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MSRP $30538
Price Paid $27891
plus I'll get the $500 Costco card.
Outback Limited 2.5i with Moonroof & Nav (was having second thoughts on Nav, but got it....)
MSRP $33215
Agreed Price $30000 plus TTL
Was this okay? Car has Puddle lights, body side molding, weather mats, rear bumper cover, & splash guards. It's red, which is what I really wanted, although I could have settled for another option. I didn't have to travel far to get the car.
Only possible "regret" is that the finance guy shoved a Gold Extended Subaru Warranty (7 years total/100,000 miles with $100 deductible) in the package--WITHOUT ASKING! Once I realized what was happening, I put on the brakes. My husband then thought it would be a good idea with all the new electronics, and especially the Nav system, which we have never owned. I'm KICKING myself for not negotiating this addition, or even turning it down completely. Did not realize it could be purchased later, even close to the end of the original warranty's expiration until after the fact. He never presented various options for extended warranties, just said, "Your monthly payment includes...extended warranty." I felt a bit "taken" once home for not realizing this was as much of a negotiating point as anything else and something that could have been considered later.
"Nick" claimed we were getting the "Costco" price for this--at $1100, "down" from $2500. Found out Costco has NO negotiated price for extended warranties. Agreed because I was tired and thinking about my daughter, lonely on her bday, and my husband was for it, but didn't attempt to ask for a better price. Apparently I can cancel this policy for a full refund minus $25 fee within the first 90 days.
I asked about a zero deductible and all he said, was that will really raise your price and not be worth it. I never thought of asking for the $1100 price with no deductible or lowering the price altogether. It effectively raised my OTD price by $1177, including the tax.
Should I cancel the warranty? Or, if it's a good plan, price shop other dealers at the end of this month? So far, that's my only true regret on the purchase.
I always skip the installed NAV, all these systems IMO are overpriced and will be obsolete before the useful life of the car, I prefer a Garmin I can take from car to car, update, and just replace for not too much if I want to.
IMO not cool for a dealer to put a ESC in there without prior notice, etc., but I don't know enough about current pricing to say whether it was a good deal or not.
The car you purchased is exactly what I have been looking for and I have been looking at used ones but they are almost as much as new ones. The car lot has the same MSRP as you state. Did you just offer a lower price and start negotiating from there? I would buy new if I could buy one at the price you got yours for. May I ask which dealership you purchased your car at?
Thanks.
The price you paid on the warranty isn't "bad," per se, but the methodology by which you bought it leaves quite a bit to be desired. If you think you would like to have the extended warranty in the long run (there are some benefits to the gold plus warranty even during the 3/36 bumper-to-bumper period), then I would contact them and request the warranty be upgraded to zero deductible at no additional cost.
If they don't want to play, I'd cancel it and consider buying the plan elsewhere later on. There is a thread (Gold Plus Warranty) that discusses the various plans, great places to buy, etc.
I am in the market for an Outback. The best quote I got for a 2012 Outback 2.5i Ltd withPZEV and Moonroof Package ony is $27,500 +TTL. I have no trade-in, so this is the actual car value. While some websites put is at slightly lower than dealer invoice, some mention that this is higher than dealer invoice.
I am assuming that the dealers want to get rid of their 2012 models since the 2013 comes out in the fall. Do you think this is a good price?
Thanks!
Dealer claims this price is 400 under invoice but I am not sure about that.
Traded in a very old car for $500
What I'm curious about is when you said, "...I had to threaten to return the car...."
Does anyone EVER return cars and exchange very shortly after the purchase? If I could do it again, I'd just get the same car minus the Nav and think about the extended warranty. In this scenario, I'd be "downsizing," so I'm sure I'd get beaten on what I guess would now be considered a "trade-in". I've always heard once you drive it off the lot it loses thousands of dollars immediately.
The car was sold to me with 113 miles on it. I've only put on 13 miles from the dearlership to my garage. Any advice?
Take a deep breath...
You can't take the car back.. It's called buyer's remorse, and you have it bad...
Six months from now, you won't even remember...
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Garmin - the color scheme is weak, the opposite of soothing.
Magellan - you can't search once you've narrowed POIs down to a category.
That seems like awesome price for 2.5 Limited w/moonroof package. I am looking at similar car here in Michigan but the best offer so far is $29100. Do you mind sharing with me which state you got this offer ??? And how did you negotiate to get them to come down so low!! Thanks - Sam
Here's a video to show how it works/looks. I custom fabricated a mount so it's semi-permanent and never leaves the van.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4EWHtFe50Y
I live in Cincinnati, OH. I have been talking to 4-5 dealers here and most of them priced it in the 29,000+/- 500 range. This is the only one who has offered me that price
This evening I sat in the car for about two hours, slowly reading the guide, practicing, and setting up the system, page by page. I did learn a lot and managed to master some functions. There is some misinformation/misprints (wrong buttons listed) in the printed guide, though.
