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Hiya, You are right about the high cost for those tweeters! I am looking into a cheaper alternative, but if not, I am fine with the stereo as is anyway.
As for the tires, I am probably going with Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread...that is what the dealer recommended if I want improvement over the Yokos. They have excellent ratings on the tire rack and they are not too costly.
I bought a set of Yakima brackets and cross bars, and they work well with the factory rails. If you look on Yakima's website, I think the brackets are called lowriders, but I am not sure.
When you say the 2 factory rails, do you mean the standard rails that come on the outtie, or some extra option? The standard rails I have. I looked at the sight and saw what you're talking about. Sounds right, so if the factory rails are standard, I'll give em a try.
Correct - I am talking about the 2 rails that came on it.
** The only reason I asked if you had them was because I have seen a couple of "stripper" base model Outlanders with no rails on top - they also had clear rear windows instead of the privacy glass. I didn't know if you were looking for stuff that would work with the rails, or starting totally from scratch.
I just replaced my Yokohamas with a set of BFGoodrich Traction T/As. I looked at those on the Tirerack web site, and they had good reviews too. I still had a lot of tread left on the Yokos, but they were noisy, and not especially great in the rain. I like the BFGoodrich tires so far. I will let you know how they do in the long run.
Hi,my flex pipe got a leak also, the part itself at the dealer ship is $280 and labor is about $140.The Flex pipe (Front Pipe) can only be purchased at the dealership,no auto store stocks it or even has it listed,
What I did is I went Meineke and the replaced it with on of there flex pipes for $215 total. Well $180 for me I have a VIP card. Ah...no more putt putt....
Looking to replace my Yoko Geolanders, Anyone recomend good all season tire. I was looking at the 225/60R16 Bridgestone Turanza LS-H (125.00 ea). or the new Goodyear Triple Treads. Thanks for any replies.
They should be struts, not shocks (I think so anyway). I assumed they were gas - you said you saw oil coming out of them??? What indications did you get that they had gone bad (bad ride, noise, etc...)? The '03 had a 3/36,000 mile warranty - the 60,000 mile warranty started for '04 models. If I were in your position with 37,000 miles on the car, I would ask the dealer if there is any way they could be replaced under warranty - explaning they should last well past 37,000 miles. If he says no, I would at least ask if he could discount the cost of replacement struts since they did fail early. If they won't do anything for you, I think I would go to an independant repair shop, and get an aftermarket brand (like Monroe). You might find the aftermarket brand to be superior to the original.
I just put a set of BF Goodrich Traction T/A tires on my Outlander. They got really good reviews on the TireRack website for wet/snow/dry performance. Those Turanzas are expensive. The cheapest price I found in my area for them installed was $550. I got the BF Goodrich tires installed for $450 out the door. I think the BF Goodrich is a 60,000 mile tire. So far, I like them a lot.
"Japan's aluminum-block 2.4 DOHC MIVEC four produces 168 hp under the hood of the redesigned Outlander. But Mitsubishi knows America wants — and expects — a V6, so a new 3.0-liter V6 has been developed to make sure the Outlander is competitive."
I just purchased a set of Sumitomo HTR-H4's. Have about 1000 miles on them right now entire set ran me $350 installed. They are a nice riding tire, ran them thru the first rain and no wheel spin at all (like the Outlanders a racer anyway), in any event extremely quiet compared to the stock Geolanders (junk!), and a better ride.
I have seen them at the Tire rack for 57 each and are rated for 40k. I had Bridgestones on my Galant they only lasted about 30k..
I would chose Goodyear if you are down to those two choices.
:mad: Anyone else have these problems??? I love my 2003 AWD XLS Outlander(got it brand new, now has 36,000 miles- leased) except that it has MULTIPLE creaks throughout it since it has gotten colder outside. I took it back to the dealer who said my warranty is up and would have to pay $90 just to have it looked into...not including any repair work. All I have to say is thank goodness it's only a lease because it: rattles in my driver side door armrest, rattles in the back cargo area (where it's made of styrofoam!), in both seatbelt towers (rattles constantly next to my ear!), my driver side seat creaking on any acceleration, the sunroof rattling, had the belt replaced once for rattling now it's worse, the back struts sound like they will fall off when I go over dips in cold weather, and the grinding the front end makes in cold weather when turning my wheel left to right. I advise not to purchase if you are like me....someone who wants something worth a $25,000 pricetag, which is not the Outlander (do like the comfort of the styling- not the overall make though). I can't wait until my term is up and to get rid of it. Hope yours is treating you better.
