very impressed with the ride as well. The seats were very comfortable, however, the model I drove did not have the power seat so I could tilt the seat back as I would liked to, otherwise the driving position was great. The audio system was decent, but coming from a Bose system in my current car, it lacked good base response. And I can see why as those rear speakers are tiny. All in all I was impressed with the car and definitely want to try an Arc next time. The Arc they had there was fully loaded with automatic, heated seats, sunroof, and touring package. As I've said before, I'd happily take an Arc in base from. possibly with heated seats as the only option. I will definitely keep the 9-3 on my short new car shopping list.
saabvec - Great pictures. I was afraid the Vector interior would be too dark and monochromatic...it looks very nice!