I assumed the system would speak street names. It also often cannot get me right to my destination...only "near" it. As far as the touch screen goes, they say to "touch lightly," yet it takes some effort to get it to respond. I long for the "iPad"-type ease and screen sensitivity. This feels very clunky and "dated." Perhaps this is how most other OEMs operate. I did find out a lot of other car brands have systems that also do not speak street names.
One particular setting does not work--the "Auto" function for switching the screen illumination between day and night modes. I set it to "Auto," and when I turn the headlights on or off, it stays at either "day" or "night" mode, depending on the previous selection. Assume this means a trip to the service shop, already.
For a good part of this time, I ran the engine, as I read it's best not to run the battery down while learning to use the system. Now, I need a big bottle of Visine and wish I had the extra $1500 plus tax refunded that the Nav systems costs, so I could use it toward the Botox injections I'll need to release the deep wrinkles in my brow! I will probably use the $500 Costco card I'll receive to buy a portable device as a user-friendly "backup." I'll give it time and try to look on the bright side and make the best of my decision. to purchase it.
Even if you don't have the cellular model, I bet your smart phone could serve as a hotspot.
You do need a co-pilot for that, though.
2012 WRX STI Hatch (wagon) - pearl white
Ordered to-be-built from factory (something Subaru should trumpet louder as a plus!)
(try ordering a Honda or Toyota) Included Nav, racks, rear tail pipe trim, rubber boot liner, paint sealant.
Paid sticker with no addendum - near $50,000 on final tab after tax/lic/deliv/blah blah blah,
But NO addendum, or "addl costs" sticker - so that is only std. Dealer profit margin as Subaru lists.
Told us 6 to 8 weeks for delivery, arrived as promised on week 8.
STI hatch is 100% Japan built and sourced, per paperwork, for those that care.
Car was perfect on delivery, not one item wrong or askew.
Racks bars & tail pipe trim are a dealer install item - Labor cost was waived by dealer.
Racks had to be sourced, took 4 days. (they didn't have racks in stock for a Subaru???)
3 weeks on and we are "double happiness" with the purchase, and much more satisfied than was expected. Car is a wolf in sheeps clothing (as we knew - both my wife and I are serious car geeks). Unfortunatly, as it's 'break-in' time, we have yet to be able to seriously unleash the hounds.
It's a bit of a guzzler for comparitive rides in it's size, but well worth the "why!" Seeing about 25mpg on breakin period.
Ride is not for the meek crowd and stiff as any factory ride I've ever driven.
Suspension+AWD performance are 'not of this planet' amazing
Fit and finish is tight, clean and squeek free so far.
Nav/Audio unit is a bit newer than any I've yet used, and it's impressive. Voice cmds work well, BT handsfree syncs and works well w/iPhone, USB for a flash drive is awesome for music listed with all the info., Folders are listed.
Video features that may work are not worth the trouble. This double din Nav head unit uses SD card for maps/map updating via computer.
Mapping Nav display is nicely done.
Ease of use for most will not be anything to difficult with a bit of practice.
So far, really impressed, happy and feeling like a cheshire cat on the hunt in our new little rocket ship. It won't slay many a monster V8, but it's not like driving a fat pig either. This car reminds me of all that I've always loved about quick but light Asian rides, but with hp like I never imagined out of a 4 cyl.
Turbo starts a meanigful spin at about 2700 rpm and gives a bit of a slap in the back about 3500. Some lag is always evident. 6 spd is a dream to row and nicely spaced on the ratios, if 1st is a bit short. Runs just below 3000rpm at 70mph & 4000rpm at 100mph in 6th.
Dealer was ho hum good. About what I'd expect for a commision dealership.
Our previous ride was a nicely equipped new 3 series BMW wagon, so treatment from Bob Baker is not the same as from BMW, but not a bad thing either.
Still, I hate sitting in a dealership listening to salesman spin their old school web of deciept on unsuspecting victims.
Anyway... We needed, we wanted a wagon (for the longboard here in So Cal as well as skates & other gear in the back), and choices are few and slim if you want something interesting in a wagon (NO SUVs, NO Crossovers - yuk!!). The STI Hatch is perfect! and so far I get the feeling like I used to from my great old Hondas that this will be a long term, reliable and fun love affair.
Thanx Subaru for making something interesting for the rest of us!
Props!
--LD
Thx!
Karen in AZ
The dealer has quoted Subaru Outback 2012 2.5i Premium
25K for MSRP
$1000 for lineartronic Continuously Variable Transmission w/6-speed manual mode
500 for OPtion Package :02
$271 for Auto-Dim Mirro/Comp/Homelink
$69 for Floor Mats/AllWeather/4
$80 for Rear Bumper Cover
This car does not have a moon roof.
My quote is around $24500. Is that good? What do you guys think?
