You are right Pomy 11 about the fit around the fog lights. I found hooks around that area but couldn't find anything to hook them to. Also, could you fit those hard flaps under the headlights?
Has anyone seen any larger diameter nerf bars for the Tundra without the plastic steps?
As a graphic designer, I tend to pay special attention to the design of vehicles, it is one of the reasons I bought my Passat. So with this in mind, I wandered over to my local Toyota dealer to check out the Tundras. I had previously only seen them on the road.
I have to say, the truck is nicely proportioned. The size is signifigantly bigger then the Tacoma, but still not as BIG as the Big 3 trucks, a plus in my book. I like the lines of the truck, it is smooth without being round like the F150, yet square without being as brick-like as the Chevy. I noticed that all the trucks are about the same length. The Reg. Cab has a longer bed and the Access Cab a shorter one. Also, 2WD and 4WD seemed to have nearly the same ground clearence and ride height. Another plus for those who don't want or need 4WD, but stil desire a tall ride with good clearence. The trucks I was looking at were Silver, Maroon and Green, the paint seemed quite good with no orange peel or waves. Every truck on the lot was a V8 SR5, no Limiteds, no V6's and a mix of 2WD and 4WD.
Overall, from a design standpoint, this truck is great, with only the flashy chrome grill detracting from an otherwise clean design. I liked it very much, and IMO, the best looking "full-size" truck on the road.
Is there a way to tell which number my truck was off the assembly line? I took delivery of my Limited on July 13, 1999 and the dealer said it was one of the first Limited's offered to the public. It would be interesting to know what number it was.
I (and I'm sure others) am interested to now if your plant has come up with a solution for the bench seat vibration problem that I see mentioned on a periodic basis.
Also, is there a fix for the steering wheel vibration problem that I have read about even more frequently than the seat situation. I thought I remember someone mentioning a heavier steering wheel, but that just seems like a band aid for the problem.
Do you think Toyota will have a technical service bulletin covering one or both of these problems??
Premium on my Tundra Limited is $479.00 Year. $300,000.00 on Liability. $1000.00 on Medical Payments. $300,000.00 for Uninsured motorists. $250.00 deduct on comprehensive $500.00 deduct on collision. This is together with my homeowners policy. The company is Heritage Insurance. I don't believe this is too bad?
My steering wheel vibrates and will not vibrate on the same road, with the same speed. Tires have been balanced by Toyota dealer. Balance had helped, it used to vibrate at 58-62mph all the time. My captain chair also vibrates if no one is seating in. I love my truck, and hope Toyota would have a cure for these problems. People that I talked to thought the Dunlop tires were the cause. I'll appreciate your response.
Still love my truck. Less than 400 miles - engine light came on this morning (and I just got through bragging about it the engine to a friend). May take a trip to the dealer. Will let you know!
Thanks a million for all your helpful responses! Seems like you have become our resident factory man. Some time ago you posted that the 2001 Tundra would have a redesigned rear seat. "Much more comfortable" I believe you said. Any information as to details of the redesign, when available, and if the new seat could be retro fitted to a 2000 model? I will be purchasing a Tundra, but this might make the 2001 worth the wait.
Mine is 2WD, and a friend of mine has a 4WD. He had vibration when towing fishing boat at a speed of less than 70mph. Above 70mph it looked fine to him. I'll take "tundradune" advice to buy Michelins next time and will share this with my friend. I felt sorry for Toyota to pick a low quality tire for their great truck.
I just turned over 10,000 miles on my SR5 V8 4x4. Purchased my Tundra on June 3 and it has been flawless. No vibrations, creaks or rattles. I have the 265 Dunlops on the factory alloys. I don't see how the Dunlops themselves can be the cause of the vibrations, unless they are out of balance. Mileage has been very good, getting 16 city and 20-21 highway.
Check engine light is the result of no gas cap. Made the assumption that when the dealer filled it up that they put the cap back on. Didn't check before I drove off the lot (gee, how many do?). I pick up a gas cap after work tonight and everything will be fine.
I recently drove the Tundra 4x2. I still have reservations about the size and looks, however, the ride is, well, lexus like!