My wife has the same vehicle- 2003 AWD XLS with almost 40k miles. I don't drive it much, but so far it is holding up well and still seems as tight as when it was new. I drove it a few weeks ago, though, and noticed an occasional, but annoying squeak. It sounded like a suspension noise, but I finally figured out that it was the driver's seat. It sounds like metal on metal, maybe a spring rubbing. Since it's out of warranty (and I don't drive it much!) I guess we'll live with it.
Hello, I have a mitsubishi outlander 2004, lately it has been making a clicking sound, when I reverse, and shift to drive, it doesn't do it all the time, but is there, i haven't taken it to the dealer yet I wanted to do some research before taking it in. Does anyone else experience something similar to this?
Not all America wants a V6. There are many of us very consious about gas prices and comsuption and who knows small SUV are not drag racers. Hopefully Mits will please everyone.
There was a heavy rain yesterday -> this morning. The car was left with the windows tightly sealed. Today, when I returned to the Outlander- which was parked in the sun for several hours after the rain stopped - the front windshield and passenger window were coated on the inside with condensation. I'm not talking turn on the defroster kind of condensation but go get a roll of paper towels kind of wet. I've experienced this when my old civic had a leak but in that case the driver side carpet was soaked (it had been in an accident and a seam needed some silicone). I felt all the carpets for wetness but didn't find anything. Anyone else ever experience this?
I have an ,04 Outlander LS and I also own a '96 Toyota Corolla. What you mentioned with the moisture on the windshield I occasionally get in my Toyota, but never in my Outlander. It is just condensation, and although the worst times do need to be "towel dried", minor condensation actually dries up quickest with the air conditioner blowing out the defrost not heat!!!
Im a new guy, so if this question has already been answered--well what can i say.I have a 2004 Outlander 2wd 4 door. I love it, but looked everywhere for front seat covers. Cant find them. Even at my dealer.Can someone please tell me where i can buy a pair?. A web site or a phone number would be great, thanks, jsa9.
Those are on Ebay right now. Some posters have pointed out that if you have airbags in your seatbacks covers might be problematic if thing turned sour?? It is a thought.....
Bought my '04 new. Rattles began after about 18k miles, and got worse ever since. This is caused by worn pads becoming loose. New pads immediately cured noise, but after 5k miles is little by little, coming back again :mad: . Does anyone out there knows how to put an end to this once an for all? Thank.
I lease an 03 Outlander LS AWD. This is my thrid Mitsu, and may very well be my last. I had my front brakes replace about a year ago by a family member. I have nothing but issues since. I keep getting a metal to metal sound when I turn the steering to the right or left, and when I go straight. I had two opinions and both said that there are a lot of meat left to the brakes. Everytime I take it to the auto repair place they can never hear anything. The last time when I taken it to the dealer they said becuase of using after market brakes (bogus response and typical dealer answers) is why I am having these noises, but they couldn't duplicate the noises when the vehicle was at the dealership??? Most recent my mechanic which is a fmaily member stated that the front brakes shifted a little and that this is what may be cauing the noise. The noise stopped for about three weeks, and now is back to haunt me. I'll tell you I am so sick and tired of all my Mitsubishis having rattles, squeaks, and now this problem which seems no one can duplicate, and or fix. I am very annoyed of reading an artice recenlty about how Mitsubishi should of had recalls on several of their vehicles, but failed to give consumers recall notices (tried to sweep issues under the carpet)..souce (detnews.com). Has anyone have similar issues????? I have until Feb 07 to unload this Mitsu. pain!!