-CVT (Automatic transmission)
-Option Package 2 (All Weather Package, Heated Front Seats, Heated Side Mirrors, Wiper De-Icer)
-Popular package #1a (Auto-Dim Mirror/Comp, Floor Mats, Rear Bumper Cover, Splash Guards)
-PZEV
MSRP: $27,834
Invoice: $26,087
Selling Price: $23,848
OTD (TTL in Chicago is HIGH): $26,511
If you're in the Chicago area I can recommend a dealership
I ended up purchasing a 2012 2.5i Limited (Dual Climate, CVT, HK stereo, AWP, Leather) with splash guards and compass homelink mirror for a total of 26,135 (not including taxes & dh fees) - MSRP was 30682. (They added and installed the splash guards and compass homelink mirror aftermarket for only 100 which was valued at a total of 500.) Thus far I love it. The USB port to connect to the stereo is wonderful and the automatic dual climate control. I plan on changing my car over to synthetic after its first oil change due to the long intervals between oil changes (7500 mi). I did not want a sunroof because I never open it, but I do wish I had the rear backup camera. Subaru does not sell a backup camera without the moonroof, so it will be an aftermarket install by a private company. Definitely get one there is a huge blindspot behind the car. I decided to get the rearview mirror that has one integrated (a huge amount but worth it). I drove one with it and it really helps with backing up the car. I also got a clear bra for the Colorado mountain driving. Thus far I love my car and I do not regret not getting a 2013 but we will see if that changes. I do regret though having payments for the first time ever.
I'm on the verge of ordering a 2013 Outback 3.6R Limited. I just need to figure out if the price I've been quoted for the vehicle is a fair price. Below is the quote, excluding sales tax, license fee, and a $150 "documentation fee".
I would love to hear any comments you may have regarding the reasonableness of the prices in this quote.
Thank you.
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Basic Vehicle:
Outback 3.6R Limited $30,034
Destination & Delivery $ 795
Moonroof: $ 1,203
Basic Vehicle Total $32,032
Port Installed Accessories:
Popular Package #2: $ 533
Includes:
Rear Bumper Cover
Splash Guards
Wheel Arch Molding Kit
All-Weather Floor Mats
Rear Seat Back Protector
Body Side Molding $ 170
Hood Protector $ 65
Moonroof Air Deflector $ 72
Trailer Hitch $ 417
Cargo Net-Rear Seat Back $ 42
Port Installed Accessories Total $ 1,299
Discount offered by retailer –$ 300
Retailer Installed Accessories:
Rear Bumper Corner Moldings $ 89
Side Window Deflectors $ 298
Cargo Organizer $ 70
Sunshade $ 75
Valve Stem Caps $ 15
Retailer Installed Accessories Total $ 547
Grand Total $33,578
2013 Premium
automatic
all weather package
best offer so far ins $25,590 out the door (tax title....) for $27,673
25,289 with out the door (tax fees...) for 27318 (6.25% tax here in MA. Am I wrong in thinking i should be able to push this price down into the mid 24s?
I like the new Metallic Brown (can't remember the exact name of it) which requires the Special appearance package. Normally I wouldn't care for some of the stuff included in that package, like Nav, but have to take the bad with the good. I like the two position memory for the driver's seat and the color of the leather. It's a 2.5 liter, PZEV
Anyway, with the body side molding, puddle lights and wheel locks it comes in at
MSRP of $34,598
Invoice is $31,908.
Dealer quote(not including transportation fee) is $30,898.
Several of this color are around at local dealrs but they are all 3.6 liter so it would have to be ordered. I haven't confired the prices on here or Subaru site but they look like what I saw a month or so ago. Any thoughts? BTW, this is in Colorado.
Thanks
easypar
Why have you decided to shift gears and look at an Outback? I mean to say, from your perspective as a same-gen Legacy owner, what lessons have you taken from that ownership that led you to now consider an Outback instead?
We're not sure which of the current vehicles we'd trade for the OB, the Lexus is an '04 but only has 73K miles for the above reason. If we trade the Legacy she'd probably opt for something smaller next time. Other than driving vacations (which we've had many lately) neither car gets a lot of miles on it as our city has just about everything we need without going very far afield.
If we order it will take about 6-10 weeks to get here.
Thanks for the feedback.
easypar
I saw one on the lot at one dealership last week and stopped because I wanted to see/feel the paint and interior up close. When there I noticed they had a sign on the wall about their $495 "paperwork" charge. The sign included the words "additional profit". Yeah, no kidding! If you're not competent enough to make a go of it one what Subaru USA offers I kind of doubt your willingness to deal honestly with me on follow ons. For the record this particular store was about $600 above my final price on my Legacy 3 years ago.
Thanks for your input and I'll keep you posted on our decision.
easypar
In CR testing the Legacy got better mileage than the Accord, both H4 vs. I4 and H6 vs. V6.
easypar
Do you think this is good price?