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[this is a specialized truck and some of the LPO options combined with dealer allotment to delay]
The good news is it left the factory the week of May 10-15. The bad news is it was temporarily misplaced along the way. It has been located, but my dealer is concerned about rumours of a delivery strike that may strand it at the railyard.
Has anyone else heard about such a strike?
Has anybody been able to get a CA spec model with a V10 with a 373? I ordered the Lariat package and the dealer said that the leather only comes in tan. I hope that when the specs come out for the 2000 models these itmes can be changed. I figure if I'm going to send 30K plus I should be able to order it the way I want.
Anybody have an comments?
From what I can gather, it wasn't any one of the options that really held it up (Although DRW PSD XLT or Lariat certainly seems to slow you down), it was the combination of all of them. Each week one item on the list was on hold. Next week that would be available, but another would not be.
The original order was placed in March 1998. The salesman and manager kept saying it was coming, but it never showed. The salesman left the dealer in September and I started dealing with the manager. At this point in the game, everyone was waiting about that long for this combination (check the archives here), so I wasn't too suspicious. When the manager was on vacation in October, another salesman offered to look it up on the computer and found that my order had a priority 80! There were a dozen other trucks that had higher priority, all of which had been ordered after mine, but had higher sales prices. (The original deal was $400 over invoice) I gave them a week to push me to priority 10 and when they didn't I cancelled my order. [I didn't even have to ask twice to get my "non-refundable" deposit - they handed a check to me right there.]
I then started a quest for another fleet dealer (so I could get my LPO options) and signed up at the beginning of this year. I've been sitting at priority 10 but "dirty" for a while. I got my build date (5/3)and VIN in late April, soon after my dealer called to ask if I wanted to cancel and order a 2000 instead (1999 orders were closing). The delivery date of "week of 5/17" was missed - it has apparently been sitting 50 miles from here in a railyard since then, but after he started a trace, they located it and sent it his way.
He's doing the prep today and installing LoJack tomorrow, so I'll pick it up on Saturday.
(now if I could just remember how I was going to pay for it....)
What kind of mileage are folks getting in the F-250 SD ext cab 4X4 with either the 5.4L or the 6.8L?
I spoke to my salesman today and the lumbar on HIS Superduty broke yesterday!
More to follow.......
Zach
2500 vacation miles with Caribou 10F (11600# GVW - yeah its overloaded) from Colorado to Oregon, back and then up into the Rockies with 1500# trailer.
Average over entire trip 9.5 MPG (at legal speed limits but never over 65).
Best - 11.5 MPG (tail wind on I80 in Wyoming headed east)
Worst - 9 MPG (head wind on I80 in Wyoming headed west)
The combination of the V10 and the 4.3ls has plenty of power for the mountains, even above 10k feet. Loved smoking Dodge 2500 diesels on passes towing itty bitty camping trailers.
Others have mentioned about making sure when ordering a new SD that you get the highest priority (10?). Can someone elaborate on this a little. How do I make sure that it happens?
Thanks
tnostrant....Insist that your truck is ordered with a low priority number and tell the dealer that you want a copy of the computer print out of the Order Confirmation. The priority number will is listed on this confirmation. Priority 10 to 13 is best. My truck was a Priority 14 and I picked it up 35 days after the order was placed. Bear in mind, that was in the early Spring of this year when the factory was still accepting orders for 99's. Aside from the priority number the rest is up to the factory, providing that something on your truck is not on hold or backordered you should be in good shape.
Getting your order in early (pre-production) for a 2000 model is a great idea. In July of 96, I ordered a '97 F250 C.C. 4x4 swb diesel. At the time, those trucks were only being produced at the Canadian plant and tough to get. The truck came in 4 months later, in mid October.
Alpman....I have not purchased a bug deflector for my '99 as of yet. I did have purchase one for my previous truck, it was manufactured by Lund. Havent closely checked out the designs for our 99's but one thing that was of concern to me on the older body style was that some bug shields required the mounting of stick on rubber bumpers to the painted surface of the hood to keep the shield from bending back and rubbing against the hood at higher speeds. The Lund model I purchased had enough structural integrity that it did not require the rubber stops. So that is something you may want to check on when shopping.
Hope this helps guys....
fitted on a 250 4x4 without lifting? ("fitted"
includes no rubbing at max turning angle and
compressed supsension)
how about with a positive offset?
(oh yeah, KEH4x4: thanks for the answers to my
other questions)
Jimveta.... From what I have read in this forum and seen on customers Super Duty at my shop , the LT305/70R-16D Goodyear Wrangler AT or MT is the biggest tire without modification. I purchased these tires along with a set of Weld Racing Roadhawk wheels two weeks ago and have them setting in my garage. I am waiting to get my truck aligned at Ford before I put them on the truck. At $225 each for the wheels I decided to wait until AFTER the alignment was done to avoid knicks and scratches.
I have seen these tires mounted on the factory aluminum wheels as well. Be advised that the 99 Super Duty has a slightly different bolt pattern than its predecessor. The 99 model is 8 x 170 mm, 97 model and older used an 8 x 6 1/2 inch bolt pattern.
