The bed on one of the SR5's at the local dealer was clearly misaligned by almost 2" I noticed that the bed seemed to extend way too far past the cab on the passenger side. A check of the driver side showed that it was almost 2" on the inside of the cab. I pointed this out to the salesman and he suggested it was due to the pavement being uneven. Has anyone seen any really obvious quality control problems such as this one? I really was suprised. Maybe it would be best to wait a few months so they can work out some of the bugs.
Before those who make all the claims of superority for the big three, they should at least own some of their products and a Tundra as well. If you have had first hand Tundra problems that's of interest to the group. If you're trying to convince yourself that your big three piece of crap was the right purchase for you keep working on it. I don't think you've convinced yourself and for sure you haven't convinced anyone else. Go work on telling the folks who are posting on the Chevy, Dodge and Ford topic sites that they are imagining their problems. All the talk in the world won't get broken and worn parts to run again.
Now I'm not saying that you can't get a fair number of miles out of the big three products, just that they will cost you a lot more in repairs and down time.
The V8 is out of a Lexus. There are plenty of them out there with over 100,000 miles that run like brand new. I don't know the transmission design history, but I think that it should last as long as the engine. Time and service will be the test. From what I've seen so far, I know that Tundra owners will have the last laugh.
Those tindra owners will not laugh that last one in post 548, just listen to them laughing not! When the haul is done that Mexican build lexzy V8 gives it up for sure. What about that thin metal on the body, does it thicken with age? I don't think that tindra will last the test of the time, do you? For all those yet to buy, do the compare and get the Chevrolet for the haul. For other who have that tindra now best trade em before the word gets out, good luck to all on this one.
"The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia. What Toyota calls the i-Force V-8, this 4.7-liter motor generates 245 horsepower and 315 pound-feet of torque."
Unless they have moved West Verginia I don't think it is in Mexico
That motor is "assembled" in West Virginia (something I would try to keep quiet if I were Toyota). The foundry and tin works take place in good old Mexico. Franklin know this as the fact, and Franklin know the trucks! That limited one could compare more fair against a Chevrolet S10, thou I think that S10 has more haul in it. What about that thin metal body? Don't think the salt have much trouble with that. Lets see them swiss cheese toys next spring!
Do that compare, don't join those others in post 548 with the tindra blues. The facts are speaking for themselves now! For all others, sell em quick before the word gets out. Good luck on this one.
Saw 3 of those tindra ones on the used lot at the Chevrolet dealer. Dealer saids they getting dumped quicker now. One was that limited spoke on in earlier post. One was broke from the haul. Last one had the hail damage. What say to this one? Word is startin to get out quick on this one now. Franklin said he heard a new one today: "Tindra purgatory", called the time till that lease runs down. Others heard this one yet?
I have had my new Tundra about 4 weeks. I have 1600 miles on it. My Question is, Has anyone noticed hard shifting in the tranny between first and second gears under light acceleration? I have a 4x2 SR-5 V8. I notice that after it's warmed up, normal stoplight to stoplight driving produces a very rough shift from first to second. The subsequent shifts are flawless.
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
Second. When I was considering my purchase this forum was extremely helpful. Postings from TP4UNC and EOSTER and several others were informative and timely. There was a substantial amount of info on price, options, dealer availability, etc... All of which assisted me in my purchase.
I have just read through the last 80 or so posts and it has turned into a CHEVY or FORD vs. TOYOTA battle.
There must be other forums for that sort of thing, and if so, that's where that discussion needs to go.
I think we should keep this forum for discussions by current and prospective Tundra owners.
Look at post 548, many seem to have mystery problems with that trannie. Sounds like just another broke one here. The word is gettin out quicker now. Maybe that trannie comes from Mexico too? Ask Franklin on this one, he know the trucks better than most. Sorry could not have educated you better the first time, hope others will take heed and learn by this one. Do the compare, be for-warned! That toyota will take the money quick, mask the problems. Some say they seed the forums earlier, maybe some truth on this one.
No roughs shifts here...at least that I've noticed. I'll check this afternoon to confirm. I agree this forum should get back to the informative forum it once was. Several MORONS have entered to bash the Tundra and I (and a few others) probably got a little carried away with our responses. I PROMISE to only respond to legitimate posts in the future and ignore posts by those people who would get taller after taking Viagra.
