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Mark
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But the video really needs to lose the dorky background music, at least for the track shots....we want to hear the cars!
Someone on a different board once called the Z "the best Mustang ever made". That was before the '05 Mustang hit the streets. Now, the '05 Mustang GT is once again the best Mustang ever made.
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Would not pay retail, or even $4k over retail on a 'Stang when they will be $2k under retail or more within the year - no doubt.
Loren
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Agree about the Z. I've looked at and test drove them (and thier G35 Coupe cousins) and there's not enough there for me to like.
I think Mustang production is getting up to speed. Local dealer has about 20 V6s and 5 GTs sitting on his lot as of last weekend. They are already discounting the V6s. As the GTs become more plentiful, I'm sure they will be discounted as well (if they aren't already).
Good to hear you are getting 24MPG, as some people are only managing to get 22. Here in California, gas is so expensive, the 24MPG would not be enough for me; but I am kinda cheap. The RX-8 is an awesome handling car, so I can see you do some sacrafice in the gas dollar payouts per tank. If you are using a quart of oil per 5k, that is great, and like you said by spec. for the way the engine works. If it stops at that rate, that is great. Hope it does for you. I wonder how insurance rates compare to a Mustang?
Wow, $30K for a Mustang? With BMW's, and such starting at under $29K, I think that price would be out of line. I realize rag tops cost more, but really... Miatas with a turbo can be had for around $22k. The Mustang was always a great value in a sporty car for the masses. Are they finally installing a roll bar in the soft top? If the V6 hardtop was selling around $18k and the GT around $22 - 23K, I could understand that. Even $24K or so for a convertible GT with a roll bar, would not seem too crazy, but not $30k. Next thing ya know a Pontiac GTO will be selling for $35K ;-)) I hear is is headed down to around $25k or so on the '04 since they tried to sell those overpriced cars. A Holden ain't worth that sort of dollar.
I need to know what everyone thinks.
I have a chance to purchase a 71 mach 1, 429CJ with a 4-speed in pretty good shape. It will need floors but body is pretty darn good. I think it's an easy resto. Interior is pristine and it only has 55K miles. Everything is documented. It looks good. What do you think I should pay roughly and what would it be worth, say as a no. 2 driver? I have already checked NADA and others but I need your expert opinion.
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Bob in Calgary
I am located in New Jersey and am having a difficult time finding a dealership here that will honor the X-plan. I am willing to fly anywhere in the country and drive the car back.
Thanks for your help.
Pat
Insurance rates between the Mustang (speaking strictly GT variety, here) would be more or less about the same as they are on my RX8. That said, I'm in my 40s and have a clean driving record.
The GTs are stacking up in Indiana (more specifically, Indianapolis). Local dealer around me (I'm just barely on the OH side of Indiana) has about 5 in stock.
I've only talked to 2 dealers (one in OH, one in IN). They both said they'll order any GT I want on the X plan (sister works for Ford). They are quoting 4-6 weeks for delivery if you don't want one off their lot.
Wait a month or two and you should be able to get whatever color, option package you want as production has cranked up on them.
The way they get good MPG in the Corvette is with the skip shift. I'll take the lower MPG without skip shift.
Neighbor has a c5 'Vette. He doesn't get near 28 MPG in his. That said, he and I both drive similarly. Just by the way we drive, I'd question my ability to get anything near 28 MPG in a 'Vette, either.
I'm getting 24 MPG in all highway with the cruise set to 75 MPH in my RX8. Getting 28 MPG, while quite a feat in any V8 powered car, wouldn't make it that much of a difference for me even if fuel economy was an issue.
I don't expect that the Mustang GT will be much different than what I'm getting in the MPG dept. either.
Since the subwoofers sit near the rear of the car, i.e. away from the back seats and folded top, it seems to me they'll be left untouched. One never knows though.
1. I live in Chicago and we have pretty bad weather in the winter. Will the GT handle properly at all in snow with the right tires?
2. I don't necessarily like the idea of having to replace Z rated tires on a regular basis. Can I replace them with all season tires without too much loss in handling ability or safety?
3. I am 30 years old with a clean driving record. How bad should I expect the insurance to be?
4. From the perspective of people that own the car now, how do you honestly feel about a GT as a daily driver?
1. Yes, but the "right" tires are snow tires, not all-season. You may also have to put some extra weight in the trunk and keep the gas tank full. Also drive in a higher gear than normal. Anything less and you will experience lots of fish-tailing.
2. The Pirelli Zero Neros which come on some GTs are all-season tires.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
If I knew up front that I would be dealing with snowy/icy conditions for an extended period of time, I would be getting tires set up for those conditions. They will help all conditions.
But, I live in central Texas, so snow is something I only see on TV......8^)
If you're just looking for a weld-in muffler, might want to consider Flowmaster...I understand the 40 series gives a fairly good V8-approximating rumble, and Flowmaster is responsible for what most people think of as *the* performance Mustang sound for the modern cars (many, many people run these mufflers).
You shouldn't have any problems with the backpressure, and your emissions should be okay as long as you don't screw with the catalytic converters.
But I'd agree with Akirby...get a good catback for the best possible sound. Also you can give yourself a quasi-dual system that way. Ford Racing offers a 3.8 quasi-dual catback that I've always wondered about...it's in the catalog; they claim good mellow sound and bolts right in. I run a Ford Racing 4.6 catback on my GT, and Iove the sound: pleasingly loud and rumbly, but not obnoxious.
I can only comment on my 18 year old's insurance rate. I have an RX8. My son's primary driver is a Hyundai Elantra. I know my insurance company would not let me "exclude" him as a driver on my RX8. So, he's on my policy. That's was a big insurance rate jump when I added him, but I don't think it had much to do with the car I was driving....only that he's a young and relatively inexperience driver. His hope is that his insurance goes down when he turns 19 next month....we'll see!
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Norman
The way I understand traction control, it only works under acceleration. If you're cornering, it won't do a thing for you (it is NOT vehicle stability control)."
Not quite true, traction control detects wheel slip and will back of the throttle and/or apply braking to the slipping wheel. I've had it come on when going through a corner under wet, e.g. in the first few minutes of a rain which loosens up all the oil, etc. on the road making it very slick, with temps well above freezing, it will keep you under control in such situations. What stability control does is add another sensor, for yaw, and the programming required to make it work, to the traction control/ABS package. That is an improvement as the system will kick in under even dry condition if you enter a curve too aggressively, even before there's a loss of traction or wheel slip. But regular traction control is still better than nothing. I just have to remember to watch my speed when I have any doubts about the road condition. Good practice anyway.
bad. first, on the spec page they show the gross weight of the RX-8 but
show the curb weight for the Mustang GT. i mean seriously do you think im
not smart enough to look it up? two, these cars are all 05', obviously
the GT is an 05' but the 350Z is not because on the specs page, the 05'
350Z has 287 hp but the 05' model is suppose to have 300 hp. Edmunds is
trying to make Nissan and Mazda look bad. Why? they give false
information to consumers to make other manufacturers look bad. they should the
truth so i think Edmunds is against Mazda and Nissan