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Yes, the pump is turned on and pumps the oil at the bottom of the engine back to the top.
Could I ask which dealer helped you? Apparently VW hasn't released a TSB yet, and mine seems to think that the noise is competely normal. I could do the call around routine, but I'd rather prove them wrong, just on principle .
Thanks!
Yes, I was referring to the steering moan - sorry for being unclear there.
I'm in Seattle. Working with the dealerships around here can be "wheel-of-morons" at times, and the one that I usually deal with is considered the "good" one.
I may give Louie a call just to see if I can get some info about the supposed upcoming TSB.
Thanks again!
Never say never. I have already driven a Jetta 2.0t 6 speed manual. The guys at the dealer were surprised when it was delivered, as they thought it should have the 5 speed.
thanks
Good luck,
David
Hankmyster
I found several and purchased a black 2.0T w/ no options last week.
What is VW thinking. Old Mike
There was an initial batch of US-destined cars that used Imperial miles per gallon as unit in the trip computer - a 20% difference. I am not kidding. I have contacted VW numerous times, because they are making the same mistake in a number of printed and online documents. They just don't get it, that "gallons" is not a standardized unit and varies from country to country. Obviously, any use of gallons in international trade requires the specification Imperial or US...
As to your mileage, it will likely still improve over time. 3500 is nothing for a Diesel engine.
As far as financing, any investment specialist will tell you that buying a car is always a money losing endeavor. There is no revenue producing "equity" or "value" in cars. Financing your car is simply paying more money due to a lack of cash. I try to buy my cars "outright". I recommend you do the same if you can afford it. You'll certainly feel more comfortable doing so with a honda or toyota.
If you understand that buying a new car is similar to buying a Plasma Screen T.V. - i.e. a luxury that you use every day but don't truly need AND you're willing to put up with a little increased risk, for increased pleasure and MPG, the Jetta is a very fine automobile.
Is reliability and fuel consumption your main concern with a new automobile? I assume (and correct me if I’m wrong) that you’re not concerned with how much power, or handling you could get out of it, or whether it’s currently the “trendy” design etc.
How has your Ford and Chrysler been for reliability? Any reason you’d like to move away from what you’ve had?
I personally do not subscribe to the Honda or Toyota being more reliable. I’ve personally had more problems in a Honda than my other cars, or my co-workers Ford.
If I were to keep any new auto an extended amount of time I would invest in an extended warranty. For around $1200-$1800 (or so) you could “buy” some piece of mind. All cars come with power windows, cruise etc. these items can get very costly if even one goes out.
The Jetta comes with a Basic 4yr/50K mi where the Honda and Toyota come with a 3yr/36K mi warranty.
Diesel engines usually last longer then gasoline engines so you don’t really need to worry about it’s durability it’s all the other small items that may come up (brakes, suspension, electrical etc).
If you know you would like to drive a new automobile every few years (benefits being it’s newer, newer safety, style etc) then you could lease it. You would then have a perpetual auto payment, but you’d know that your car would always have a warranty and would always be new. Your monthly payment would be lower than regular financing, but it would never end.
Certain other cars such as BMW and Audi also include standard maintenance items. So when your car gets to 30,000 miles and you need to spend a few hundred on required maintenance it’s all covered. You also gain the benefit of getting loaners when you take your car in for anything.
Yesterday I happen to be driving and noticed a black Jetta TDI, it was new and shiny a very elegant and impressive looking automobile.
If one is not bothered by “intensive maintenance requirements" on the European cars you mentioned
...not my quote.
FYI Honda now has 5/60 for their power train and not the 3/36 you mentioned
I was quoting the basic bumper to bumper warranty.
Did you know that Hyundai make several cars in the US of A? Example: Sonata is made in a new factory in Alabama. So, when you say "american made", one needs to be careful. Also, Honda makes many of their cars in the US. Meaning it is American made.
If someone wants a car strictly for reliability, then the Camry is a GREAT choice.
Thanks!
Thanks in advance.
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The car magazines have been complementing the 06 Jetta GLI. I agree -- it is a great car with all the sportiness that I need. However, I would like to have the convenience features that you would typically expect when you pay close to 30K for a car. They offer NAV (which I like) but they don't offer power seats! Ofcourse, no power seats means no memory seating. Also, no homelink (not as important, but I don't know too many other cars that provide NAV and heated seats but then don't allow these additions!). What gives?
So you say, why not move on to the Jetta 2.0T. It has the same engine and it has a package 3 that adds the power seats and the homelink. First, it doesn't drive nearly as well as the GLI. Second, when you "upgrade" to this, you are entering luxury and apparently the only option for luxury cars is a wood trim on the interior! I don't understand why luxury is affiliated with wood as opposed to the aluminum trim that to me personally looks so much more appealing. Finally, they do not have the cool paddle shifters on the automatics like the GLI -- admittedly just a gadget factor, but cool nonetheless.
