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(That would be only one change...If simplicity is not your style, you could make two changes and change both your phone and your carrier...)
;-)
I live in a townhome where the garage is on the street level and the area I like to keep my key is immediately above. In order to stop the key and car from talking all the time, I put my key in foil in a cookie tin. Works wonderfully.
The phonebooks can be shared between different phones. Once you upload phone book entries to the car you can use them with any phone that you pair with the system.
It is true that the V710 is one of the few phones that will not allow you to upload any phonebook entries to the car. Also there is no way to enter the information into the car using the Nav screen. The only thing you can use is a log of dialed or received numbers but the numbers are not visible when driving.
One workaround is to upload the phonebook using another phone that has Bluetooth. As far as I know this phone would not even have to have any phone service so you might even be able to get one on ebay for a good price if you cannot borrow one. Once the entries have been uploaded you should be able to use them with the 710.This is obviously a bit cumbersome if you have a big phonebook but it is definitely doable.
Of course you can always use the actual phone keypad especially if you store the numbers on speed dial but I agree that it partially defeats some of the purpose of Bluetooth.
Once the numbers are in the phonebook you will have to transfer them to the One Touch dial section of the car system in order to use tham while the car is in motion as the actual phone book function is disabled while the car is moving.
The phone book function & keypad dialing being disabled when the car is moving is rather annoying....has anyone gotten the dealer to bypass that disabling??
In order to do this you need a wiring diagram and the ability to access the back of the Nav system. Mine was done by a car stereo installer who has done many other cars as well. The Lexus dealers will not do the work but they may be able to unofficially refer you to someone who is doing it in your area.
Obviously it is never a good idea to be distracted when driving but a lot of people would use the smaller cell phone keypad for these functions which in my opinion is more dangerous. In many cases including my own the passenger is actually using these Bluetooth phone features when the car is moving.
This is easy enough to check. Put the key in that bag, and see whether the car responds (puddle lights, ability to turn car on, etc.).
Good luck.
Motortrend got 7.2s 0-60 for the GS300 AWD.
Motortrend got 6.3s 0-60 for the M35 RWD.
So the M35x will probably do 0-60 in the mid 6 range.
I'm in search of a phone that works with the GS430 Bluetooth with minimum hassle/problems.
I currently have Sprint and I'm very happy with the service (ex-Verizon customer). There are no Sprint compatible phones according to Lexus--only Cingular has phones that are compatible according to them.
I would be willing to switch service in order to get something that works right. I'm either going to have to pay full price for a new phone from Sprint or pay to get out of the contract and switch carriers, so either way I'm looking at an investment at getting this working. I want to make sure the money is well spent and I end up with something that works.
I'm surprised this is so difficult. My dad has an Acura TL and his Bluetooth was so easy (he's 65 years old for cryin' out loud and can't figure out his DVD player but he got his Bluetooth phone set up and working perfectly with his Acura).
I love this car, but I'm a bitty bit disappointed in how complicated the Bluetooth is turning out to be.
Can someone help me out with either 1) Sprint phones that work with the GS430 (I hate LG brand phones, I think they're junk) or 2) recommend another service provider and phone that will work with this system.
I don't mind spending the money to get this working, but I do want it to actually WORK after I spend all this time/money!
Thanks everyone!
Lisa
I have the treo 650 with sprint which is a complicated PDA phone and it works but it took a long time to get it to work. This is the only phone that sprint has that I found that worked. The trick was the car never gives you a message that it found your bluetooth signal. If you end up getting the phone shoot me an email at hlwdjoe@aol.com...
I use a Motorola V3 RAZR from Cingular with my GS430 and it works flawlessly. The only hitch is that you have to download your phone book numbers one at a time to the GS430 and it's a bit cumbersome, but other than that it works great once you get them ported over to the GS430's memory.