Lets just pump the sunshine from now on, ok? Not warn others on breakage. If its bad, keep it quiet, good lets talk it up. Maybe those in post 548 didn't want to learn the truth? Maybe no one wants to know real truth on that limited.
ok here goes:
That limited one is fine, it will haul and not break, that driveshaft is large enough, that engine is good Mexican V8. That thin sheetmetal last longer than the thicker ones. That trannie shift hard, but good one anyway. That twisted bed is set right too! Its a big full sizer, just an illusion that it looks smaller than other ones.
From now on only sunshine, we fool a bunch of em. No one notice if we talk it right.
Now I've heard the trannie, bed and metal on the Tundra are all tin. Maybe so but it sure didn't feel like that on the test drive. I punched this thing hard and stopped it hard, just like my 4Runner and it felt even better, scared salesrep but he liked my trade-in so Tundra LTD on the way. I'll be banging this thing offroad much and let you all know how it goes. No haulin, nothing but climbing, biking and hiking gear. If I like it enough I'll start a Tundra discussion board on one of my sites with much better organization then this crappo and I hope rubluetoo keeps on coming cause his Mark Twainish style has really grown on me.
A compare between that 4runner and that tindra about even. Toy to toy they come out the same evey time. Should try that compare on the Chevrolet to that limited one. With the limited haul you have planned, that tindra should do you fine for now. Watch that thin metal off the road, Franklin heard tell of the bending of one not so long ago. The factory is tryin to shut down this free speech on that tindra, they only like to hear good spoken for on those limited ones. Good luck on that limited off the road.
Two weeks ago I traded my 1997 ford lariat 4x4 supercab for a 2000 tundra sr5 4x4 access cab. I owned the ford for 42 months and had two problems during my ownership. One problem involved the autolock 4x4 which resulted in no wheel drive and the other was a broken shock. Dealer service was great and local. When the Tundra was introduced I tried one out and soon decided to trade. The Tundra now has 1200 miles on it. I can't believe how smooth the engine runs and how quiet the cab is. The Tundra is faster from the get go and is very nimble. It is less cumbersome to drive and easier to park. So far my gas mileage has been between 18-19 miles per gallon with a mixture of city and highway driving. I do miss the Ford's auto lamps and bed rails but I would highly recommend a Tundra purchase for those of you out there looking.
Good design isn't measured by weight, but by function. If you make sheet metal 10% thicker you only result in reduced damage at minimum impact at best. Better design, better alloys and better paints reduce corrosion and increase strength.
Have you ever looked at a Chevy, Ford, or Chrysler drive shaft? They are starting to rust at the dealer. Tundras have coated drive shafts. The brake lines are also coated. Look like the Tundra is on the right track.
The size of that tindra dictates it be more nimble. The little ones more nimble but fragile. That tindra is on the size of the Chevrolet S10. Give that little one the haul, and soon you get what they call the slip and burn, after that trade it up to the full sizer Chevrolet. See earlier posts on those that tried the haul, facts are facts now. Good luck on that ford trade now.
Them earlier ones who brough that tindra complained on that thin metal. They bent em up good then found out the truth on it to late. Just getin the word out before the factory puts an end to free speech on it. They want only the good say about those limited ones. Never heard the one on that driveshaft rust-out, sounds like a new one to me. Any one heard on this before? Seems odd that Franklin don't know on it, and he know them trucks good.
hey rubass...I see that you changed your profile..so your email address isn't visible anymore...what's the matter????? Are you hiding something? Hey did anyone pick it up before haul boy pulled it..sounds like your afraid of something...?
The Tundra facts: 1. Engine built in Japan. 2. Auto Transmission is built in Japan. 3. If the "big three" has an attitude like RubberToe, they will loose large portions of their truck market share to other manufactures: just like they have lost significant portions of their passenger car markets in the past 20 years to those foreigners. 4. You cant hide if you use the internet.
This is a quote from the San Jose Mercury News "The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia."
Franklin concurs on this one - thou carveats it with that Mexico foundry - claims them engines just assembled in that new plant not "built".
Which it is now? Maybe the factory trying to keep those who know confused? Looks like another one of them mysteries here. Look out for those factory posts here, they will supress the truth.
Its seems that the truth upsets many here. I mean no offense to the owners, no need for snippy ways. I'm up in that age, just tryin to let those learn the whole one here. Sorry if it upsets those who support that factory. Matters litte now, the factory will shut this down soon anyway. They only want the good tell you know.
