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Varmint, did you notice switches for heated seats in the EX's?
CR-V models in Canada get leather seats, color matched bumpers, door handles and hard spare tire cover. We don't even have them as options.
This may be very important for those interested in the third row. The key question is whether or not the second row portions can be locked in the slid-forward position. That compromises second row legroom but gives third row passengers a bit more room.
On the MDX, the 40% portion can be locked in the forward position.
There were no seat heaters in the EX model I "test-parked". But it was a basic EX model, not an EX-L. Still, I doubt that even the EX-L with get seat heaters. Same reasoning regarding Canada as above...
Note from the review; Single CD player.
Also, take a look at the second interior pic. The honeycomb inserts in the sides of the center console are the "plastic-y" things that were a big part of my issues with the interior.
Is this demo open to the public or do you have to be from a dealer?
THANKS
I do like the radio on top of the vents though.
-mike
Someone should have warned you about driving GM crossover SUV's in or around Southern California. Didn't you read the warning label on the visor?
Other vehicles required by the NHTSA to bear this warning are the Ford Explorer V6, Mercedes ML320, Chevy Tahoe, Lincoln Navigator, Mitsubishi Montero, Isuzu Trooper, Land Rover Discovery, Ford Windstar, Mazda MPV, Dodge Caravan, as well as the 4 cylinder Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Mitsubishi Galant, and C Class Mercedes...to name just a few.
Let's be careful out there.
Is this demo open to the public or do you have to be from a dealer?
THANKS
http://www.autonet.ca/EdmontonDrive/
http://www.autonet.ca/DriverSource/
Interesting to see how well the Pilot fared on the Rick Russell designed off-road test track.
Note that prices are in Canadian $'s and Canadian EX-L purchasers will have warm buns irregardless of the weather.
Also, does any of the dealers have color chips of the sagebrush?
Thanks.
I really haven't been concerned about the power of the Pilot, thinking 240HP would be OK... the toll road hill I plan to test will have the answer. What I have been concerned about is the performance of the AWD system, and how it will respond in winter mountain driving conditions.
Overall she is happy with her Trailblazer, have you considered the Envoy or the TB they are very comfortable (Personally I like the olds the best, more features better warranty and looks). I can also guarantee that they will get better gas mileage than your current Mountaineer V8. Although my mom isn't impressed with her average of 18mpg in mixed driving. Her previous car was a 97 4 cyllinder Toyota.
0-60 in 8.1 IIFC, if that matters... They did say it didn't handle quite as sharply as the MDX, due to softer springing, and higher profile tires. While they said it may well set the standard for "family" SUVs, it wasn't much fun to drive, much like family sedans aren't a whole lot of fun to drive.
Bob
For me, the fun factor in an SUV comes from the high seating position that allows you to enjoy the landscape while driving. For example, it's really awesome to drive to San Francisco in an SUV and enjoy the view from the bay bridge.
My $0.02. BTW, Anderson Honda contacted me to let me know that they're arriving soon. I'll schedule a test drive ASAP, however, no news on pricing. I'm not worried though, I'll drive as far as I have to to get a good deal.
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?s=ed63030ee464b24db0deb3a167a75f6d&threadid=5584
As things are now, it could be a while until you get a demo at the dealerships. Pre-selling on the Pilot seems to be the order of the day.
Jerry
1) The sunroof - I drive most of the day, love the outdoors and don't mind the noise (must be from learning to drive in a TR 4a irs)
2) The heated seats - it gets cold on powder days!
3) The 50K Warranty - I drive 28k mile a year
I also like the fog lights, lumbar support, outside temperature gauge, compass and auto-dimming rearview mirror. The magazines also indicate that the MDX is a little sportier in its' handling and road manners, i.e. "fun to drive". I don't care about the features of the Touring model MDX; in fact from what I've read I'd rather have someone install real roof racks than get Acura's.
The Pilot offers a lower price, more storage in the center console, standard bsm and uses regular gas. The dvd player I don't really care about, but I'm going to have to get it if I order this vehicle.
The exterior styling is a wash for me. I think the MDX looks too much like a minivan, and the Pilot is too generic looking. Delivery for either one will be June or July.
I'm curious to read what others think of this asessment...
fedlawman - where are you getting your info?? I have a 2001 Honda Civic - 1 safety recall and 25 TSBs. The 2001 Honda Accord - no recalls and 12 TSBs. The 2001 Pontiac Aztec has 1 recall and 88 TSBs. http://www.alldata.com/TSB/49/014903GN.html
What are color options for the Pilot and should I wait to trade my CR-V in on the 2004 Pilot and let Honda work out any problems it may find with the new 2003 Model coming out this summer??? Also, I thought the pilot seats 8 - I've been seeing in here only 7 people?
http://www.edmunds.com/products/maintguide/index.html
Bob
1) Sunroof
2) Heated seats
3) 50K Warranty
4) Also leather which isn't available on LX
5) Tinted windows
All nice to have, but not worth $9,000.
How much does this truck cost already. I'm glad I'm waiting for sagebrush in August, great idea that people have over 30k in hand to buy a truck they haven't driven, seen, and don't even know how much to pay for it(joking). Tell us the price already. This is not suspenseful, this is arrogant/ignorant marketing.
First of all, they are only issued if there is a fix. If a manufacturer can't fix any of their problems, zero TSBs will be issued. In contrast a company that does fix bugs will have a longer list.
Second, to the best of my knowledge, TSBs are not regulated. No one is telling each manufacturer that they have to use TSBs. It's possible that a company might decide not to issue a TSB for a problem.
There are things that you can use TSBs for once you have made your purchase, but comparing them across manufacturers or models is a mistake.
What Honda has done with the mid sized SUV is awesome. They will do to the SUV market what they did with the mini-van market.
A total of 73,000 will be built and made available through December..thats alot of cars for an initial roll out. Moonroof will come out in later models. Perhaps next year. Also the total build and spread of the model mix will be 10% LX's and 90% EX's.
If I was Ford or GM or D/C...I would be VERY concerned right about now.
Jerry
-mike
Is there anything that you noticed that wasn't mentioned elsewhere?
Also, how did your comparison drive go?
Can you compare or comment on the Leather in the Pilot and compare it to the MDX? Gracias Mijo
-mike
The Pilot is perfect for 99% of the SUV fans out there, it is descent on mileage and is still a LEV!!!!
Another fan of the Pilot (another forum) found about 16 Pilots at a hotel in the Baltimore area. A bunch of employees from the Aliston plant had been given the opportunity to drive them around the states as kind of a "thank you" parade. Silly, but they didn't seem to mind.
-mike
Pilot/MDX
Height: 70.6/71.3
Headroom (front): 41.9/38.7
Headroom (rear): 40.9/39.0
Headroom (3rd row): 38.9/36.3
How is it possible that the MDX is taller (wasn't the Pilot supposed to be taller?) and yet headroom is less than the Pilot's?
Jerry
Jerry
Roll out is 6-3-02. OFFICIAL pricing will be made public 6-2-02.
Jerry