The Sprint guy was nice, and even brought their only BT phone to the parking lot (an LG) and tried to get it to pair up. It didn't work. That leaves the Treo 650 as my only option. I have a PDA (which I love) but I'm unsure about the Treo's capabilies as a phone. I want a decent phone, and the Sprint guy was honest and said the Treo isn't going to work as well as a phone as other options because it's a PDA first, and a phone second. Plus I'll have to pay $600 for it. If I was sure that the Treo wasn't going to give me spotty cell service, I might give it more consideration, but I went through years of frustration with Verizon, dropped and missed calls and I don't want to do that again!
I checked out the Razr at Cingular. I'm encouraged that it works perfectly with the GS430.
Continuing the research......
Or should I try and find another phone that works better with the GS 300 bluetooth?
What is your experience in general with bluetooth car function?
I ended up paying $100 for the Razr (after rebate) through lexus.letstalk.com. The V551 was $50 after rebate. I'm sure they're both nice. It was a hard decision. I don't use the phone for internet, music, photos, etc. I just need a phone, ya know??
Thanks for everyone's help with this....
If you read back, folks have gotten the Sprint Treo 650 to work, albeit with glitches, some of them serious enough for me to not choose to go with the Treo and switch from Sprint (call waiting disconnect problems). The Sprint rep took an LG PM-325 out to my car and tried to get it to work to no avail. He also discussed that several of their latest models were supposed to have BT capability, and showed up in the store without it. Too bad, because I really liked my Sprint service--no problems whatsoever. I'll switch back if they get a BT phone that works with my car.
As for the phone book, I haven't seen a post yet regarding any phone where someone was able to download the entire phonebook. With most BT Cingular phones, people are forced to download one at a time.
I’d been out for a while. I’m the guy who posted the original question of GS vs M. Just want to thank to those who replied to my question. It seems that the majority of responses are in favor of the GS. Some also had provided great ways of how to compare them then make decision, thanks again.
The things that I am attracted to the Infiniti are the performance (more HP) and the price that caused me to have a second thought. Because, at times I’d feel a little unhappy for getting something that costs more for a less value, i,e performance is in this case. But now my mind is 95% go for the Lexus, I don’t want to carry a burden of regret feeling later on for longing for a GS if I buy something else.
Lexus, in general, has been the best car overall since its debut (This is a fact. from consumer reports by JDP, auto trend, etc, you know what I mean.) However, it needs some improvements in the performance and handling areas, as it currently stand is seemed behind Infiniti, BMW, and Mercedes, etc, although many are very pleased with what it's already. Hopefully not for long when the new model, GS460, comes into play in a very near future, which perhaps will cover the latter. Lexus’ design and style are very handsome and elegant with luxurious appearance. The reliability/value is at the top notch, no doubt about it. In my book, Lexus has always more prestigious/superior than the Infiniti in most aspects. I know from experience, because I have been a long time Toyotas owner, from Camry, supra & 4runner, and i know how well and reliable they are.
$ is the major factor, for me, for making decision on a purchase, however, personal choice/taste overcomes that, which sometimes I’m willing to pay extra for the thing I want, be fond of, and for the quality. At first, I had BMW 5 series in the mix. As you all know, BWM is an ‘Ultimate Machine’ and it’s famous for handling, performance, power and luxury all that. In status, it’s classier than Lexus but not that I care for. While ago, test drove a 525, and it’s a fine machine. The handling feels nicely as advertised, but the power is not so impressed me much. Perhaps the power on a 540 model would give justice, but the $ sticker is too steep. I did little research and some say that BMW seems to have more problematic than the Lexus. Of course the repair/service is not cheap either, not that I have extra $ to burn nor I can’t afford, but it would be too irksome to see it happens I know a guy who owns a 2002 M3; it has visited the dealer for few times already. The problem is that it produces too much power which causes other things break This may not a fair reason to mention here. Anyhow, BMW is out my list for now.
I have great passion for cars and like to read about it a lot, especially in the consumer discussions as this. It’s certainly a great place for reading pleasure. It’d be nice if one has lot of dough ($). I’d know how to fulfill my satisfaction by purchasing variety of makes and models for every couple years. It seems some people here in this forum are doing that, changing from one model to the next in a few years. That’s just too awesome man. Life is good, isn’t it? Good for you I am enviously inspired.