Glad I drove the Silverado and Tundra the same day. It took about 3 seconds to realize they are not in the same league. Sorry if my previous posts regarding looks, etc., were harsh. I should have driven first - what an experience.
By the way, what opinions does anybody have on the driving feel of the 4x2 vs. the 4x4? My wife, is concerned about driving the rear wheel drive in our harsh winters after spending the last 10 years driving a front wheel drive.
I don't want the 4x4 unless it drives much like the 4x2.
Drove both and I'd say you wouldn't know the difference from a steering response or handling perspective. Since I'm not about to put anything that costs this much on snow/ice covered roads with incompetent drivers in their 4WDs/SUVs and don't go offroading I went with the 2WD. I'll get a set of chains just like the Highway Patrol if I absolutely have to get out. Otherwise, I'll stay home until the plows get through.
I live in the NW and haven't been able to find any SR5 V-8 4X4 longbeds. I called Toyota and was told there are plenty of them out there. The dealers lie and say that none are being made yet. What's the scoop; why isn't Toyota sending any to the NW? Would those of you that have purchased a longbed let me know where you live so I can get a better idea where Toyota is shipping these guys. I want the extra carrying capacity of the longbed and, since it's just the pretty Lady and me, we don't need the access cab.
In response to changing the oil filter without dumping a quart on the floor. The rag beneath the filter doesn't help much. Try puting a plastic bag over the filter and up to the neck onto the block and twist the filter off and let it fall into the bag with the oil. Or if you like to build stuff: modify a milk carton to act like a funnel and attach a hose to the cap end a route the hose to your drain bucket.
About oil: A drain with the filter uses about 7 quarts. My guess is that at least a quart or more is in the oil cooler. Thus this engine has a large oil resevoir in relation to its displacement. Consequently, drain intervals can be extended to the manufactures recommended intervals.
BTW, I have been using synthetic oil since the late 70's and have changed oil at 7500mile intervals without incident in engines that have had known problems with top end lubrication. I always break the engines in for 3K miles with the factory oil and I don't baby them.
The factory bra does fit good ,alittle loose around the fog lights, the tabs that slide in under your headlights go in easy if you angle them down then push them in, took my tund for a 600 mile trip and wow , i see why they come with cruise control so you won't keep your foot in it, getting combined city/hwy 16.1 mpg and thats with ac going and not driving the speed limit ,if you know what i mean, no vibration on mine with 265 dunlops, the passenger seats ocillates a bit but it rides like a fine automobile, a real head turner, my third toy its the best
I expect to buy a Tundra Limited Access 4 x 2 in the next month or so.
I can't sort out just what the rear bumper wiring harness is, as compared to the mutually exclusive tow hitch. Does the hitch option include the rear bumper wiring? Both are port installed accessories.
What are the pros and cons of getting one option or the other at time of delivery versus adding this capability later when I need it.
Note my previous towing has been to get the lawn tractor in for repair on a borrowed trailer about once a year. Does Toyota make tractors?
deld, in western PA I was told that Toyota wasn't sending them much besides 4X4 Access Cabs, and that was all I could get. I laughed at this outright, and the salesman quickly corrected himself, saying, "Unless you want to wait a while for a special order." Now, fortunately, I'm right in the middle of the target market, and I want a 4X4 Access cab, but you should feel comfortable demanding exactly what you want, and ordering. And from the sound of things on this board, maybe see a few dealers to find out who will work hardest to get your truck quickest. You can order these trucks exactly as you want, you just have to wait for them. They might even be able to swap trucks with a mid-west dealer, where I get the impression the long-beds are going.
The tow hitch option DH (drop hitch) includes the trailer wiring package with a flat 4 prong connector. The advantage of the drop hitch is that your trailer will be more level than if you hitched it to the bumper since these trucks are fairly tall.
If you elect to install this stuff yourself, note that this truck and most other Toyotas require a converter/adapter (black box w/wires) since Toyotas use independent rear brake and turn signal lights. The cost for the trailer wiring converter is about $40 at Auto Zone.
