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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The Gentleman's Mustang. I liked 'em too.

    But I also liked the early LS, which even came with a manual.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    You made several good points in your comparisons, but didn't that Mopar Turbo 4 have reliability and durability issues?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think so.

    I bought an Escort GT and my buddy had a Shadow ES (turbo) at the same time.

    His car was slightly quicker, but by the time I got rid of the Escort he wanted to buy it and ditch his Dodge.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,054
    edited January 2013
    didn't that Mopar Turbo 4 have reliability and durability issues?

    Yeah, it did, although sometimes I wonder how much of that could have been from abuse or neglect? My uncle bought a used '88 LeBaron turbo in 1990, and in 1995 sold it to me when I was married. I let the ex have it in the divorce in 1996, and by early 1998 it was total junk.

    However, it was fairly reliable to about 90,000 miles. That was when we had the timing belt replaced (should have been done at 60K...oops!) and the crankshaft and camshaft seals done. It was soon after that repair that we separated. Anyway, the car got stolen and joy-ridden a few times, and impounded a couple times as well. And, the ex didn't have the money to really take care of it, so it started getting really troublesome after we split.

    At the 118,000 mile mark, it was essentially "done". It had blown a head gasket, and had a warped head. My ex and her mother found somebody to put on a new gasket and a used head for $750, but it didn't run right after that. I talked her into letting me take it to my mechanic, and he got it running a lot better for $75...turns out there were a lot of loose/misdirected wires and vacuum hoses, as a result of the head swap. But, he also did a thorough checkover on the car and said don't put another dime into it. The turbo was shot, compression was really low in two cylinders, and a bit off in the other two. By that time the a/c compressor was also shot, the power antenna had broken off, and it had a slow leak in the transmission.

    She drove it maybe another month or so, and then it started belching sweet, white, antifreeze-laced smoke out the exhaust again. I gave her 90 bucks for it, limped it to my grandmother's house, and ultimately sold it for parts. I pulled the radio out of it, thinking I could get it to work in the '79 Newport I had at the time. It would physically fit, but the wiring was all different, so I gave up. I still have that radio, packed away somewhere.

    One last thing to add...I'm sure they made running improvements to the turbo 4 over the years. So the one in my '88 LeBaron was probably more durable than the earlier models.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    ...very ratty white 1972 Mustang hardtop with a tattered black vinyl top on the corner of Ripley and Tabor in NE Philly. Looks like the guys there bought another project they'll never finish.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    My uncle had a Chrysler "E-class" when I was a kid - maybe the least common K-car variant. I forget what year it was, maybe an 85 or so. It was light yellow with kind of a tan interior, odd colors. It seemed nice, but I remember little else about it other than the plastic/lucite style hood ornament. Oh, and the rear badging was kind of MB-like.

    My brother's first car was an 85 Aries sedan (this was maybe 1998), same colors as that E-class. I drove it once, and that was enough :shades: The old Tempo was still hanging around the family then, and to me, it seemed like a lot newer and more solid than that Aries.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,712
    My uncle had a Chrysler "E-class

    We've probably talked about this before but my Step dad had one too. An 83, white/blue and the Mitsu 2.6. It was a plush little car and it talked to you! I've seen only a few other than his.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    Chrysler had some fancy interiors then, I remember the button tufted leather in the period small and large NYers. I don't recall my uncle's car talking, maybe it had a digital dash - those were big then too. I can't remember the last time I saw one, although I want to say I have seen a Plymouth Caravelle relatively recently.
  • oldbearcatoldbearcat WVPosts: 197
    I agree with you there. I once souped up a 1980 Ford Fiesta with FWD to the point where I once broke one of the front driveshafts trying to launch it hard. With the increased power, the torque steer became ferocious on that thing.

  • berriberri Posts: 8,024
    I always thought the Chrysler GTS 4 dr fastback was a nice looking vehicle. I actually test drove one, but it was too stiff for me. I had a Dodge Dynasty several times as a rental, but that car seemed too loose and sloppy to me.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 7,012
    My late father's last car was a Dodge Dynasty. I drove it a few times and your description was exactly correct. It felt loose and floaty and I really didn't care for it at all.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    edited January 2013
    The GTS was maybe the nicest looking K-car spinoff, with the NYer being the plushest, Spirit R/T being the fastest (I think), etc.

    Here's one in full 80s regalia:


    On the K-car spinoff topic, my driver's ed car was a Plymouth Acclaim, which was...a car. No issues with it as it was virtually new at the time, but that's about all I can say.

    And on the obscure topic, local Chevy dealer has a "Saab" 9-7x sitting on the lot - a car that represents the pinnacle of modern GM idiocy.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,727
    I think you're right about the Spirit RT. IIRC it was one of the fastest fwd sedans at the time.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,825
    In the mid '80s my SIL got a new New Yorker Turbo on a lease. It kind of struck me as an economy car with a tarted up interior (can you say Cadillac Cimarron? I knew you could.) For some reason, however, I liked it. She gave it back at the end of the lease, however.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    Saw an original Lotus Elan today. Drizzle at times, which meant it was probably slowly dissolving.
  • omarmanomarman Posts: 962
    Article says it's been parked since 1980 and "the motor has been coaxed back into life" despite rodents nesting under the hood.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Beautiful car and thank God the mice didn't find their way to the interior. That interior is in amazing condition. Hope the leather isn't all dried-out.
    Like Sean Connery was the best Bond, the DB5 was the best Bond car.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    Fun. Not long ago, it wouldn't have even made it to the auction block in that condition, it would be restored first and maybe a small profit coaxed out. Now, just sell it as you found it. I'd clean it up and drive it like that. Astons of that vintage are far cooler than the relatively douchey new ones.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,856
    edited February 2013
    That one's going to cost at least $200,000 to restore I would guess, possibly more..

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,317
    If it even gets restored. The trend is away from that, it seems. Rebuild the mechanicals to make it safe and reliable (well, for a 60s Brit), clean it, and enjoy it.
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