Just heard from that factory now. Franklin says they steamin pretty good on these facts and we must go low profile or face those factory hounds.
Hope I helped those not in know, for others, sorry if that truth is upsettin to all. The factory would have pulled the plug on this one soon anyway, they only want the good tell ya know.
Well, now that I totally ignore any of the notes from "Rude Blu whats his A##" I made record time going through the last 45 messages.
I did want folks to know that I made an offer on a 2 wheel drive V8 Access Cab- listed at $24,700. My offer $22,800, their best price $23900. Needless to say, I walked.
Another dealer (70 miles away) has offered me the same vehicle at $23,145- providing I order it.
This really is an excellent forum to gather pre or post purchase info on Tundras. Legitimate info both good and bad are of interest. After all, this is a first year model.
In some of the other forums the moderator will restrict obviously disruptive posts. Until then just ignore the Chevy vs Toyota garbage.
I work for a large organization that has owned numerous Chevy and Ford trucks that have to haul airboats and 22' boats long distances. They break down more often than not. Transmission problems, engine problems, electrical problems, etc., resulting in costly repairs. Many of my friends own Ford F150s and after 15-20K miles, they rattle, things fall off etc.
I now own a Tundra with 3200 miles on it and it hauls my 20'Whaler, weight around 2,800 pounds, just fine. I can even pass other cars while hauling it. This is my fourth Toyota (Tercel, 2WD PU, and 2 4WD PUs (one four cylinder, the other 6 cylinder). Other than the head gasket replaced by Toyota at 70,000 miles for free on the 6 cylinder, I never had any trouble with all of them. Note, when you watch the Discovery Channel or TLC, and they show exotic places, such as Africa or South America, where there are few well kept roads. You see nothing but Toyotas, not Chevys or Fords, or Dodges. In Costa Rica, I drove around in a Toyota 4x4 pu that had more than 250,000 miles on it and it didn't rattle, despite being driven on barely existing roads. The owner told me that the only thing he did to it was to change the oil every 3-4k miles. And he replaced the shocks once. Sure, like most Americans, I want American car-makers to make good quality trucks and vehicles. Now, they have improved, but for my money, you still can't beat Toyota for long-term quality. Maybe someday Detroit will realize this and then you will see their products around the world where there are few roads.
FYI, Rub-yourself-blue's e-mail address is: rubluetoo@yahoo.com. He haul no more. He truck broke. He want Tundra. He can't afford. He don't like people that have Tundra. He can't even spell TUNDRA. It's here to stay Rub get used to it! I'd venture a guess as to why Rub Himsef's truck ain't haulin' no more but the Chevy broke list is so long.
My local bedliner distributor says he sells a mat to fit between a drop in bedliner and the truck bed. He says it eliminates the rubbing and sanding effect of the bed paint. He also says it will not absorb water. Anybody tried one?
I am in the process of ordering my SR5 access cab V8 4x4 Tundra. Can anybody tell me the difference between the class III and class IV hitches? Do they look different or is the function that much different? I am going to be hauling my 2000 lb boat and occasionally a utility trailer with bark/dirt etc. Is one better than the other? Thanks in advance for anyones response.
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Hey, does anybody know the difference between the CA and the 48 ST model. If the Tundra is suppose to be a Low Emissions Vehicle, why is there a difference.
Hey Bobby Joe, if your Franklin knows so much about 'Tindra's', why don't you actually make yourself useful and ask him what's the difference. By the way, I'm picking up my Tundra tonight, and I'll get back to you on the drive line dimension.
Sorry to hear that you don't spend any time reading anything on other boards besides the Toyota ones.
And yes, powercat, I am here trying to learn something. Just my humble opinion that a good decision is an informed one, so I have been trying to check out all the competition that is out there in the full-size class.
By the way, hope you don't just avoid other boards. There are some posters who put messages up that are not worth your time. Hope you avoid those too.
After having owned 3 GM trucks, 2 Fords, and a Datsun I'd say I have made an informed decision. Granted, it took several tries to get it right but I gave the Big 2 plenty of opportunity but every purchase got gradually worse, noisier, more trips to the mechanic, 3 bad paint jobs, and on and on and on. After purchasing a T-100 and a Previa van that was all the informed decision I needed to buy a Tundra. Nothing Ford, Chrysler, or GM could do now would impress me, period. You don't have to be kicked in the head to know it hurts. YOU can be as informed as you want without criticizing others for making the right decision.
