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Lexus GS 300/GS 430
libertycat
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I hope this car has better styling (like the new ES300 NOT the IS300), more passenger and trunk room, and more standard features.
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http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ge8w-ngkw/mente/scoop.html
I am confused. They look different from each other. So, which one is the new Aristo?
I can't read Japanese. But it seems to mention several engines, including 3.0L (260HP) and 3.5L (280HP). Where's the V8?
I can't wait to see new GS.
Hey Jim,
> Yah, I have been busy latley with the launch of the
> refreshed LS430.
> We were in Seattle last week and they showed off the
> 2005 GS. Let's just
> say it will be well worth the wait. That is one
> nice assss car.
> Very well thought out, There will be an AWD
> version, not sure if the V6 or
> the V8 gets it.
> I have not heard any news of a hybrid
> Sequoia/Tundra. But as time goes by
> Toyota/Lexus will introduce hybrids into more and
> more of the models.
> So what's new with you???"
I emailed him with lots of questons and this was his reply:
"Hey Jim,
That pic you sent
http://www.autofiend.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&a- mp;a- mp;sid=96
is indeed a doctored up HPX. Doesn't look anything
like
the new GS. The new GS is lower and longer. I don't know about power
output or performance. I do know the base eng will be a V6. What
struct
me the most is how clean the car is styled and the interior of the
vehicle
as well. I would say the best looking Lexus or Toyota yet. Doesn't look
like anything esle that Lexus or Toyota has come out with. Nice set of
wheels as well. Lets just say I can't wait to get mine!!
The hybrid RX was there as well. That has some performance as well.
Faster that a BMW X5 V8 and gets 36mpg in the city."
Hopefully some pic's may surface now that the car is in the US.
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Thanks.
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/03/1015a.html
Here's the information on the sedan Toyota will show:
LF-S (LEXUS Future-Sedan)
The next-generation premium sedan LF-S embodies the Lexus brand’s new conception of luxury.
V8 gasoline engine and high-output motor hybrid system 4WD (tentative)
Length: 4,910mm; width: 1,895mm; height: 1,345; seats 5
Perhaps this confirms the direction of the new GS: 4WD and hybrid technology? Oh yeah, it looks like the concept SUV Lexus showed earlier this year.
http://www.motortrend.com/autoshows/coverage/112_0310_tokyo/index- 4.html#3
I will trading in my 2000 BMW 540! BMW screwed up the new 5 series.
Mike
i was in NY on I495. it was a black one first i couldnt figure out what car is that then i drove next to it then i was like what the... then i found out this morning it is 2005 gs 430.it looks big, but very nice.
i guess they were testing the car or somehting..
i am pretty sure it was the car b/c it looks just like the one post here.
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/lexus/gs430/100284903/photos.h- tml?tid=edmunds.f.review.leftsidenav..2.Lexus*
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/porsche/cayenne/100342776/photoga- llery.html?pg_type=SUV&imgsrc=%2Fpictures%2FVEHICLE%2F2004%2F- Porsche%2F100342776%2F027859-T.jpg
~alpha
Wow, unveiling the GS before the Aristo!?! Amazing!
HOPEFULLY, the V6 will come in with 250HP, the V8/Hybrid around 350.
A week from Tuesday, we'll know.
DrFill
I am a bit disappointed in the new design. I think it resembles a Maxima. I was expecting something more sporty like the various spy pics floating around on the internet. I also think it has a lot of rear overhang like the new Solara, and that makes the wheels look smaller. I do like the look of the front and the interior.
I am not going to write off the car until I see it face to face. There is still plenty of time for it to grow on me.
~alpha
PS- I have not yet had a chance to read very much; is the new 245 hp 3.0 V6 a clean slate design? Or is it derived from an existing architecture? Also, good to see the GS is going from "VSC" to the less intrusive "VDM" (essentially VSC with enhanced capabilities).
http://www.wieck.com/public/*wieck_search?ws4d_nav=true&opera- tor=and&source=wik&source=wka&source=wkt&Page=1&a- mp;operator=and&search_criteria=lexus+gs&operator=and&- ;search_criteria=&keyword=&Sort=import_date&submit_bu- tton=Search&URL=index.html
The site says "2006 Lexus GS", but it's coming out this year as a 2005 model, right?
The design certainly is more aggressive than the Lexus usual. I'm unhappy with the heavy rear end look which seems even more prominent than on the previous models. The cam-back (?) type of look. I personally prefer more of a standard sedan, but I can't deny that it looks like it's going about 100mph standing still.
Bret
Where's the stick?
Where's the improvements to the V8?
Why doesn't the V8 have AWD?
What happened to the LF-S styling?
Why did it take EIGHT model years to come up with this?
Why should Mercedes and BMW be worried?
Why should I buy a 2006 (in 2005) over the current car? For 20 V6 HP?
This REEKS!!!
DrFill (DIP)
What were those Lexus designers smoking when they came up with this dog?
Craig
Why should Mercedes and BMW be worried? Read the last 45K sedan comparo in Car and Driver, and read the January Car and Driver for the review of the new 5 series. Nobody on this board can speak to the improvements to engine, transmission, and suspension until AT LEAST the press has driven the car... if not until we all have...
Where is it stated that the V8 will not have AWD? Is that confirmed? That is not something I was aware of......
If this car is competitively priced, I see no reason why it can't be a very strong entry. Ya'll need to relax. If the iDrive BMW tickles your fancy, then protest Lexus by buying that hideous thing.
~alpha
Have you been to the Edmunds Auto Show section?
There it states the V6 gets the AWD! The V8 is clearly seperated!
It's competitively priced NOW! What's the point if the car isn't significantly better?
Is is a sports sedan? Where's the stick? The A6 and 5 have one?
Is it gonna take sales from the E? Where is the heritage? The style (gone)?
What kind of buyer do they target?
Why should I get this over a 2004?
This is the darkest day in Lexus history!
DrFill (DIP)
Like alpha01 wrote, quite eloquently, I must say, this redo is months away from reality. Production doesn't begin until fall of '04, and we won't see it in the showrooms until early to mid 2005. Plenty could change b/w now and then. Lexus is being deliberately coy about the V8 engine. They do not want to trump their class leader, the LS, by announcing a bigger engine/option engine for the V8, or including the AWD on the V8. I am sure we'll hear more as days/weeks/months go by. As to the stick, me hope they do provide a stick option in the V8 if they are to be competitive. One can only hope ! IMO, the GS4 needs no less than 340bhp, and mated to a 6-speed stick, should do the low low 5s 0-60, and the mid 5s with the slush box 6-speed. That is what I am expecting the commercial version to be.
Oh well so much for the so-called daring design of the show car, and Lexus' hopes of bringing a new (good looking) styling theme to the table. Good look if the next generation LS follows this look.
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