Can anybody give me the correct part number for an oil filter for the Tundra V8. I assume it is the same as the '99 LC V-8, but none of the stores have '00 listings yet. Pep Boys computer doesn't show '00 yet. Thanks in advance.
I am responding to your request since there are probably not many V6 Tundra owners out there. Everyone wants that killer V8. I opted for the 6 because I specifically wanted the 5Speed. I was dissappointed that the stick is not available in the V8, but I am not unhappy with the 3.4. I had a pathfinder with a 3liter V6 and this Tundra will blow the doors off the Pathfinder. I did not need a large tow capacity and wanted to get better gas mileage than the Pathfinder. The Tundra only has 1000 miles and I'm already getting 18 mpg in nearly stopped rush hour traffic. Haven't been able to get an accurate highway number yet but I think I will easily get over 20mpg on the highway. The performance of the 3.4 is excellent and the stick gives you an extra kick. The ride is incredible (note: I do have the extended cab). Double wishbone suspension, rack & pinion steering (I think the only 4x4 with R&P). I haven't hit the dirt yet...maybe this weekend. Plus, it's made in the USA so when the UAW start complaining, let them know the Tundra plant employs 2300 workers in Indiana!!! As far as towing capacity, I helped a friend move and we packed the bed with a lot of weight. The handling was still quite good and no problems jumping onto the highways... Only good things to say about the Tundra....it cost a bit more, but, I will probably be trouble-free and that is peace of mind....Good luck in your decision
I just bought a 4x4 tundra access cab limited. My last vehicle was a 1996 4-runner on which I ran 265-75-R16's. My TUNDRA has the stock 265-70-R16's on it. I was wondering if anyone has tried running 265-75-R16's on a TUNDRA? Will they clear the wheel wells? I know the factory probably does not recommend them, but they worked just fine on my 4-runner and they were certainly not recommended on it either. Any input would be appreciated.
Sorry guys that I got rather worked up there. I've always hated that logic to base purchases on. The only Japanese vehicle I own is my Honda Magna along with my German BMW R1200c and American-made Harley. (with 30% Japanese parts)LOL!
Well, after months of intense scrutiny, I've decided on the Toyota Tundra, very nice truck overall. After reading all the posts, I'm still a bit puzzled on getting the best price. CarOrder.com can get the truck for invoice and sounds legit. Has anyone used this service to get their truck? I know I can get the dealer down close to the invoice, but at invoice would be tough. Any info would be appreciated....
I was just told by my dealer that Toyota has put a "stop-sell" on the alarm system while they re-design it. He said it will be 30-60 days. Has anyone else heard of this?????
This is the same alarm that Toyota has been selling for 2 years. I've got it on my 2000 Tundra and on the wife's 1999 4 Runner. No problems. Maybe you can enlighten me as to what problems I can expect?
Carorder is legit. I picked up my Tundra on Saturday. If you can get it for invoice go for it. I had heard people saying the price is up to around MSRP now. If that's the case go a different route. It took me 2 months to get mine, but that may be a location/options situation.
Good, glad to hear it. You know the old saying, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is..." I've got the Tundra Limited for RIGHT ON invoice, will wait the two months or whatever to get it.
To Toyloyal: I don't know what the problem is. I was just going to have it installed at the dealer in my new Tundra and they said that they were redesigning the "dashboard sensor". He said it would be available again in 30-60 days. It may have nothing to do with the system, but with how it applies to the new Tundra. I have sent an email to Toyota and asked for an explanation. If I hear anything, I will post it.
When I got home tonight I had a message from my dealer saying that they had my alarm and I could call to arrange installation. I never did get a response from Toyota Web Page, so now I don't know what was going on.
Carorder notified me that my Limited Access Cab (2WD) came in. I order it with the following options: Prem Sound with 6 CD Changer, All Weather Guard Package, Leather Captain's Chairs (Power), ABS, Spare Tire Locks, Security System (Door Locks), & Carpet Floor Mats. I also ordered the Towing Hitch & Colored-Keyed Running Board but the dealer didn't have it stock and I didin't want to wait so these items were deducted from the price. My price was $25,456 plus sales tax and lic.