You could go by, "blackcat" for bad luck. The last two Toyotas you purchased, the T-100 and Previa, are no longer in production. Hope the Tundra doesn't disappear too - I was hoping Toyota would get a chance to improve it before they decide to scrap it.
When I criticize a car maker's design, or question a posters reasoning, I'm digging for answers, run to mama if you feel personally criticized.
In using this message board I'm motivated to build an "unofficial" tundra message board at one of my sites and was wondering if anyone has seen any Tundra message boards other than this. The problem with this one is it does not separate threads making looking for a response to a question cumbersome. Also, those who feel obligated to hurl insults would have their messages contained to the subject at hand.
Sorry, even if you go to the other Tundra topics (778 and 866) they are full of Toyota bashers, too! I suppose all the topics available which apply to their own makes' problems are not enough to satisfy them. Beware of some goober named Rubluetoo; he is a very brain-damaged individual and needs lots of therapy. Of course, he's a Chevy man!
I'm refering to a completely different board such as those I've seen for the Nissan Xterra where the discussions are threaded so, for example, someone creates a thread saying "Chevy's Suck" in which further posts supporting or countering that notion would be contained to that thread. I'm building one now and I'll post it here once done. (20 minutes or so)
Maybe you spend so much time here, because your "Shietvrolet is in the shop hu?" "Like a rock" I agree with that, heavy and rough.
Get a life mister! If you can afford a Tundra, just let us know, If my Tundra brakes, I ll buy another one, probbably you only can buy a truck once every ten years. LOL.
This message board was just born. I may publish it so it registers with search engines however that's $20. Please use it as it threads making topics more organized. I may even palce your tundra's snapshot there if responce is encouraging. (yes, rubluetoo is invited too)
Hit a nerve with that last one huh Mill? They don't make the C-4 Corvette any more either (BTW (that means by the way Lex) thats the only decent thing to ever come out of GM), they just refine it and make it better like the Sienna and the Tundra ( you fell right into that one). Maybe GM or Ford or the others will learn that someday. The Mamma remark just shows everyone why you're really here and what you're really made of, so keep whining and name calling because like Steve McQueen said in Tom Horn,"that's all I have to say on this matter."
To more important matters, does anyone have an opinion on the fold down arm rest on the bench seat option? Also has anyone ordered the Tundra front end bra and what do you think?
My wife owns a perfect 1999 4Runner we got in April.I Have owned 5 Toyotas. I looked at the 2000 Tundra at 7 Dealers in a 50 mi. radius last week. It seems you either get this equipment or that equipment. 2 choices, that's it. 3 trucks was the most I saw anywhere. I wanted a 4 wheel drive x-cab with a bench seat. I also didn't want to wait 2 months. "Impossible" is what most dealers told me. I now own my 1st Chevrolet. So far so good.
I e-mailed Borla today for info on a cat-back system. They responded within an hour by e-mail and confirmed a system is available. Supposedly have a fax waiting for me at my office with pricing. Anyone try a Borla system on ANY vehicle? If so, let me know what you think. Thanks.
would like more info on the eclipse units, I could not find them, 5441 head, 3640 amp, boston Sc61 speakers? Did you buy them over the internet? Mail order?
Planning on installing an Extang Saber tonneau and Line-X spray in bed liner. I've never had either product. Anybody have any experience with either one?
We took it on a small trip, and it is pretty nice. Read most of the #'s you posted, but that seems to be certain set-ups on most. The set-up I got for 26,500 is now looking like a steal. Wasn't sure of the popularity of the 285HP 5.3, but it is a wanted machine. I'm confident I got one of them "built on Wednesday reliable ones".
Since you're so happy with your new chevy I guess the question is what R U doing on a Toyota message board? yes, i know it's a free country but my guess is you're still justifying your purchase by looking for trash on the Tundra. You won't find legitimate trash here but when you rattle that Chevy loose and try to trade it in and find out you're way upside down on your loan cause Chevy's have the worst resale value of 'em all you'll know then that you made mistake. Chevy's are great for the first 5k miles, after that it's anyone's guess.
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I really was suprised. Maybe it would be best to wait a few months so they can work out some of the bugs.
Tom
Now I'm not saying that you can't get a fair number of miles out of the big three products, just that they will cost you a lot more in repairs and down time.
The V8 is out of a Lexus. There are plenty of them out there with over 100,000 miles that run like brand new. I don't know the transmission design history, but I think that it should last as long as the engine. Time and service will be the test. From what I've seen so far, I know that Tundra owners will have the last laugh.
in post 548, just listen to them laughing not!
