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I draw the conclusion that it is most probable to occur on mid to large 2WD trucks. I've heard that rack and pinion steering can amplify the wheel vibrations as there is very little damping through the steering mechanism as compared to a steering system with recirculating balls.
When Toyota starts talking about a heavier steering wheel - stay clear as they have just begun to start to analyze the problem and are grasping for a quick fix. Increasing mass is an old trick but it doesn't address the root of the problem.
Also, 4WD trucks have drive axels that are spinning to create an inertial force which opposes lateral wheel movement. This may explain why I've not heard of many (any) complaints about the vibration from the 4WD Tundra owners.
Solution: start with the optimal wheel tire combination, keep it round and balanced. From there - Toyota (Short term) will can mess with alignment, steering and wheel bearing pre-load adjustments. After that, its serious engineering time where it takes a year or two to fix it and get the fix into production.
1)The Toyota reputation for quality and service backed up by a 5 year 60K powertrain Warrantee.
2)An amazing engine that runs like a banshee with gobs of good ole American torque while screaming let's go faster even when it get high in the rev range. It does all this with a nice stock mellow exaust note and the precision of a swiss watch.
3)The quality feel to every component in the truck. No rattles, no squeaks, no shudders over bumps. I mean I have never driven a truck so tight.
Now I am a Chevy guy so I can expound the virtues of the Silverado too, but right now the Silverado is having just too many problems. Dodge technology is so old and their build quality is spotty at best. Ford makes a good truck, no denying that. Hell Toyota pretty much took all there cues from the F150 for the Tundra. Just don't care for Fords and the Tundra definitely feels better than the Ford. Like I said I really believe the Tundra is the best personal vehicle on the market. If Lexus made a pickup this would be it.
BTW the Chevy may have 4 wheel disc brakes but the brakes on the Tundra definitly are up to the task, probably the best feeling brakes I have ever felt in a truck. No regrets here whatsoever.
I also live in Houston. I would buy the Tundra $1,000 over invoice any day.
I'll try Mike Calvert tomorrow morning.
tell from the news (there tell not mine):
The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia.
Here is the link per Franklin:
http://www.auto.com/reviews/sj_0708_tundra.htm
Franklin knows them trucks better than most! Franklin claims them engines assembled in that
West Virinia plant by them good ol'boys, but that
foundry can be found south of the border
in Mexico. Don't know about that Mexico tell,
but looks like them engines are a comin from
WV and not that island factory as told by some who say they have the know.
Lets not here no weepin over this now. Just pushin out a little truth thats all. For them
who have the problem with the truth, don't come
cryin my way! For them that say that engine comes
from the island, back up your tell with a link way
I did mine. Good luck on this one now!
On my Limited 4x4, I have optional rear-view mirror with the compass and ambient temperature gauge.
Rubblemouth: PLEASE shutup with this engine fantasy of yours. Things have been so pleasant while you were "supposedly" gone!
in the US of A one is allowed a response. If you
have the know about that tindra engine origin,
jump on it, just back it up with that link if
you claim it be from the island as framehog does. If you just weepin about the truth, weep to some
other one than me sonny! What say? Can anybody back up with a link where that tindra
engine comes from? I here nothin but weepin on
this one. Good luck with that Mexican foundry lexzy V8 assembled in West Virginia by them good ol'boys now!
Just responin to post #910 Al, dry them eyes!
As far as the Chevy vs. Ford, the Chevy has the
slightly larger dimension, but big 3 all be
about dimension uniformed (within about 1/2 inch) with that smaller tindra behind them. I guess you speak of the SD Ford, now that one is bigger,
or maybe all that weapin made it hard for them eyes to see on that truck size now?
Don't have an anwser on that Chevy built in Canada
vs US, I see if Franklin has any tell on it.
Guess them Mexican tindra lexzy V8 is built in West Virginia by them good ol'boys, since I hear
nothin but weapin on this one. Good luck on
them engines now!
Maybe the engine is built in WVa with Mexican components but all I know is that it will outlast any Chevy engine, and that's a fact. Try getting a couple hundred thousand miles on a GM product, no way bud. Good luck on that one now.
Come on, admit it! You really are working for Toyota aren't you?
from WV Albert? You typical thinkin that way
sonny. I just statin the fact on that engine, in
a reply to framehog, and you think this is
a cut? You ain't got the smarts of a shoe if
you thinkin that way Albert. I not say that
tindra engine bad - go back and read the post
whine baby. I just respond that framehog mistaken on that engine tell, pull up your pants now eveyone, cause looks like a flood of tears
startin on this one. Now as far as Mexico, this
just another fact on that foundry, got nothin to
do with any Mexican folks. You tindra ones have
a good imagination, say that much for ya, now if you all can just grow up alitte.