I leased a Mitsubishi Outlander 2006(special edition) from Cite Mitsubishi of Montreal on Nov. 15, 2005. I drove it twice on the road so far. In both cases, the vehicle almost killed me. When I was trying to slowdown, the vehicle started spinning on the road (180 degrees in the first case, and ended up in ditch in the second). It is obvious that the vehicle has some serious mechanical problems. As a very careful driver, i never drive aggressively. NEVER BUY THIS CAR, IT CAN KILL!!!! J
Hi, Ohh I am having the same pain in the rear problems! First is after 29,000 miles front tires wearing that are 74,000 miles tires by yoko that came from the factory even after numerus rotations. This is due to some front end problem that no one seems to know how to fix. Car drifts to right and steering is loose causing the balding tires. Then the brakes! Have had to have them serviced at least 3 times. Outlander only has 39,000 miles on it for some reason the pads are wearing and grinding the rotors. I am so sick of this car! Have you had any front end problems as far as like the right strut cracks after sitting overnight? Mine as soon as I pull out of the driveway it starts making noises with cracking and a grinding when hitting a bump or turning the steering wheel. But as far as the brakes I am about sick! At 26,000 miles I needed new rotors.. This is after having them turned and 2 brake jobs done!
OK, hopefully this will help some of you. I have an '03 AWD Outlander with 34,000 miles on it.
Regarding the stock Yokohama tires - My experience with them are that they are very loud, and do not do that well in bad weather. I asked Connor at The Tire Rack over in the accessories forum, and he said they are truck tires (which I didn't know), and that the Outlander is a car based vehicle (which I did know). Since they are supposedly truck tires, that is part of the reason for the road noise they produce, and Connor went on to say they aren't rated very well for snow. Let me add that I wasn't having wear problems, but I did replace them with a set of tires that are a little better suited to the Outlander than the stock Yokohamas were. The new tires have made a world of difference in the ride quality, and noise level.
If your car is pulling to the right, there is a Technical Service Bulletin that specifically adresses this issue, and discusses a fix. You can get the # for that TSB off of this website, and give it to your dealer if you feel as though they don't know where to start with fixing your vehicle. If you need help finding the TSB #, let me know what year your Outlander is, and whether it is 2wd or AWD. I would assume that you have already tried the obvious and had an alignment performed on the car???
Regarding suspension noises - My front suspension has made a lot of noise, and seems to have gotten a little more frequent over the last 15,000 miles. I recently took it in to the dealer, and they made ajustments, and lubricated various points on the suspension. After I picked the car up, the noises started back after about a week. I typically run my air pressure in my tires at @ 35psi. The placard on the door says 28psi. From a visual stand point, the tires look a little slack at 28psi, which is why I ran them up around 35psi. I recently set my pressures down around 30psi, and the noises have gotten a lot better. From my experience, it seems that if the tire pressures are maintained in the 28-31psi range, the suspension doesn't make nearly as much noise.
In terms of your brakes - for some people/cars, 39,000 miles is about right for front brake replacement, especially depending on what kind of driving environment you are in. I am easy on brakes, but I tend to replace front brakes on my cars (all of my cars) in the 30K - 40K window. You said you have had your brakes "serviced 3 times". What do you mean by serviced? What did they do?
I am not saying that what I have suggested is any kind of a "cure all", I am just sharing what I have found to work for me on my particular vehicle.
Further to my post #388, I have to add something here. I mentioned earlier that the car almost killed me by spinning. One tire was damaged, and I was in extreme cold weather, and I needed “ROAD ASSISTANCE”, so I called the number, the response: “Pay COD, then we send you somebody, otherwise we won’t touch the vehicle.” Then I asked, “What kind of vehicle would you tow?” “Only a vehicle that is not damaged” is the answer. I had to manage to make another 450 miles on the spare tire on my own
After the incident, I wasted hours trying to contact the customer service department of Mitsubishi Canada, no one was available. (Here is the number, 1888576-4878, you try it out and check it out.) Then I left 3 messages in their mail box, there had been no response either ever since What a shame! Bunch of money-driven bums!!!
Can you please clarify? Your posts aren't really detailed enough to understand exactly what happened.
"When I was trying to slowdown, the vehicle started spinning on the road (180 degrees in the first case, and ended up in ditch in the second)"
What were the road conditions? Rainy, Dry, Icy? You were driving at a regular speed, and applied the brakes normally, and the car just started spinning out of control? Please elaborate.