When the haul is done that Mexican build lexzy
V8 gives it up for sure. What about that thin
metal on the body, does it thicken with age?
I don't think that tindra will last the test
of the time, do you? For all those yet to buy,
do the compare and get the Chevrolet for the haul.
For other who have that tindra now best trade em
before the word gets out, good luck to all on
this one.
"The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia. What Toyota calls the i-Force V-8, this 4.7-liter motor generates 245 horsepower and 315 pound-feet of torque."
Unless they have moved West Verginia I don't think it is in Mexico
(something I would try to keep quiet if I
were Toyota). The foundry and tin works take
place in good old Mexico. Franklin know this as
the fact, and Franklin know the trucks! That
limited one could compare more fair against a
Chevrolet S10, thou I think that S10 has more
haul in it. What about that thin metal body?
Don't think the salt have much trouble with that.
Lets see them swiss cheese toys next spring!
Do that compare, don't join those others in post
548 with the tindra blues. The facts are speaking for themselves now! For all others,
sell em quick before the word gets out. Good
luck on this one.
the Chevrolet dealer. Dealer saids they getting
dumped quicker now. One was that limited spoke
on in earlier post. One was broke from the haul.
Last one had the hail damage. What say to this
one? Word is startin to get out quick on this one now. Franklin said he heard a new one today:
"Tindra purgatory", called the time till that
lease runs down. Others heard this one yet?
I have had my new Tundra about 4 weeks. I have 1600 miles on it. My Question is, Has anyone noticed hard shifting in the tranny between first and second gears under light acceleration? I have a 4x2 SR-5 V8. I notice that after it's warmed up, normal stoplight to stoplight driving produces a very rough shift from first to second. The subsequent shifts are flawless.
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
Second. When I was considering my purchase this forum was extremely helpful. Postings from TP4UNC and EOSTER and several others were informative and timely. There was a substantial amount of info on price, options, dealer availability, etc...
All of which assisted me in my purchase.
I have just read through the last 80 or so posts and it has turned into a CHEVY or FORD vs. TOYOTA battle.
There must be other forums for that sort of thing, and if so, that's where that discussion needs to go.
I think we should keep this forum for discussions by current and prospective Tundra owners.
Thanks,,,, NASCAR
problems with that trannie. Sounds like just
another broke one here. The word is gettin out
quicker now. Maybe that trannie comes from
Mexico too? Ask Franklin on this one, he know
the trucks better than most. Sorry could not
have educated you better the first time, hope
others will take heed and learn by this one.
Do the compare, be for-warned! That toyota will
take the money quick, mask the problems. Some
say they seed the forums earlier, maybe some
truth on this one.
Not warn others on breakage. If its bad, keep
it quiet, good lets talk it up. Maybe those in
post 548 didn't want to learn the truth? Maybe
no one wants to know real truth on that limited.
ok here goes:
That limited one is fine, it will haul and not
break, that driveshaft is large enough, that engine is good Mexican V8. That thin sheetmetal last longer than the thicker ones. That trannie shift hard, but good one anyway. That twisted bed is set right too! Its a big full sizer, just an illusion that it looks smaller than other ones.
From now on only sunshine, we fool a bunch of em.
No one notice if we talk it right.
about even. Toy to toy they come out the same
evey time. Should try that compare on the
Chevrolet to that limited one. With the limited haul you have planned, that tindra should do you
fine for now. Watch that thin metal off the road,
Franklin heard tell of the bending of one not so
long ago. The factory is tryin to shut down
this free speech on that tindra, they only like
to hear good spoken for on those limited ones.
Good luck on that limited off the road.
passes good tindra news along too:
Tundra makes History:
Chalking up 4565 in the first week, with another
5000 already on order, the Tundra has the fastest
sales start of any new product in Toyota history.
Have you ever looked at a Chevy, Ford, or Chrysler drive shaft? They are starting to rust at the dealer. Tundras have coated drive shafts. The brake lines are also coated. Look like the Tundra is on the right track.
nimble. The little ones more nimble but fragile.
That tindra is on the size of the Chevrolet S10.
Give that little one the haul, and soon you get what they call the slip and burn, after that
trade it up to the full sizer Chevrolet. See
earlier posts on those that tried the haul,
facts are facts now. Good luck on that ford trade now.
complained on that thin metal. They bent em
up good then found out the truth on it to late.
