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Joining the potent and refined 4.3-liter V8 will be an all-new 245-horsepower V6 engine replacing the current inline six. Both the powerful V6 and V8 engines benefit from an all-new close-ratio 6-speed automatic transmission with a sequential manual-shifting mode. The combination provides faster and substantially smoother acceleration for even better performance and, surprisingly, improved fuel economy. A new Adaptive Variable Suspension allows the driver to fine-tune suspension damping with four settings ranging from normal-mode for everyday driving to a sport-mode for a tighter, more precise feel."
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Because spending money to develop a new engine which right off the bat fails to match Nissan's VQ (DOHC 3.5L v6 260 to 280HP) or Honda's 3.2L SOHC v6 270HP seems questionable to me.
What am I missing here?
Currently, the engine has 245HP and 228lb/ft, where i think that it would be a waste of time to develop an all new engine with such low figures. Perhaps they may tweak it a little when we are closer to the release date. Let's hope so anyawy.
Toyota didn't make $10 billion a year by making dumb mistakes so I gotta believe they must have a good reason for this.
The only thing I can think of is that they're trying to consolidate their 6 cylinder engines and want to make one v6 that will fit transversely in their FWD cars and longitudinally in their RWD cars, sort of what Nissan does with their VQ. Then they can detune it a little for Toyotas and bore it out for more HP for Lexus.
That is the only thing I can think of.
Do you guys think that Lexus has given us fake specs, and in reality has a higher powered V6 and V8 in work to be released to the public closer to the GS release date?
We'll just have to wait and see about this v6. I'd like to believe it's a bluff, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a dumb mistake on Lexus's part either.
They have a history of making underwhelming engines and seeing if the public goes for it.
Also, if they're really planning to put in a 3.5L v6, shouldn't it be called the GS 350 instead of GS 300?
I googled around and found this:
It shows that a Lexus dealer said that the engine was going to be a new 3.5L V6 tweaked from the current 3.3L V6
The information, however, is from over a year ago.
Maybe the new GS300 will come with a Hybrid option. A 4wd version with an electric motor powering the front wheels on a rwd platform sound good??? I have serveral reasons for this speculation.
1. Toyota made it clear they want Hybrids, as options, across thier entire line up... by extension this includes lexus. So why wait till the next redesign for a Hybrid integration..
2. The GS300 is suppose to be the version with 4wd... so an electirc motor would make sense
3. Perhaps the reason why the new 3.0 V6 with 245hp has relatively low HP figures is because it was/is designed to be the new corporate engine that can be used as a Hybrid Synergy system... a low emission engine that can start/stop with, 245hp is more than enough if supplemented with a Electic motor of say 40hp as with the RX400h... or more!!!
Will the new GS have a CVT or 6speed??? That may be a clue!
If history is anything to go by, Lexus does not drop the ball when comes to redesigns.... eh mechanically, especially at such a critical stage in it Lexus history. Didn't they say, they wanted become more sports driven,...
In the Lexus press release, it stated that the 4wd version will be for the GS300...
This bit of info is in keeping with the speculation that the new 3.0 V6 is for the Hybrid use, the GS4XX is non-Hybrid, hence no electric font motors, no 4wd...
Because having a 4wd car power with only 245hp seems a bit low even for Lexus! Hope they don't disappoint!
To me at least... this theory makes to most sense...
The GS300 will come with a 6 speed auto, but the way you said that the electric powers front, petrol powers back does make good sense.
Lexus may realize that buyers of sports Sedan - especially, since they want to get more passionate - would not be happy with a CVT power splitter device. I mean, a CVT is okay for a Prius and RX400h, but a sports sedan is whole different story.
In any case, Toyota claims they want Hybrid options for the entire line by 2010, and since the new GS platform should last 5yrs, the up coming platform should have a Hybrid option in its design.
Perphaps the car may use an asssist type Hybrid system like the Civic and Insight.
It seems very stupid to build an all new V6, with more power than the 3.3L V6, but with less torque. I mean, the GS is suppose to be a sports sedan, why would the ES have more torque?
True... but the CVT used in the Hybrid Synergy powerplant is nothing like the CVT used in Audis or any other brand for that matter.
The only thing the CVT is the HSD engine has in common with other CVTs are the letters C, V, and T... oh yeah and they're probably made of metal too :P
There is plenty of info on the HSD CVT out there... it really is a remarkable device.... too bad it removes quite a bit of control from the driver.
Also, don't know if this has been mentioned before, but is the Lexus v6 245HP going to be running on regular or premium gas? I hope it's regular because a high compression 245HP v6 is pretty weak.
By the way, Lexusguy, how does the current GS300 go? Or havent you driven one yet. Thanks.
The GS300 down here has no option list, everything is standard. If the GS430 appeared down here, do you think that the GS300 would become a bit cheaper inorder to keep a difference between the 300 and the 430?
Do you mean the 3GR-FSE?
So it looks like Lexus is planning to keep the power under the hood low, and if you want the extra juice, you have to spring for the hybrid.
Another question...do you think the next GS will be using the Toyota Crown Athlete platform? And when was the Toyota Crown Athlete released? Thanks.