I recently bought a used 2004 Outlander with about 20,000 miles on it. Moving up from a 2002 Ford Escort ZX2..you can imagine that I am loving it right now except...this strange noise coming from the back passenger side of the car. I thought it was only happening after I had turned off the car but I also notice it while it was idling. The popping noise sounds like metal that has been pushed in and is popping out. At first the dealership thought it was the muffler "cooling" off but I called their bluff. Then I brought it into the dealership again and they said they replaced something in a "vent" back by the gas tank. Betcha can't guess...yep..still doing it. Took it in AGAIN and they replaced the whole "vent". The guy told me that if it continued to make the popping sound that it just might be "that kinda of noise" that this car makes. Can you feel the frustration? Yes I am a female but I do have a bit of common sense that a metal popping at the back of my car near my gas tank is NOT a "normal" noise that cars make. Please help. Don't want to make a fool of myself by freaking out on the poor service guy who keeps giving me BS reasons for the noise. Thanks!
Got 4 brand new Bridgestone Traction T/A H rated to replace those useless Yoko's. What a diffence, noise is better and handling is great. Got a good deal to,usually 109 a tire,got them for $79 a tire.
Is anyone having noises from the front suspension? Mine makes a "thud" sound when you hit a bump at low speeds. I was thinking it was the struts, but I have had them looked at, and have been told they are fine. I was reading over on the Acura RSX board, and they talk about a similar noise, and in their case it is the coil spring in the strut assemby moving around slightly. I was just curious if any Outlander owners have the same problem.
"earlshoes" - I have those same tires on my Outlander, and you are correct - 20 times better than the stock tires.
I thought about the same thing, but then thought better of it. I think it would be better (and more expensive) to get a set of snowtires mounted to some steel rims. The Tire Rack offers package deals on their web site.
Snow tires aren't the answer. If there "Chains required" restriction on the road snow tires aren't enough. The clearance on Outlander well above SAE class "S" specification for vehicles with low clearance. I don't understand why Mitsubishi does not allow tire chain on this car. I've tried to get an answer from them but no reasonable explanation.
Hi I just got a used 03 outlander and it does pull to the right. Had it lined up and it still pulls to the right. Can someone out there tell me what is the problem with this 03 model and where I can go to get it fix.
Sounds like you need the camber bolt kits....I heard Mitsu was paying to have those installed at one point in time.(?) They sell them on eBay regularly for very little and they should help your problem.
It mat not be the case, but something like that used to happen to me, end up that I had some object loose in the plastic compartment in the back.
It was a ratleling noise, coming out from the back passenger side, very distracting and anoying. After i removed the object on the compartment. The noise went away.
I have a 2003 Outlander. Time for new tires, and I wondered how tall/big of a tire I could install on the factor wheels. Stock size is 225/60/16, but there seems like there is plenty of room to accommodate a larger tire. I don't want to replace the factory wheels, but would like the look of a larger tire.
Looking for options and the Mitsu Outlander looks nice and comes with good standard options for the price. Do you people recommend this vehicle for someone that plans to keep it for about 10 years??
I have an '03 AWD, and I bought it for because it offered me a lot of features for the price.
Here's the good - mine is AWD, and I get 23-26 mpg for my weekly commute, and have gotten 30 on highway trips - not too bad for AWD. It does have a lot of features, and is very comfortable to ride in. It also feels very car like, and handles very well. Not once have I felt any kind of a lack of traction in wet weather with the AWD, and it also feels very stable (not tippy feeling like a lot of small SUVs). The 2.4L 4 cyl is a very good engine - and has been around for a long time.
Here's the bad - The car has a lot of road noise. This was made a little better when I replaced the original tires with a set of BFGoodrich tires. It also has developed quite a few squeeks (suspension squeeks) and interior rattles within the dash (it only has 37K on it).
If I had it to do over again, would I still buy it? I sure would. I bought it to be an AWD vehicle that I could carry a little cargo and my dogs in, and for us to get to work in bad weather. However, just be aware it is not a luxury vehicle.
I have a 2003 XLS 2wd with 25k miles and think the outlander is a great vehicle. The car has been flawless and I plan on keeping it for a long time. I did have one rattle coming from the left rear speaker but fixed it with a little bit of foam. My mileage has been the same as 1racefan. I wanted an awd for trips up to Tahoe but settled for the 2wd with the luxury package since it had everything I wanted and more. I personally think the infinity stereo sound great.
The only thing I don't like is how my Thule bike rack fits on the roof. If I use the wind faring I can't open the sunroof and if I don't use the faring the wind sound is horrible.
thank you for the feedback. Im not looking for luxury. Just a versatile vehicle where you can do different activities (city, long ride, family, alone, carry stuff, etc.)and to be comfortable to drive both short and long distance.