I'm now looking for a tow hitch to pull a 4,200 pound boat. Anyone has any ideas? I am also shopping around for a cab hi topper. I really like the EXPO model from SNUGTop, but I don't think they make it for the Tundra. I plan to installed Line-X ASAP and buy the LUND Model 18083 Bug Shield that some one recommended in an earlier post.
In reply to Item #90, Snug Top has already made camper shells for the Tundra 4X4. Two weeks ago when I was having the Snug Top Lid installed on my 4X4 the dealer here in Prescott Valley, Arizona had a camper shell in the Platinum Metallic waiting to be installed. It looked nice but not as snazzy as my Platinum Metallic Lid!If you have any questions call me at laserfox@cybertrails.com.
I am also looking for a V6 and I have a couple of questions for you. How's the highway milege? Also, I was talking to a T-100 owner and he said his main complaint was the required maintenance, he specifically mentioned having to replace the timing belt at 50,000 mi. (I think) to keep the truck under warranty. Does you maintenance schedule say if this is still true? Thanks!
The v6 on the highway gets 20 mpg. The T100 with the old 3.0 V6 had a timing belt. I believe that the 3.4 V6 has a timing chain. The 2.7 in my former T100 had a timing chain and I expect my new 3.4 does too. The powertrain warranty runs out at 60000 anyway. The only thing you have to worry about the 3.4 is the head gasket problem. Toyota says that 98 and above are fixed, however should the problem arise, Toyota will fix it no matter what miles you have.
well I have had the v8 tund, for a while now and love it more than ever, just installed toyota class 4 hitch which was a breeze, the remote fuse box, and will install toyotas converter with flat plug, i heard if you use the after market type you can end up with electrical probs, don't need that, running boards are next, happy driving!!!!!
sorry I didn't respond sooner. I still can't give you a valid hiway mpg. Haven't taken any trips lately. I'm still getting a consistant 17.5-18mpg in Jersey rush hour traffic. Do have news for you Tindra bashers. Made my first car payment and hit a deer on the way home from work. It was a big ol' buck. Since the truck sits so high, he only hit the bumper. I saw him coming and almost stopped in time. Slid him across the road and he got up and took off! He hit solid and barely bent the passenger side bumper...$98 to pull it back out. Talk about lucky. If I hit him in my old Pathfinder it would have been $980+!!! Had the Pathfinder 12 years, not even a door ding, Tundra 1 month, met a deer. Getting the Hornet active deer whistle next!!! Like the truck more everyday I drive it...
I had the Toyota Alarm System installed in my new Tundra on Thursday. It works great, but I have one question. Is it normal when you turn the alarm off (as if you were preparing to enter the vehicle) for the door open light on the dash to light and stay lit until you open and close the door??? Any help would be appreciated.
My alarm does that too. I'm guessing it's normal. Overall, a great truck, but has anyone else developed an annoying rattle or plastic scrape sound from the center of the dash where it meets the windshield. I'd rather not have the service dept. take it apart to try and find it, but it's starting to make me nuts. Any remedies?
Thanks for the info. on the alarm. I have about 1400 miles on my Tundra with no noise at all. I had the same reservations when I had the alarm installed but the dealer did a great job. I would get it corrected because I know how annoying a rattle can get. I have developed a squeak/rattle in my 98 Avalon, it is going to the dealer to get fixed.
I would take your truck back to the dealer and let him try. Toyota bought back my T100 because of a tapping noise in the dash, which wound up being a broken weld in the roof. In my state, they are allowed to subtract for the # of miles before the problem is first reported to the dealer. Toyota, by the way, did the buyback voluntarily and put me in the Tundra cheap, cheap.
Anyone else getting lousy MPG? I have a limited 4x4 access cab and got 13.3 first tank, 13.84, second tank, mixed city and hwy.
Gas mileage has improved since covering the bed. Get a Toneau or Topper. Still checking mpg. Just turned 1000 mi. SR5, Access Cab, 4X4. Expecting better mileage after first oil change.