Well, why not try the Passat 2.0T? After all it has the same engine as well. Guess what, the Passat 2.0T actually comes with FEWER options than the Jetta 2.0T. There is only package 1 and 2 but no package 3 as in the Jetta 2.0T. Go figure!
Seems like the only way I can get everything I want is to move up yet another level to the Passat 3.6 with at least package 1 sport. At this point, I get it all (dual zone, paddle shifters, power seats with memory, homelink, heated seats, etc.). However, now we are talking a price tag in the mid 30's. Couple that with the fact that we have a completely newly designed car (inside and out) that is bound to have some problems in the first year, and you start having your doubts...
The question that comes up then is why limit myself to VW now that I have upped my spending limit to the mid-30's? Why not also look at the TL's and the Audi A4s? I have driven both of these and they provide me all the options that I want (admittedly, I am looking at the 2005 and 2005.5 models on both these cars to keep the price tag the same as the Passat). I haven't really taken the Passat 3.6 for a spin yet. Any suggestions?
Why could the GLI not support a package 3? Why has no magazine uttered a peep about it? Am I just being too picky?
Maybe an A3 2.0T? You get the Audi maintenance included.
A nice European Deliver system where you could pick and choose your options/features would do wonders for VW/Audi.
i'm looking at some of the same cars as you and am disappointed with the option list on the Passat 2.0. I own a 2000 A4 right now and love the torquey 1.8T engine (which is much improved for the 2.0T), and think that would be a great option in the Passat. but try to get it optioned out at all and you're out of luck (its even worse for me, as I must have a manual, and you can't get the only package they offer w/ out an auto.) the only reason i can think of for them to be doing this is to prevent 2.0 sales from taking sales away from the 3.6, which i assume has much higher profit margins. i have migrated in my search to the A3, which is a fun and versatile car. unfortunately, i have the same reservations about the hatchback design, which i really wish i could get past, because i love almost everything else about the car. its a blast to drive (the DSG almost had me thinking of getting an "auto". almost), the interior is nice, and functionality is high, and optioned with just the sports package is reasonable priced ($27,710)
I do not want the doors to lock when the car starts moving and I do not want the doors to re-lock if I don't open them.
2006 Jetta TDI Pkg 1.
Want a Passat 2.0T stick? Can't get it in a Pkg 1 or Pkg 2.
Want auto air? Get a V6.
Want a DSG transmission? Get a Jetta TDI or GLI. Can't get it in a Passat.
Honda Accord is annoying to me, in that I would have to go up to LX SE to get 4 wheel disk brakes, power mirrors and height adjustable seat, which are the only things I'd really want to have over their "Value Package". This still would not get me stabilty control, which I would like to have.
1) VW Passat 3.6 with Sport Package 1 + Nav
Was quoted a price of $33,400+T for this
2) Audi A4 2.0T quattro
With Premium, Sport, Audio, Lighting packages + Nav
Was quoted $34,500+T for this since it is a 2005.5 model (the last one on the lot so I need to decide fast)
Both the prices seem very reasonable. The passat drives really well and has all the features known to man! However this is a brand new model so I am slightly concerned. The Audi -- well, its an Audi! Any thoughts/recommendations???
And if you'd like, feel free to set up a specific comparo between those two vehicles on our Sedans Comparisons board.
Those links should be good resources for you - since you've decided to drop the Jetta from your consideration, let's not divert this discussion from its topic.
Do you need Quattro?
Hard to resist the 3.6L Passat for me.
None of them did quite as well as the Jetta in this test:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=80
If you click for the details on the side test, every one of them was rated "acceptable" in at least one sub-category, while the Jetta was rated "good" in all sub-categories. Note that side impact crash test ratings (unlike frontal tests) can be compared across all vehicle type and weight categories.
Similarly the Jetta was better than the only large car that has undergone this test (Ford 500), and better than the small SUVs that have been tested.
The only vehicles that have equaled the 2005.5+ Jetta in this test are also from the VW family: Passat and A3.
My only mild disappointment for the Jetta was that its IIHS front-impact test score weren't quite as stellar. It scored "Good" but did not get a "Best Pick" designation. The front test results are comparable across vehicles in similar weight classes, so bigger vehicles have a natural advantage. But I'm surprised the Jetta didn't get a higher score in the test, especially with its newer design.
The new Crash-Active head restraints have substantially improved whiplash protection in rear-end collisions. Still not a "Good" score but much better than before.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/head_volkswagen.html
I've read about a dozen different theories on the cold start up noise. In the owners manual (boooklet 3.1, page 94) VW explains the noise, not sure why folks don't want to accept their explanation :confuse: . They say it is noisy until oil pressure builds up in the hydraulic valve lifters.