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Honda Accord vs Acura TSX
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THe S2000, are you really bringing that into the topic.
People who say the V6 isnt worth it, or a waste of money, are the same people who say money doesnt matter in life..lol
The Mazda6s
PS: The Mazda six automatic is a DOG! Thumbs down to FOrd for that
The Mazda6s with the sport package handles better than the Accord V6 and out-brakes the Accord by a long shot. The Mazda6i sport package leaves any Accord in the dust in the handling department.
"PS: The Mazda six automatic is a DOG! Thumbs down to FOrd for that"
Thumbs down to Ford for that? It's a Jatco transmission, not a Ford transmission, and it doesn't bother me anyway because I don't buy automatics. Thumbs down to Honda for not making a manual V6 available in the sedan!
Both good cars on day 0. After Day 0, look at the resale value of both cars. I don't even have to type my point because it's so obvious. Thank you for reading.
I was somewhat disappointed with the Accord interior. The leather was not as nice as the Acura's, and some of the trim seemed cheap, especially on the door panels. Not US manufacturer cheap, but not the quality of a luxury car, which many people claim it has. The dash and the gauges are first class, many switches are identical to the TSX.
I'm actually leaning towards an '03 TL Type-S. I'm getting a great price with the $1500 marketing support at $27,150. It doesn't have the modern look of the Accord or TSX, but it offers the combination of quality and performance that I'm looking for. If Acura would put the Accord V6 in the TSX for another $1000, then I'd be interested.
The Accord V6, in my opinion, is the best buy available in ANY CAR (lofty claim, I know). It does handle OK, but I don't think you could call it sporty. It is nose heavy and feels mushy around the corners (but, I do think the Honda V6 handles nearly as well as the Mazda 6). The ride is composed and the interior very comfortable.
I think the Accord interior is every bit as nice as the interior on my Acura. Most of the materials are really top notch - worthy of a much more expensive car. The only real difference, in terms of quality, is that the leather on the seats in the Acura seems much nicer.
The Accord 4 is a smoking deal as well. The 4-cyl cars have are missing some of the features that the V6 has though. Of course, the 4 won't have the acceleration of the V6. Still, the four feels pretty damn lively, and handles better. If feels a lot more balanced than the V6. In Consumer Reports tests, the 4-cyl automatic version of the Accord did 0-60 in 9 seconds - competitive with the V6 versions of some other vehicles (like the Mazda and VW).
As for the TSX, you pay a premium for exclusivity and a lux name tag. So, it s not nearly as good a bargain as the Accord. It is also much smaller inside. Yeah, I know it is only a few inches here and there, but you really feel it. The ride on the TSX is also kind of stiff, but not horrible. The handling is much, much more sporty than the Accord. It is a really fun car to drive. And, the long I have it, the more I love the way it looks on the inside and out.
Anyway, all three of these options are great choices, and you can't go wrong. If I had a family and needed room, and I didn't mind the way it looked (like many others, I don't like the rear end of the new Accord at all) I'd probably get the Accord. But, I'm single, don't need space, and wanted something more sporty.
1) I really don't care for the '03 exterior redesign. I don't like the headlights, the bulbous shape, and the overbloated trunk. To me, the car is just plain ugly. I think the previous model year looked just fine.
2) The sedan is a shared car. My wife is MT-challenged, but I prefer a MT, so "auto-manual" transmissions were a must. The Accord does not offer a manually-shiftable AT (unlike the MZ6 and the TSX).
Based on these 2 primary criteria, the Accord was axed from my short list, leaving just the MZ6 and the TSX. Ultimately I chose the TSX because I couldn't get a MZ6 optioned the way I wanted at the price I wanted at the time I wanted... but I digress; this discussion is about the TSX vs. Accord.
The new accord is so classy looking, f- sporty, it's sporty enough and I tell you what, my friends all love it and wish they had it...my buddy drives a bmw 3 series and says after driving it so long, he'd rather save money and have the upscale luxury and new design on the accord...my other buddy drives the altima and says that he should have at least considered the accord more then he did.(he didn't at all). and my other friend has the Maz 6. I like that car too, but he also said he can't believe how luxurious the accord feels compared to his.
anyway....i paid 100 under invoice, added mudguards, foglites, and wheel locks, for an additional 600 installed. Not including the extended warrenty walked out of there at around 25.5 even including tax, extras, tags etc...
One hell of a deal...the TSX would have cost me a lot more and I'm using the saved money for my new house!
Anyway, back to our car. At 46K miles now, and not one hiccup. Runs just like it was new.
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I was going to get the TSX, but my wife insisted on the Accord.
No hard feelings because I have the 03 TLS, but I think I will be spending more time in the ACCORD-new toy- SATALLITE RADIO.
I like that though- shows that one of us is frugal.
87 OR 89?
As far as Octane, the K24 in the Accord is tuned for 87 and you will derive no benifit whatsoever from 89. In fact, with 89 you might get poored gas milage and you could notice a sulfar smell coming out of the exhaust.