I got about 14.2 mpg on a trip from north San Diego County to Las Vegas. This was about 250 miles through desert with with several climbs to 4000'+ and back down again. I had cruise control set at 75 most of the way. I have the V10 Crew Cab 4x4 3.73 limited slip automatic. I also have a cab high cap on the bed. I have made this round trip 4 or 5 times and usually get between 12 and 13 mpg, averaging 80 to 85 mph. For normal driving (part freeway, part surface street - I live up a winding country road), I've been averaging probably a little less than 12 mpg. Also, my truck has the "high altitude setup" (not something I had intended on getting) and the PTO transmission. I'm not sure what exactly the high altitude setup is, but it probably has something to do with adjusting the fuel/air mixture based on the oxygen sensor. I don't know why they would be selling this configuration in Vegas (2000' elevation), but I seem to be getting slightly better mileage than what most others have been reporting.
a friend just pointed out to me in 4wheel mag that
someone also asked the same question and got the
exact same answer for stock wheels
addition, with 16.5x8.25" wheels, can do a
slightly larger 33x12.5 is what they said.. )
does one have to worry about any ECUs/computer
(i.e. for transmission and what not, besides
speedo) with change in tire size?
(and i have a 99 sd 250 4x4)
I still have two things to decide on. V10 or PSD. and short or long box on the CC. I have no idea how to make up my mind.
I originally ordered my F250 SD CC 4x4 V10 SWB 3.73, etc., etc. from a dealer in OK offering any Ford for $100 under invoice. After a 5 month wait with no VIN, build date or anything (just a lot of reassurances that everybody else was waiting too), I got a letter with a refund of my $500 deposit telling me that the dealer was going out of business and that my order had been cancelled. Five months of anticipation for NOTHING!! I called around to see if any dealer could pick up my order but everybody said that was impossible. I ended up buying one that was almost identical to the one I ordered from a local dealer for about $1000 over invoice. I felt lucky to get it because nobody had any crew cabs on the lots, and this one was in transit when I bought it. I picked it up 3 days later. I probably could have done better by reordering, but I didn't want to go through the wait again and I needed the truck to pull several trailer loads on an interstate move.
Anyway, I'm really happy with the truck and don't feel that I paid TOO high a price. I'm not defending high prices or anything, but the dealer is entitled to make something on a sale (the holdback is around $800, I think) and they have to cover their overhead. The bottom line is, I guess, that you usually get what you pay for which, in my case on my original order, was NADA.
Just my $.02 worth...
Any ideas on how I can improve on this?
gal tank but when I fill up at exactly (well,
according to the guage) half tank, I get 11.9
gals. ...?? or is this intentional.
I have the same truck w/ supercab and 373ls rear. I get about the same mileage as you, I have put the level 10 chip in, with no real improvement in mileage. If you find the answer,let me know.
foote
that the nozzle doesn't fit into my fill! The nozzle is about 1.5" in diameter, and my fill is only 1.25".
I drove around town and found the same thing elsewhere. Did finally find that there is a location with "auto diesel" with a smaller diameter nozzle that fits, but they are a low volume dealer, so I'm a little leary of things like water in the fuel. (Plus they are about $0.10 more a gallon on everything)
Do I really have to buy "auto diesel" (I had never heard of any difference in types of fuel - except for "winterized" for January.)
Our chassis cab ambulances (86-97) all have a large fuel fill and we've always gone to the truck stops for fuel.
It looks like I could maul the restrictor a little bit to allow the larger nozzles, but am I risking other problems?
Meanwhile, however, I phoned another dealer, some 20 miles from Dallas, who had really tried to get my business . A salesman there is the MOST knowledgeable truck salesman I have ever run across in my 24 years of buying/driving trucks. After hearing my problem, he went and talked to the Trim Dept. who said they had repaired several of these, there is a kit which Ford has to repair this problem. Their service dept. ordered the kit and said they would be in touch as soon as it arrives. I will provide the part number when I have it.
Meanwhile, some of the changes listed here for the 2000 models went into effect on the Spring production run of the 99 models. For instance, the elmination of body side molding on the pickup bed . I didn't realize that the passenger side lumbar was also eliminated before the 2000 model, because my XLT does not have it. Fully adjustable seating makes for comfort on long road trips and many of us use our Super Duties for such purposes. I do not understand why Ford is doing this, while the new Chevrolets have all kinds of adjustments available
on their middle and upper level trim packages.
My dealer of course says no problem getting it, just wait 10-12 weeks. But it appears from some of the past posts, that the wait is much more than that.
What are the other dealers telling the rest of you, and are they telling you which options may be hard to get and may hold up the order.
Also, has anybody found a web site that list the changes that will be on the 2000 model year.
Regards
Jon
Mike
i always check here.. question:
i had always thought that the final gear ratio was
the axle ratio, but i'm wrong, so where's it at?
and in proportion to what? i.e. [1-4]:final:axle?
Ed
Has anyone dealt with these people? They tell me to expect around 20 weeks delivery. I've read the horror stories of guys caught in this position who have to place new orders and start from scratch after waiting long periods.
Anyone know whom I can call at Ford and ask about these guys?
Red
I agreed to pay $1500 over invoice, its sounds like I paid to much compared to what I have seen posted, but then again I think most dealers will be asking for more for these trucks because they have become so popular.
Has anybody in CA been able to get a CA spec V10 with a limited rear end in a 3.73. The dealer told me I can only get a 4.30 rear end with limited and V10. That sucks!
Somebody posted that the Goodyear LT305/70R16 will fit on the stock 7.5 inch rims. The tire is designed to work on a 8 inch rim. Is this save and has any body tried it with a heavy load like a camper.
BTW - I ended up buying one off a lot in Nevada without the CA emissions. Contrary to what many people think, you can register any vehicle in CA as long as it passes the federal standards. You have to pay a one time $300 fee to register it the first time - somewhat more than the emissions package costs (about $150, I think).
Check out the following links for more info:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/faq/faq5.htm#2558
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/faq/faq3.htm#BM2540
None of this is explained on the website.