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Why you ask??
No dent resistant doors. The #1 reason to buy a Saturn --- NO RUST. #2 reason, no haggle. But I personally will not buy one after this. I'll probably get another VUE when the time comes.
Big disappointment Saturn. For the first time with this company, I feel let down!
apriloli, if GM can keep you in any Saturn, be it the Rebate or the VUE, trust me, they'll take it. So while you may be disappointed, and understandbily so because this new mini wont meet your specs, GM wont, because you're still buying their product.
~alpha
Combine it with CR-V sales and they probably beat the Escape/Tribute.
I'm sure the steel is galvanized, maybe even double-galvanize (both sides). But you'll still get dings.
-juice
Element sales are indeed falling off. The Honda die hards bought in but the thing is weird looking and there are lots of better small SUV choices including CRV.
Saturn van is kind of strange. GM has never giving the division a badge engineered product. Probably was not a good idea for a different kind of company..
Mileage should be similar to the current van's 19/27 rating. I don't see that as bad for a van.
This should help sales. I guess GM has watched the Freestar and figured out that these four vans may be in trouble.
Hummm?
Not curtains, but better than nothing.
Standard DVD systems, 4 wheel discs with ABS and available remote start. Some good stuff on these vans. Still happy with our 04 Montana though.
If GM can get vans out with street prices under $25k, that'll help sales.
Mileage will be another selling point. The 3500 in the Malibu is very fuel efficient. It might even improve from the 19/27 ratings of the current vans.
So there are your two sellings points - DVD and gas mileage.
-juice
I would guess a pricing theory simular to the one Chrysler tried. Base MSRPs closer to the current transaction prices. And Chevrolet low, Pontiac slightly higher, and Buick higher with higher content.
-juice
What will sell this vehicle:
Remote start, standard DVD system, gas mileage, cool options like phat noise and a decent price point. This is what GM should focus marketing on. Buick vans should be loaded up standard because there is no other way to get a premium out of a badge engineered Terazza.
GM's street prices had better beat those, because resale has been comparatively poor vs. the Odyssey.
Of course those prices are temporary, when the new Ody comes out they'll jump back up a coupe of grand at least.
-juice
The storage pockets in the back of all four seats look neat. In the pic they're storing headphones for the DVD, and they look wireless.
The one pictured had the two trays between the seats, too. DVD and a first aid kit in the overhead track.
I can also see seperate temp knobs for driver and passenger, and vents all over the roof for the 2nd and 3rd rows. 3rd row middle belt is built-in to the seat, which IMO is nice.
Ultrasonic rear parking aid is listed as an option, as are AWD and StabiliTrak (I wonder if you can get both, combined). Remote start listed as an option.
MP3 player standard, nice. DVD optional, XM also.
May be nothing new but thought I'd share.
They didn't have pricing info yet, but the funny thing is she insisted it was not a minivan but an SUV. I should have said I wanted a minivan and then walked. ;-)
-juice
The new Ody with cylinder deactivation may take the fuel economy crown, or the GM vans will, let's see.
-juice
~alpha
MP3 standard is nice. I wish all companies would do that. My PC is full of MP3s and I can't use them in the car (yet).
I realize the GM vans give up some HP but torque is still adequate and they may get better EPA numbers than the yoda.
-juice
-juice
Cell phones ARE a distraction when the DRIVER uses it. PhatNoise can play music for everyone (just like a radio, which is safe) or it can play videos for the REAR passengers.
EPA numbers are good indicators but most Kia Sedona owners report better gas mileage than the pathetic 15/20 EPA. The 2004 Sienna has not delivered EPA numbers in real world driving conducted by Edmunds.
$14,700 for the Ford might actually mean resale would be comparable to the Honda/Toyota pair after 2 years. ;-)
-juice
At least from what I've seen.
-juice
-juice
"Outside of a few road trips, most of our driving time has been spent inside the city limits. This includes numerous trips to the grocery store, toy store and local shopping malls, outings which have provided ample opportunities to load and unload kids, groceries and the occasional Toys 'R Us haul."
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/toyota/sienna/100257809/roadtesta- rticle.html?articleId=100603&editorialpage=page003&tid=ed- munds.h..wkedmunds.longterm.3.*
From Edmunds.com Minvan comparison (which shows the Sienna in a mix of city/hwy, and in comparison to other minivans):
"However, the Sienna does offer the best EPA fuel economy estimates at 19 city/27 highway, and over the course of a week the Toyota was consistently delivering at least 23 mpg in combined city and highway driving and often topping out at 24 mpg. Compare this to the Ford Freestar that typically offered no better than 18 mpg."
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/101676/page007- .html
(That one was driven in the real world, too).
~alpha