Went to the Toronto Car Show and was able to seat in all the different models.
Hi, I just looked at a 2006 Outlander AWD GLS (which is equivalent to the limited AWD in the US). I was quoted a price during the first round of negotiations with my local dealer of $28,000 (financed) all taxes included. I am expecting them to come down a bit since this is the first time we talked price, also I am considering buying it for cash as another option (depending on price). The model is fully loaded with leather interior, 6CD changer and two sunroofs, etc. I would like to know if this price is competive or high? I live in Central America so I am expecting prices to be a bit higher then those in the US. Is there anytime of year or month that is best to buy a mitsu car? How do I check for rebates/offers? I have read that the last day of the month sometimes people have had better deals??
Also, I just finished reading this entire forum from beginning to end and I have not read anything on the AWD Outlanders off road ability (if any)? How does this car drive over potholes/bad roads? Can this car be offroaded or at least driven confidently on dirt mountain roads? :confuse:
Just make sure you know that the outlander 2007 is already out in Japan and coming to North America probably by late summer. This model is totally different than the previous years. This alone should bring the price of any previous models down.
pisulino thanks, I will use that for a bargining chip. If anyone has any info on the outlander awd offroading ability that would be a big help as well.
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As for the tires, I am probably going with Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread...that is what the dealer recommended if I want improvement over the Yokos. They have excellent ratings on the tire rack and they are not too costly.
I bought a set of Yakima brackets and cross bars, and they work well with the factory rails. If you look on Yakima's website, I think the brackets are called lowriders, but I am not sure.
** The only reason I asked if you had them was because I have seen a couple of "stripper" base model Outlanders with no rails on top - they also had clear rear windows instead of the privacy glass. I didn't know if you were looking for stuff that would work with the rails, or starting totally from scratch.
What I did is I went Meineke and the replaced it with on of there flex pipes for $215 total. Well $180 for me I have a VIP card. Ah...no more putt putt....
I was looking at the 225/60R16 Bridgestone Turanza LS-H (125.00 ea). or the new Goodyear Triple Treads. Thanks for any replies.
The '03 had a 3/36,000 mile warranty - the 60,000 mile warranty started for '04 models. If I were in your position with 37,000 miles on the car, I would ask the dealer if there is any way they could be replaced under warranty - explaning they should last well past 37,000 miles. If he says no, I would at least ask if he could discount the cost of replacement struts since they did fail early. If they won't do anything for you, I think I would go to an independant repair shop, and get an aftermarket brand (like Monroe). You might find the aftermarket brand to be superior to the original.
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I have seen them at the Tire rack for 57 each and are rated for 40k. I had Bridgestones on my Galant they only lasted about 30k..
I would chose Goodyear if you are down to those two choices.
I love my 2003 AWD XLS Outlander(got it brand new, now has 36,000 miles- leased) except that it has MULTIPLE creaks throughout it since it has gotten colder outside. I took it back to the dealer who said my warranty is up and would have to pay $90 just to have it looked into...not including any repair work. All I have to say is thank goodness it's only a lease because it: rattles in my driver side door armrest, rattles in the back cargo area (where it's made of styrofoam!), in both seatbelt towers (rattles constantly next to my ear!), my driver side seat creaking on any acceleration, the sunroof rattling, had the belt replaced once for rattling now it's worse, the back struts sound like they will fall off when I go over dips in cold weather, and the grinding the front end makes in cold weather when turning my wheel left to right. I advise not to purchase if you are like me....someone who wants something worth a $25,000 pricetag, which is not the Outlander (do like the comfort of the styling- not the overall make though). I can't wait until my term is up and to get rid of it. Hope yours is treating you better.
Does anyone out there knows how to put an end to this once an for all? Thank.
As a very careful driver, i never drive aggressively.
NEVER BUY THIS CAR, IT CAN KILL!!!!
J
Regarding the stock Yokohama tires - My experience with them are that they are very loud, and do not do that well in bad weather. I asked Connor at The Tire Rack over in the accessories forum, and he said they are truck tires (which I didn't know), and that the Outlander is a car based vehicle (which I did know). Since they are supposedly truck tires, that is part of the reason for the road noise they produce, and Connor went on to say they aren't rated very well for snow. Let me add that I wasn't having wear problems, but I did replace them with a set of tires that are a little better suited to the Outlander than the stock Yokohamas were. The new tires have made a world of difference in the ride quality, and noise level.