Best regards,
Happy motoring
IwanmyGS
I took someone elses advise and bought a BT phone on ebay for $30. I use that to upload the phone numbers.
Bottom line, if Cingular works well in your area, you're probably better off switching. If you're like me and Cingular stinks where you are, then this is the best work around.
My mailbox is 1/4 mile from my driveway and YES I realize my seatbelt is not on when I got back in my car from getting my mail and NO I don't think I'm going to put it on for the short drive around the corner.
It's driving me bonkers.
What about the LG VX8100? Has anyone tried this model yet?
How about the Nokia 6255i? Or the Motorola E815?
Any advice/information would be appreciated.
The phone works fine with the Lexus GS300. It creates a permanent Bluetooth bond, and allows calls. It also allows breaking and reforming the Bluetooth link, so you can leave the car or have a private conversation if you need to.
However, like all Verizon phones (except maybe the Treo, I don't know), it does not allow you to download your phonebook. You'll need to use the phone to make calls, or else load in your most-used numbers by hand into the car. Verizon won't let their phones support the OBEX Bluetooth profile, so data can't be transferred.
Still waiting to hear, though, from others who have tried to use either the Nokia 6255i or the LG VX8100.
Thanks again.
Any phone that can pair with the GS300 and that supports the Bluetooth OBEX profile can download a phonebook. The phone doesn't have to have service. It's purely a data exchange between phone and car. No more than 500 entries will transfer per phonebook.
I'm not too worried about the lack of ability to transfer the phonebook because the car won't let you use the phonebook while it is moving. All phone functions work from the phone, though, so in my case it's just easier to use the phone to dial using the phone's phonebook or speed dial keys. The audio automatically comes over the car audio without having to specifically switch it (as long as a Bluetooth link has been established between phone and car, and this happens on car startup if everything is set right).
So, for me, sequence is:
Get into car.
Start car.
(Bluetooth automatically connected.)
Want to make a call ... use phone.
Car automatically mutes radio and diverts audio to car audio
Close phone and have conversation over car audio.
End conversation by hitting steering-wheel button to kill conversation.
I know some people would prefer to use the car's touchpad to make a call, but for me I am almost always moving while wanting to make a call, and it's a pain to have to stop the car to activate the keypad. I have a few numbers programmed into the car's speed dial choices, and that is available even while moving.
Best wishes -- enjoy.
It was not activiated, and it doesn't need to have Cingular Service connected for the bluetooth to work.
Cost me like $30.
Does the E815 ring on the LEXUS?? Because that's something my V710 won't do.
every second of the day, 24 hrs a day. Having that in your pocket next to your body all day long might not be a good idea in the long run. I emailed Lexus/Toyota and they said they were operating within U.S. regulations. Funny that's what the tobacco and asbestos industries used to say. I emailed Lexus/Toyota again and asked if they plan on putting an on/off button on the Smart Access Key. That way health conscious consumers could turn it off while not in use. Those who don't care about their long term health could leave it on all day. Lexus/Toyota responded with they don't plan on making any changes to the Smart Access Key.
However, realize that the smartkey only operates over a very short distance -- tens of meters. This is the same as things like WiFi and Bluetooth that are on all the time. Cell phones are so dangerous because they give off 0.6 W power to get a mile or more to the nearest cell tower. The smartkey will be many, many fold less powerful than that.
Am I the only one who cannot get the v710 to ring?
Keep it in your shirt pocket if you're afraid of destroying your breeding capabilites.
If possible ill-effects on your long term health are of no concern to you then think of it another way. On an average day the amount of time your Smart Access Key needs to be on to allow you to enter and start your car and later to exit and lock your car might be a grand total of 5 minutes. Why does your Smart Access Key need to be on the rest of the 23 hours and 55 minutes of the day. Why???
If so were you able to transfer the phone book as well?
Any input would be greatly appreciated