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The next GS' seat looks a bit short too. It only looks about as long as the ES330's seat, which isnt very supportive
Is there someway to extend the seat as well?
Another thing...Are there actually two different types of sat navs that toyota and lexus use? I've got a toyota camry with sat nav, and the interface looks pretty normal, quite casual.
I took a ES300 for a test drive one day, and the sat nav was a LOT different. Well the layout was anyway. It was green and the menus seemed more sophisticated. It even had a compass and a screen that showed your longtitude and latitued.
Is the one that Lexus uses just an older version? Or is it suppose to be a higher spec, more classy version?
However, Lexus recently significantly upgraded the nav system with much cooler graphics. For example, on my "radio" screen it is all shades of gray. On the new one you can select from 4-5 bright colors. The new system also has around five million points of interest vs. mine that has around one million. Plus, there are sounds you can program in for certain destinations (like a doorbell when you arrive home) and you can locate businesses by phone number. Note the new system is not any faster than mine (although it does not need to be).
Now, I can update my nav DVD and get the five million points of interest. But I will not get the new colors and other features because they are part of the "new" system only.
Currently only a few Lexus models have the "new" system. That includes the ES 330, LS 430 and LX 470. I believe all other models still have the "old" system. I think the new Toyota Solara also has the "new" system, while the Sienna uses the old one. Go figure.
The best way to distinguish the new vs. old system in the ES (and the Toyotas) is by the screen. My old version has three "buttons" vertically along the right side of the screen...they are part of the display and you touch the screen to push one of these buttons. The new system on the ES uses the full screen for the map as the "buttons" were moved next to the screen and are now real buttons. Note cars like the LS 430 have a different screen (it never had the "buttons" on the screen).
Btw, I remember everyone complaining when Ford dropped the more powerful standard engine from the new F150. That hasn't really affected buyers, last I checked it was a smash hit.
Lexus has been very tight lipped about many specifics, but has been heavy handed with promotional jargon and predictions of future grandeur, and has presented us with this model as a litmus test of public reaction.
Make no mistake, in this day and age, one year is a LOT of time to fine tune an automobile, and my guess is that Lexus knows exactly what it's doing. Look for Lexus to show the final car at Tokyo, (or detroit) and don't be surprised if they've re-shaped it, and the details of it's architecture, handling, and technology emerge to be much more substantial than what we've been hearing in the past.
At first I thought Infiniti G35 when I looked at the profile, but have changed my mind. I bet it will be a stunner in real life.
Tsk tsk, REALLY, when was the last time you saw Lexus do anything half assed. The future is bright.
Lexus doesn't half-[non-permissible content removed] things true, but the GS has never been that strong of a competitor, no company is perfect and hits the target with every vehicle.
His insurance company determined that it wasn't worth fixing the brand new e60.
What happened to the car he rear ended? A small dent on its steel bumper.
If this truly is the case, then BMW has made a grave mistake because the A8, NSX and XJ aren't exactly that fragile.
Actually, I just looked at it again and I got stories confused. The guy who had a less than 10 mph hit on the front bumper caved in the front quarter panel of his car and suffered $7k in damages.
There were other people who had similar accidents involving different cars that either had more damages or had their cars totaled.
My apologies for putting out wrong info.
His proof that he was going less than 10 mph is the front airbags didn't deploy. Sounds convincing to me.
Anyway, back on topic, why is there NO BUZZ about the new GS?
Aside from Boomsama, no one seems to be excited about this car.
The A6 has been driven by the press and the STS is a homegrown product hence their popularity on these boards. The new GS hasn't been driven yet so give it some time, I'm sure things will pick up around here shortly.
Its true that unibody x-overs are safer than their body on frame behemoth counterparts, but they are still inherently less safe than a passenger car. They will not be able to swerve as well to avoid an accident, they are more likely to roll, and braking performance suffers because of the extra weight and high center of gravity.
My 2 cents. I originally did not like SUVs at first for all the reasons you guys mentioned.
But after doing a few moves, extended family vacations, etc., I find it incredibly convenient to have at least 1 large car around.
I do agree, however, that too many idiots drive SUVs around like sports cars. You can't brake fast in these things and they don't turn too well. If you're going to drive 'em, you have to drive 'em carefully.