Still heard nothin on that engine origin, just alot of whinein, what say framehog, you suppose to work from the belly of that beast, what say on this engine origin? Back it up with the link, lets keep the truth on this one now.
Good luck on that toyota? engine now!
opinion on this or that. I never seen so many
sissies like I have on this forum.
Franklin
Bob Jones
Charleston, SC
Just ask around, I'm not hard to find.....
As the international boundaries get blurred, the ultimate quality of products we by is more dependent on corporate culture than place of origin.
now, have only Franklin's tell on it. I agree,
on the weight of words, should back it up with some links or something. As far as the engine origin, Franklin tells it from WV, and I did find some back up on this from them San Jose Mercury News folks. Not seen any backup (links) as to that island claim yet. If that engine built in WV with Mexican steel (block), I not sayin this bad, I agree with eoster, this here is a global place we live in now. If I find that Mexican foundry fact some place on this here web, I will post it up now. Good luck on this one here!
Are you actually challenging someone to fight over the Tundra engine issue?
This has turned into the most immature string of responses on a forum I have seen in some time. I do believe that constructive criticism is appropriate here, but neither you or rubluetoo have anything useful to say in my estimation. All you serve to do is attempt to stirr up controversy where there isn't any
P.S. I live in Charleston and I have never heard of you.
I don't believe everything I read. I believe in the US Customs Department and the Country of Origin content sheet on truck. Framehog knows much more than he is willing to share........
Call Toyota and they'll gladly tell you the country of origin for the engine and tranny!
Rubletoo: you should grow up and backup your words with actions (you said you'd leave this post). Now grow up and get along......
btw: he rode in my tundra and drove it and loves it.
As far as I know, the only steel from a Mexican foundry in the Tundra is in the rear leaf springs. The only leaf springs produced in North America come from Mexico. This includes Ford, Chevy and Dodge.
p.s. you guys are gonna love the sport ute build on the Tundra frame.
#2- No one was/has been "weepin" about our engines. You and Franklin have been doing all the "cryin". YOU broke your promise by returning to this forum and continue to spew false claims. In essence, you called framehog a liar and HE works at the Tundra factory (If I were to tell you that Michelin owns Uniroyal and BF Goodrich, would you imply that I am a liar, too?). Others here have stated TRUE facts as to the origin of the engine. Now, Franklin has resorted to threats of violence.
While you were absent from these Tundra topics, everything was so pleasant and peaceful. See how one person (two, if you count Franklin) can ruin it for everybody. You don't have ANY vested interest in a Toyota Tundra; why would you waste the few remaining years of your life here? In the end, this will not matter at all!
Happy trails.
Several posts back you called me a "putz" for associating your name to Rube. Then said "there's know way I'm that country hick or fool".
Franklin, you're a liar and have not one ounce of credibility here. You can't possibly make any meaningful contribution. Why don't you take you and your grand-dady on over to the Chevy conference. Your wealth of knowledge and fantasy will be much appreciated there.
Also, a compass/temperature mirror is also an option ($199) on trucks from this distributor. Talk to Learie Wells of Stewart Toyota, North Palm Beach. Great guy, good deals, just too far from me.
Depending on who you talk to, a hitch is available on 33% of limiteds. Some EPA weight thing. Other dealers say, none at all. You can get the factory wiring harness and add your own hitch. Toyota doesn't make the hitches anyway.
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Why should I care that people from WV built the engine????
mind reader now. Good luck figurin it out now!
Just curious, is Toyota coming out with a Tundra crewcab anytime soon? That back seat on the Xtended cab is just OK; too straight up to be comfortable for long. I need a truck but also have a family to haul around.
P.S. - just ignore rubluetoo & his silly comments. After a while, I got no idea what he is saying. At first, he seemed to imply that it must be BAD that Tundra parts & engines are made in Japan (i.e. Tundras are not really "made in America"). Then, later, Rubluetoo seemed to imply that it must also be BAD that Tundra engines may eventually be made in the USA/Mexico (does it mean that made-in-USA products are generally inferior?? That would go against what I thought was Rubluetoo's position!!).
I read his posts with amusement. I owned a small Japanese made truck - 91 Mazda B2600i with a 5-spd transmission. Throw a slide-in camper on top of it; hook up a small bass boat behind it. Hauled the camper/boat all over Colorado, over mountain passes. Not once, but lots of times all summer long. AND IT NEVER BROKE, NOT EVEN ONCE!! If my little truck can do that, I am sure that a Tundra can do 10 times better.
I got nothing against Chevy. My uncle drives Chevy. His seems to run OK, but he usually trades his in at around 60K miles. I always wonder though if his Chevy will still be running well, at say 120K - 200K miles. I am confident that a Toyota would.
And finally, I can't imagine them good ole boys in West Virginia are that much different from them good ole boys in South Carolina. Give those WV guys a break!
.. my 2 cents worth ...
/BOSI