If your car is pulling to the right, there is a Technical Service Bulletin that specifically adresses this issue, and discusses a fix. You can get the # for that TSB off of this website, and give it to your dealer if you feel as though they don't know where to start with fixing your vehicle. If you need help finding the TSB #, let me know what year your Outlander is, and whether it is 2wd or AWD. I would assume that you have already tried the obvious and had an alignment performed on the car???
Regarding suspension noises - My front suspension has made a lot of noise, and seems to have gotten a little more frequent over the last 15,000 miles. I recently took it in to the dealer, and they made ajustments, and lubricated various points on the suspension. After I picked the car up, the noises started back after about a week. I typically run my air pressure in my tires at @ 35psi. The placard on the door says 28psi. From a visual stand point, the tires look a little slack at 28psi, which is why I ran them up around 35psi. I recently set my pressures down around 30psi, and the noises have gotten a lot better. From my experience, it seems that if the tire pressures are maintained in the 28-31psi range, the suspension doesn't make nearly as much noise.
In terms of your brakes - for some people/cars, 39,000 miles is about right for front brake replacement, especially depending on what kind of driving environment you are in. I am easy on brakes, but I tend to replace front brakes on my cars (all of my cars) in the 30K - 40K window. You said you have had your brakes "serviced 3 times". What do you mean by serviced? What did they do?
I am not saying that what I have suggested is any kind of a "cure all", I am just sharing what I have found to work for me on my particular vehicle.
After the incident, I wasted hours trying to contact the customer service department of Mitsubishi Canada, no one was available. (Here is the number, 1888576-4878, you try it out and check it out.) Then I left 3 messages in their mail box, there had been no response either ever since What a shame! Bunch of money-driven bums!!!
"When I was trying to slowdown, the vehicle started spinning on the road (180 degrees in the first case, and ended up in ditch in the second)"
What were the road conditions? Rainy, Dry, Icy? You were driving at a regular speed, and applied the brakes normally, and the car just started spinning out of control? Please elaborate.
"earlshoes" - I have those same tires on my Outlander, and you are correct - 20 times better than the stock tires.
It was a ratleling noise, coming out from the back passenger side, very distracting and anoying. After i removed the object on the compartment. The noise went away.
Thanks
Do you people recommend this vehicle for someone that plans to keep it for about 10 years??
Thank You,
Here's the good - mine is AWD, and I get 23-26 mpg for my weekly commute, and have gotten 30 on highway trips - not too bad for AWD. It does have a lot of features, and is very comfortable to ride in. It also feels very car like, and handles very well. Not once have I felt any kind of a lack of traction in wet weather with the AWD, and it also feels very stable (not tippy feeling like a lot of small SUVs). The 2.4L 4 cyl is a very good engine - and has been around for a long time.
Here's the bad - The car has a lot of road noise. This was made a little better when I replaced the original tires with a set of BFGoodrich tires. It also has developed quite a few squeeks (suspension squeeks) and interior rattles within the dash (it only has 37K on it).
If I had it to do over again, would I still buy it? I sure would. I bought it to be an AWD vehicle that I could carry a little cargo and my dogs in, and for us to get to work in bad weather. However, just be aware it is not a luxury vehicle.
The only thing I don't like is how my Thule bike rack fits on the roof. If I use the wind faring I can't open the sunroof and if I don't use the faring the wind sound is horrible.
Just a versatile vehicle where you can do different activities (city, long ride, family, alone, carry stuff, etc.)and to be comfortable to drive both short and long distance.
Went to the Toronto Car Show and was able to seat in all the different models.
Thank you again.....
Also, I just finished reading this entire forum from beginning to end and I have not read anything on the AWD Outlanders off road ability (if any)? How does this car drive over potholes/bad roads? Can this car be offroaded or at least driven confidently on dirt mountain roads? :confuse:
Just make sure you know that the outlander 2007 is already out in Japan and coming to North America probably by late summer. This model is totally different than the previous years.
This alone should bring the price of any previous models down.
http://outlander.jp/
Sorry but don't have experience with the AWD.