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On Sunday we got in and drove about 5 mins and realized that the a/c was not working and it was 90+ degrees in Atlanta. Anyway took to the dealership again on Monday and they kept it (giving us a rental on them) and told us on Tuesday this is not a warranty issue. The explanation was that the a/c line had been hit by a stone and thus was going to cost us $640 to repair. I was not buying this for a second so I got online and did some research and have found a ton of people who have had this problem with the '05 Odyssey. We had a GREAT sales person and contacted him and he got GM involved who suggested we call Honda CS. We did this and got a call that evening from the service mgr that this was a freak incident and they were going to cover as a one time thing for "good will" but what about next time? We did not fall in any potholes on our driving the day before as a matter of fact the a/c was too cold that day. Now we are concerned because we feel this is a design flaw - how do we go about making Honda acknowledge this and start doing something to remedy the '05?
I thought idle speed should be always same all the time.
If you are not comfortable buying an Ody because this could happen then buy something else, you'll sleep better at night. Get a Mr. Grill or something to block small objects from entering the opening or keep paying Honda service each time it happens.
Besides, that can still be a $500 deductible, if you are willing to make a claim. And since I live in NJ, we think hard about making claims, since the rates are high enough already.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I don't think it would "take a very hard hit at just the right angle" either. Most coolant/ac lines are rather thin-walled material and any rock of reasonable proportion at highway speed could bust the line. I'm sure there are some vehicles with similarly exposed lines, but from my experience most are not flat and wide-open to the world like the Ody.
I went the cheap route to protect mine. A wire mesh from the DIY store with some plastic ties and a can of semi-gloss black paint. It's basically hidden and doesn't look different than stock unless you get up real close. I'm not a fan of the Mr. Grille, but that's just me. I have put similar mesh on grilles on other vehicles in the past just to keep bugs and such out of the radiator. I tend to mod all my vehicles to some degree though. My Jetta diesel has a steel skid-plate on the bottom because a lot of folks have busted their oil pans on road debris/frost-heaves/pot-holes/etc. Of course I'm not sure I think a mod like this should be "required" on a run-o-the-mill vehicle such as a minivan. I'm not letting Honda off the hook, but it's really not a big deal to me. Someone that would have to pay a shop to do this mod should be upset.
My check engine light did start coming on more when I started having the transmission problems but it seamed to go away if I removed the gas cap and put it back on. However they did detect a P code error of some type that told them the 3rd gear shift sensor was bad so they replaced it.
I have always made certain I kept the dealership informed of all the problems.
I thought I was going to have to pay part of the transmission replacement but for some reason the zone service manager (if that is their title) approved the replacement for free.
VIN numbers. exactly what would be the VIN number of the vehicle? The VIN is supposed to be stamped on the engine block.
What is the future value to another dealership (Honda or other) if the VIN numbers for all the body parts doesn't match the engine?
I guess if I contemplated the resale value of the vehicle (and when you're buying a Honda you probably are factoring this in), exactly how does an engine replacement (even if trouble-free) affect the vehicle's resale value?
Even if a dealer doesn't go to the trouble of searching for matching VINs, what shows up on a CarFax report? How would that affect vehicle resale value?
breinders, why don't you ask that question in the forum "Real-World Trade-In Values" or "Any Questions for a Car Dealer"?
Personally, if I knew:
a. the original engine was replaced when the vehicle had less than 1000 miles on the odometer and;
b. the van has not had any other engine related issues in the following 4 years, then.....
as the potential buyer of a 4-year old used Ody, I personally wouldn't care one iota if the engine had been replaced when the car was brand new. I'm not buying that replaced engine. I only care about the condition of the engine actually in the vehicle, not the condition of the vehicle as it left the factory.
Matching numbers? It's an ODYSSEY, not a late 60's Hemi Cuda......
Put yourself in the place of a prospective buyer 4 years down the road.
exactly what i was trying to do. while you personally wouldn't have an issue, and your argument makes sense, you are speaking for yourself. what is another dealer or mr./mrs. smith supposed to think? what carfax or honda dealership/network information will they have access to, and will it affect the car's resale value?
Matching numbers? It's an ODYSSEY, not a late 60's Hemi Cuda......
that makes the point. an ODY should have matching VIN information everywhere. one way to tell if a Honda has had collision repairs resulting in body panel replacement...check the VIN stickers.
Maybe others have the same problem.
Hmmmm tough call for me (thank god I don't have to call it
IF you're planning on keeping this a long time....say, 10 years.....it's tempting.
If you don't plan to - New Minivan period.
Any body experienced on any odyssey model?