Just getin the word out before the factory puts
an end to free speech on it. They want only the good say about those limited ones. Never heard
the one on that driveshaft rust-out, sounds like a new one to me. Any one heard on this before? Seems odd that Franklin don't know on it, and he know them trucks good.
1. Engine built in Japan.
2. Auto Transmission is built in Japan.
3. If the "big three" has an attitude like RubberToe, they will loose large portions of their truck market share to other manufactures: just like they have lost significant portions of their passenger car markets in the past 20 years to those foreigners.
4. You cant hide if you use the internet.
This is a quote from the San Jose Mercury News
"The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at
Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia."
Franklin concurs on this one - thou carveats it with that Mexico foundry - claims them engines just assembled in that new plant not "built".
Which it is now? Maybe the factory trying to
keep those who know confused? Looks like another
one of them mysteries here. Look out for those
factory posts here, they will supress the truth.
Its seems that the truth upsets many here. I
mean no offense to the owners, no need for snippy
ways. I'm up in that age, just tryin to let
those learn the whole one here. Sorry if it
upsets those who support that factory. Matters
litte now, the factory will shut this down soon
anyway. They only want the good tell you know.
they steamin pretty good on these facts and we
must go low profile or face those factory hounds.
Hope I helped those not in know, for others, sorry
if that truth is upsettin to all. The factory
would have pulled the plug on this one soon
anyway, they only want the good tell ya know.
Good luck to all and God bless.
I did want folks to know that I made an offer on a 2 wheel drive V8 Access Cab- listed at $24,700. My offer $22,800, their best price $23900. Needless to say, I walked.
Another dealer (70 miles away) has offered me the same vehicle at $23,145- providing I order it.
In some of the other forums the moderator will restrict obviously disruptive posts. Until then just ignore the Chevy vs Toyota garbage.
I now own a Tundra with 3200 miles on it and it hauls my 20'Whaler, weight around 2,800 pounds, just fine. I can even pass other cars while hauling it. This is my fourth Toyota (Tercel, 2WD PU, and 2 4WD PUs (one four cylinder, the other 6 cylinder). Other than the head gasket replaced by Toyota at 70,000 miles for free on the 6 cylinder, I never had any trouble with all of them. Note, when you watch the Discovery Channel or TLC, and they show exotic places, such as Africa or South America, where there are few well kept roads. You see nothing but Toyotas, not Chevys or Fords, or Dodges. In Costa Rica, I drove around in a Toyota 4x4 pu that had more than 250,000 miles on it and it didn't rattle, despite being driven on barely existing roads. The owner told me that the only thing he did to it was to change the oil every 3-4k miles. And he replaced the shocks once. Sure, like most Americans, I want American car-makers to make good quality trucks and vehicles. Now, they have improved, but for my money, you still can't beat Toyota for long-term quality. Maybe someday Detroit will realize this and then you will see their products around the world where there are few roads.
Thanks in advance for anyones response.
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Hey Bobby Joe, if your Franklin knows so much about 'Tindra's', why don't you actually make yourself useful and ask him what's the difference. By the way, I'm picking up my Tundra tonight, and I'll get back to you on the drive line dimension.
And yes, powercat, I am here trying to learn something. Just my humble opinion that a good decision is an informed one, so I have been trying to check out all the competition that is out there in the full-size class.
By the way, hope you don't just avoid other boards. There are some posters who put messages up that are not worth your time. Hope you avoid those too.
When I criticize a car maker's design, or question a posters reasoning, I'm digging for answers, run to mama if you feel personally criticized.
"Shietvrolet is in the shop hu?"
"Like a rock" I agree with that, heavy and rough.
Get a life mister! If you can afford a Tundra, just let us know, If my Tundra brakes, I ll buy another one, probbably you only can buy a truck once every ten years. LOL.
try:
www.tundratoys.com
This message board was just born. I may publish it so it registers with search engines however that's $20. Please use it as it threads making topics more organized. I may even palce your tundra's snapshot there if responce is encouraging. (yes, rubluetoo is invited too)
The Mamma remark just shows everyone why you're really here and what you're really made of, so keep whining and name calling because like Steve McQueen said in Tom Horn,"that's all I have to say on this matter."
To more important matters, does anyone have an opinion on the fold down arm rest on the bench seat option? Also has anyone ordered the Tundra front end bra and what do you think?