Have experiences the front end vibration periodically. That sure is a mystery. Have the TRD Off Road pkg with BF Goodrich tires. What was the concensus on the front end vibration? Has anyone had that checked?
Went for an oil change today. I had to argue with the guy to get him to put 7 quarts of oil in. He kept insisting it was full at 5 quarts. The dipstick is really hard to read with fresh oil, but still...
1 month old, 860 miles. No squeakes, no rattles, no vibrations (seat or front end). Been clayed, waxed, tire pressures set. Ready to go. Planning first oil change at about 1500. Still looking for a cap. Leer only shows models for T-100. Is it the same bed?
hey guys..absolute wits end here..Tundra 4x2 v8 at about 7000 miles..i don't drive hard..by any stretch of the imagination..i'm doin' about 60/40 highway/city driving and when i clock the mileage (top it off, empty it, top it off again and do the math) i'm getting anywhere bettween 11 to 13 (if i'm *real* lucky) MPG...this..blows..i love my tundra, but the mileage has gotta go..i took it into Toy of Carlsbad (in San Diego) and they ran some battery of driving tests on it and had the nerve to tell me that it was "capable" of getting 25-30mpgs...on what freaking planet? they said that this test (name of the test escapes me right now) monitors the fuel intake on the injectors and tells you how much it's taking in...when i looked at the test results, each test was from 2 seconds to 25 seconds long and at relativly low speeds...ok..so let's see..if i get my vehicle..ANY vehicle and get onto a road and COAST for 5-25 seconds i may just in fact get that kind of mileage...ok..here's my point (sorry, had to vent) WTF do i do here? the dealer refuses to acknowledge that there's a problem, basically accusing me of having my foot to the floorboard..if this were the case, i have far better things to be doing than driving 30+ miles to get this thing checked out..i gotta believe that the mileage is sucking because of how the engine works with the trans (to me it seems as though it *really* winds out each gear before it shifts) over a longer than 25 second frame...anyone have any thoughts?
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Has anyone seen any larger diameter nerf bars for the Tundra without the plastic steps?
Thanks ,Tim
GO K-STATE!
I have to say, the truck is nicely proportioned. The size is signifigantly bigger then the Tacoma, but still not as BIG as the Big 3 trucks, a plus in my book. I like the lines of the truck, it is smooth without being round like the F150, yet square without being as brick-like as the Chevy. I noticed that all the trucks are about the same length. The Reg. Cab has a longer bed and the Access Cab a shorter one. Also, 2WD and 4WD seemed to have nearly the same ground clearence and ride height. Another plus for those who don't want or need 4WD, but stil desire a tall ride with good clearence. The trucks I was looking at were Silver, Maroon and Green, the paint seemed quite good with no orange peel or waves. Every truck on the lot was a V8 SR5, no Limiteds, no V6's and a mix of 2WD and 4WD.
Overall, from a design standpoint, this truck is great, with only the flashy chrome grill detracting from an otherwise clean design. I liked it very much, and IMO, the best looking "full-size" truck on the road.
Just my opinion, purely subjective.
I took delivery of my Limited on July 13, 1999
and the dealer said it was one of the first Limited's offered to the public. It would be interesting to know what number it was.
Tuck.
Also, is there a fix for the steering wheel vibration problem that I have read about even more frequently than the seat situation. I thought I remember someone mentioning a heavier steering wheel, but that just seems like a band aid for the problem.
Do you think Toyota will have a technical service bulletin covering one or both of these problems??
Would sure like a response.
Thanks
606
$300,000.00 on Liability.
$1000.00 on Medical Payments.
$300,000.00 for Uninsured motorists.
$250.00 deduct on comprehensive
$500.00 deduct on collision.
This is together with my homeowners policy.
The company is Heritage Insurance.
I don't believe this is too bad?
Tuck.
on the same road, with the same speed. Tires have been balanced by Toyota dealer. Balance had helped, it used to vibrate at 58-62mph all the time. My captain chair also vibrates if no one is seating in. I love my truck, and hope Toyota would have a cure for these problems. People that I talked to thought the Dunlop tires were the cause. I'll appreciate your response.