Good Luck and let us know how it turns out!
Drove to LA from Bay Area.
400 miles to LA used 16+ gal.
Back from LA used 18+.
So, mostly high way and just passed 20.
Way below 28.
I didn't check all the messages here.
Did anyone complain the road noise b4?
Mostly tire noise.
Very loud, worst one I ever had on any car, pick-up or SUV.
Mine is EX basic.
I don't own an Ody, but isn't 5/50 more of a warranty than you get on their new van? I thought it was only 3/36.
Is this a speedometer problem, a sending unit problem, or what do you experts out there suggest? If you think it is DOA, where do you recommend a replacement one?
Thanks in advance, Carl
The EPA mileage is set in a perfect environment, altitude, level surface, temperature, etc. None of what we really drive in. Yes, that needs to change to reflect more accurate readings for each region. We get 18.5 on average and maybe 20 on the freeway. Of course those EPA numbers are probable at 55 mph. Nobody drives that slow on most freeways.
Swap out your tires. The factory tires are always the cheapest ones on the market. We use the best Michelin ones out there. I think they are called "One" or something like that. They really quieted things down.
Good luck, Carl
Thanks!
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Anybody with a similar problem?
Thanks! :confuse:
Here is a collection of the headlines in this forum:
-Whistling Windshield noise
-Steering wheel vibration
-Poor MPG
-Check Engine light on
-Engine being replaced in brand new '05 Ody
I dont understand why people are buying this vehicle. My sympathies are with all the owners who have had the above problems.
More than 85,000 minivans recalled to fix impact sensors for airbags.
Add one more problem to the already long list of problems. This Ody is turning out to be a Quality nightmare.
The Accord is basically the number one car on the planet and yet if you visit the problems board you will see that even the golden years (90-93) suffer from at least 5 very common problems.
Check engine lights can result from any number of issues, included something as simple as not fully turning a gascap. And the engine replacement is an isolated incident unless you know something we don't. Every vehicle has problems and this is where they ALL come to be dealt with. For every person on here with a problem there are at least 100 more that don't have any. Just keep that in mind.
Very true. I've always frequented the boards of vehicles I own and most vehicles will scare you if you read the problem forums. I've never found one that didn't have a certain number of problems specific to that vehicle. I can rattle off a few real easy of vehicles we own/have purchased recently:
Wifes '04 Lexus GX470: vibration at highway speeds, bump/thump when stopping, tire wear on certain models. We haven't encountered those problems, but had others.
'02 Tahoe: steering clunks and needs lubricated every 10k miles, fruity fuel gauges, noisy a/c condenser. We had all three of these issues.
As for the problems listed with the Ody...one was for a single engine that failed at 600 miles. Hardly an "issue", that's called an anomaly. When my family owned a Dodge dealership years ago, stuff like that happened. It sucked, particularly for the person that just bought the thing. Transmissions are the #1 item to grenade at very very low miles.
I've not had any of the issues listed above and the recall doesn't apply to my Ody. I'd buy another one tomorrow if I had to. Best minivan available IMHO unless up-front cost is your #1 concern.
Number one...I'd check the mileage and make sure one of the sales staff hasn't taken his annual family vacation in your van. Number two, did they offer to provide a free loaner van after their bonehead mistake. And number three, I'd find another dealer to repair my van if I were you.
It's actually pretty easy to crack the windshield while removing the mouldings. One slip is all it takes and this happens to the best of technicians.
Do you REALLY think someone would really take a customer's Odyssey on vacation?? Where do you come up with stuff like this?
They offered a loaner, they are fixing the Odyssey, they are putting in a new windshield. What more could they do?
And, yeah...I guess it would probably be a good thing to find another dealer who NEVER makes mistakes. Wherever THAT is!
The poster asked for some advice...I didn't think I had to run my reply to you and get your o.k before posting it. It shouldn't take 3 days to replace a windshield. Since it took them 3 days to get to removing the mouldings(and then cracked the glass)...it sounds like the techs/service dept. is unorganized & aren't very knowledgable.Knowing that it is so easy to crack a windshield would lead most people to be exceptionally careful when installing it. Poster is free to accept my advice or disreguard it.
okc1...you're welcome. And good luck with your windshield and your Ody.
My Odyssey 05 EXL with 2500 miles on it has the same problem. My wife noticed it after we drove it home. It is exactly what you described, like a released spring under the transmission area. The noise came on about 50 yards driving away from our drive way. I have not taken in for check yet, just waiting for the 5k oil change. May be i should taking in sooner.
Let keep in touch on what our dealers fixes are.
Bruce