The V6 is another issue. Honda recommends regular, but you do get improvements in performance at higher octane levels. So, with the V6, you might get some benifit from 89 or 91.
Hydra2 - I have a TSX and the ride is nowhere near as smooth as the Accord. If ride quality is an issue for you, you definitely made the right choice. And, of course, you got a world class V6 for less money than I paid for my 4-banger.
Hope you both enjoy your new cars! Great choices.
The Satallite Radio as me hooked to this car.
Billyperks: DW turned down a temporary swap of her new accord for my dts.
The V6 Accord is an amazing buy.
According to 2004 Honda Accord Brochure. But even if you are right, DW will never give up the great v6 power, now that she has enjoyed it for almost a week.
I think that either way, both are great cars and both will probably make you very happy. They are so similar that getting the TSX really only makes sense if the price difference is minimal or if it is not a big deal to you. Also, the Acura comes with many extra things like free loaners during servicing, roadside assistance, concierge service, trip-interruption benefits, and an extra 12 months of warranty. They said that even if they don't have a loaner available when you go in for service, they will rent you a comperable car (examples given to me were Nissan Maxima, several convertibles during the summer).
TSX. Like most TSX owners I wish a 6 Cyl was
available in this car but....
The car is quick after you get it rolling. 1st gear is low and wheelspin can occur if you throttle hard too early.
Accord was on my short list but the"made in Ohio"
made me think of my Ford truck that I was trading
and of the quality issues I had with it.
Just for compare, today I had a Camry 6 cyl pull off the light and jump onto the acceleration ramp onto the interstate cutting me off. I wasn't racing but knew I was being played with.
I accelerated into the 90* bend and held the inside
of the corner while I could see the Camry fighting not to jump off the ramp with the G pull carrying it to the far side of the ramp.
I wanted more cornering speed and the Camry's suspension was already done.
The TSX feels quite nimble and the 6 spd manual is the smoothest ever built.
Go take one for a run.
BTW, looks are subjective, but the rear end of the accord, especially in desert mist, looks better and better to me every time I see ours or another one on the road. Honda new designs always initially appear to be bland or ugly, but improve with age like classics.
Enjoy your TSX but don't knock the Accord because it's a darn good car whether you like the looks or not.
People buy them both because they will more than likely be reliable, economical, and offer a rewarding driving experience for those who appreciate Honda's brand of bland, refined excitement.
be sure to look you up!
Some of us did not buy the TSX for racing, I would have bought something else if that was high on my list.
The TSX is a good small sedan, easy to scoot through traffic with and yet pleasant on the highway. It is also fun to drive and more practical then the NSX for day driving.
(Although the NSX is much more fun but...)
Looks are subjective. I will admit every time I see a TSX I go "ooh nice" but I do the same thing when I see an Accord sedan go by like mine with the fog lights, spoiler, and splash guards. The best looking of the 3 vehicles based on the Accord platform is the 04 TL IMO.
"The TSX is a good small sedan, easy to scoot through traffic with and yet pleasant on the highway"
I agree. I never said it wasn't a nice car. My point was that the Accord is far from the grandma's car someone was trying to make it out to be. Just as the TSX is a good sedan, so is the Accord. And the Accord is also easy to scoot through town and very pleasant on the highway as well.
This is one of the first items many owners replace. The car has greater abilities then the tires allow for. Typical Honda...
I cannot accelerate hard in first due to wheel spin.
I think the Accord is a great car, just did not fill the criteria quite as much as the TSX.
And yes, I hate the rear design on the Accord although I do not love the front of the TSX but I guess you can't have everything...
Merry Christmas!
TL-I hated it first but once you see it in person
you will love the way it looks. I saw one in blue in a parking lot once: it looks killer.
Accord: I don't think I will ever like it.
I did think about trading my CL in for maybe an 05 TL but its way too soon. I love Acura's styling direction right now. I think its one of the best styling directions in the automotive industry right now.
My only concerns are price and room. I could get a brand new V6 Accord for about $3000 less and not sacrifice any room. It's just that I really want a shifter, and the TSX's is totally sweet. What a clutch! Best I've ever driven. And the handling felt miles better than the Accord in the brief test drives I had. The fun factor is much higher for the TSX.
But, oh, that sweet V6!
I guess my question is for Accord owners who switched to the TSX:
1. Are you happy with your decision?
2. Is the room in the TSX overly restrictive vis a vis your Accord?
3. BTW, I got about $695 below sticker with all extraneous fees waived, prep, advertising, floorplan, doc fees, etc. Pretty much tax and license and that's it.
Thanks for any input.
The tsx is a fine car, especially with a stick. You'll have so much fun with it that you probably won't miss the accord v6 power, just make sure you want the firmer ride.
We drove the tsx, bought the v6 accord. It does not handle as well as the tsx, but it is a fun car to drive in the twisties, even compared to the last generation accord. The V6 power is sweeeeeet!