Im curious....do you have 2wd or 4wd???
606
Thanks a million for all your helpful responses! Seems like you have become our resident factory man. Some time ago you posted that the 2001 Tundra would have a redesigned rear seat. "Much more comfortable" I believe you said. Any information as to details of the redesign, when available, and if the new seat could be retro fitted to a 2000 model? I will be purchasing a Tundra, but this might make the 2001 worth the wait.
Thanks for you response in advance.
Glad I drove the Silverado and Tundra the same day. It took about 3 seconds to realize they are not in the same league. Sorry if my previous posts regarding looks, etc., were harsh. I should have driven first - what an experience.
By the way, what opinions does anybody have on the driving feel of the 4x2 vs. the 4x4? My wife, is concerned about driving the rear wheel drive in our harsh winters after spending the last 10 years driving a front wheel drive.
I don't want the 4x4 unless it drives much like the 4x2.
About oil: A drain with the filter uses about 7 quarts. My guess is that at least a quart or more is in the oil cooler. Thus this engine has a large oil resevoir in relation to its displacement. Consequently, drain intervals can be extended to the manufactures recommended intervals.
BTW, I have been using synthetic oil since the late 70's and have changed oil at 7500mile intervals without incident in engines that have had known problems with top end lubrication. I always break the engines in for 3K miles with the factory oil and I don't baby them.
I can't sort out just what the rear bumper wiring harness is, as compared to the mutually exclusive tow hitch. Does the hitch option include the rear bumper wiring? Both are port installed accessories.
What are the pros and cons of getting one option or the other at time of delivery versus adding this capability later when I need it.
Note my previous towing has been to get the lawn tractor in for repair on a borrowed trailer about once a year. Does Toyota make tractors?
If you elect to install this stuff yourself, note that this truck and most other Toyotas require a converter/adapter (black box w/wires) since Toyotas use independent rear brake and turn signal lights. The cost for the trailer wiring converter is about $40 at Auto Zone.
The ride is incredible (note: I do have the extended cab). Double wishbone suspension, rack & pinion steering (I think the only 4x4 with R&P). I haven't hit the dirt yet...maybe this weekend. Plus, it's made in the USA so when the UAW start complaining, let them know the Tundra plant employs 2300 workers in Indiana!!! As far as towing capacity, I helped a friend move and we packed the bed with a lot of weight. The handling was still quite good and no problems jumping onto the highways...
Only good things to say about the Tundra....it cost a bit more, but, I will probably be trouble-free and that is peace of mind....Good luck in your decision
"stop-sell" on the alarm system while they re-design it. He said it will be 30-60 days. Has anyone else heard of this?????
Got any insurance nightmares for me?
I don't know what the problem is. I was just going to have it installed at the dealer in my new Tundra and they said that they were redesigning the "dashboard sensor". He said it would be available again in 30-60 days. It may have nothing to do with the system, but with how it applies to the new Tundra. I have sent an email to Toyota and asked for an explanation. If I hear anything, I will post it.
When I got home tonight I had a message from my
dealer saying that they had my alarm and I could
call to arrange installation. I never did get a
response from Toyota Web Page, so now I don't
know what was going on.
Kent
I'm now looking for a tow hitch to pull a 4,200 pound boat. Anyone has any ideas? I am also shopping around for a cab hi topper. I really like the EXPO model from SNUGTop, but I don't think they make it for the Tundra. I plan to installed Line-X ASAP and buy the LUND Model 18083 Bug Shield that some one recommended in an earlier post.
Thanks!
Buzzman2
Overall, a great truck, but has anyone else developed an annoying rattle or plastic scrape sound from the center of the dash where it meets the windshield. I'd rather not have the service dept. take it apart to try and find it, but it's starting to make me nuts. Any remedies?
Anyone else getting lousy MPG? I have a limited 4x4 access cab and got 13.3 first tank, 13.84, second tank, mixed city and hwy.
Have experiences the front end vibration periodically. That sure is a mystery. Have the TRD Off Road pkg with BF Goodrich tires. What was the concensus on the front end vibration? Has anyone had that checked?