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Just an update:
The Jeep drives flawlessly. Reminds us of our Lexus RX300. Its very smooth.
The buying experience was excellent. The dealer spent an hour on a Sunday night going thru all of the features. They did not rush us.
HOBLIT-HAYNES DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP
801 MAIN STREET
WOODLAND, CA 95695-3596
2005 Grand Cherokee Limited
5.7 V-8
GPS 6 disk CD
Supplemental side air bags
Rear Backup system
Sirius Satellite radio
Tire Prssure monitor
Popular 4X4 group
Chrome Clad Wheels
Sticker - $41,815
Cost $38,502.00
fees $45.00
Fees $8.75
Sub $38,555.75
Rebates $3,500.00
Net $35,055.75
Sales Tax $3,180.85
Lisc $311.00
Total $38,547.60
I added full maintenance plan for 5 years / 75K service every 6K minles and Max Care extended warranty for 5/85K
Cost $2160 for both plans.
$12160 down payment.
48 months @ 5.99% 670/month
05' Grand Cherokee Limited - Blue with Greystone Interior
- 5.7L Hemi
- Quadra Drive II
- DVD Navigation
- Parksense
- Premium Tire/Pressure monitor
Thanks to everyone for posting on this site, it has helped me negotiate a great price on a new Jeep.. I'm just waiting for my VW Jetta to sell or get a good deal on a trade in. I also want to trade in the Jeep so they aren't wanting to give me much for them and they don't seem to be selling.
I was informed it would be 6-8 weeks before it would come in. I chose to have the dealer locate the one I wanted from another dealer and do a "Dealer Trade."
This is actually kinda funny, but the one I picked out ended up being a demo. It seems the owner liked it so much he started driving it and has put on 1500 miles. I am not interested in that one, so now back to the drawing board. I called Jeep Customer Rebates Center, (800)227-0757 to find out how long rebates will be in effect. They have extended it thru April 4. And they will not know until 04/05/05 if they are extended further.
6-8 weeks was what I was quoted also, just was wondering if anyone had ordered recently and received theirs. I ordered it about 2 weeks ago and when i stopped by last Sat, they said a VIN number had been assigned and was scheduled for delivery sometime in April. Any idea on how to track it through production? I also tried to have the dealer locate one within a 200 mile radius, but no luck on the color/options I was looking for. Only one we found was completely loaded and about 2.5K more than I wanted to spend.
My dealer told me that the current rebates (excluding the financing rebate) would apply as of the order date and I would get any applicable financing rebate that was available at the date the GC arrived and I took ownership.
Thanks for your help.
Call Jeep directly and simply ask for any help. I got the number off of jeep.com and they were very helpful.
The rebate center informed me if you order before the end of a rebate period, the dealer MUST give you the best rebate. That is if the rebates are more when your car comes in, you get the additional amount and if they are less you still get the highest amount. This only applies if you ORDER the SUV.
According to two different dealerships, Jeep is not taking orders for the black hemi's at this time.
Paulie wrote earlier that the price should not be much different if you order than if you bought it off the lot. I had three dealerships say that it would be approximately $400-$600 more due to dealer holdbacks. I honestly have no clue if that is true. What options did you get, list price and finally what did you pay?
Thanks
Rusty
And the other information was true about the rebates. As I stated in an earlier post, the dealer in Chillicothe MO guaranteed me the highest rebate available -- either by order date or by delivery date.
It's worth the wait. It's one heck of a machine.
Please outline your deal, options and price. I may end up going with a different color and ordering it so I would like to do my homework first. Also, what part of the country are you in?
Thanks
Rusty
I went in as a Affliates rewards program member (Chrysler supplier), so I received a set 1% under invoice price of the vehicle. Only complain I had with the Affliates program was that I eneded up having to pay about an extra $150 for regional advertising that is gernally waived for the consumer (the dealer showed me the invoice witht he program price on it), so I'm figuring I was about $250 under invoice all together. I don't have the numbers in front of me right now, but will post them later. I do remember sticker on the truck was 40,575. The location in Rochester NY, dealer was Doan Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
In following up to a previous post I made regarding the very poor visibility in the new 2005 jeep grand cherokee.. I actually went out and traded it in at a loss for another new vehicle.
After driving for 1 month I coulnd't get used to it and my fiance' hated it also. Others/family who drove the vehicle said it was so bad it was an accident waiting to happen. I got headaches driving it becuase I was looking straight at the rearview mirror while driving and the A-Pilars so badly obstructed my view.
So on saturday, I traded it in for a big loss (6K) and got another vehicle. I would rather loose lots of $$ than kill someone like I almost did 2 weeks ago because I couldn't see them walking past my vehicle on the right. That my friends is very scary. $6k is nothing when you compare insurance in Massachusetts and if I was at fault for any accident.. chrysler wouldn't do anything and certainly would never accept partial fault for such a crap design..its too bad.. because I am a loyal jeep owner and previously owned two other Jeep GCs.
So buyers beware, the 2005 Jeep GC looks kewl and rides smooth, but the visibility is horendous and an accident waiting to happen.
Keith
Massachusetts.
I know this isn't funny but when I read your post:
"because I couldn't see them walking past my vehicle on the right,"
I thought is must have been one of two things:1) you were driving really really slow or 2) they were walking really really fast.
I have driven the new GC a few times and honestly I did not notice any difference in the blind spots between the 2005 and my 1999. I'm curious, were you a previous GC owner? Were you backing up or what?
Thank you for your cooperation.
05 GC Limited, Green/khaki, Hemi, Chrome wheels, Navi,backup sensor,tow package, side airbags and a few other things I really wasn't looking for but it had. Basically I paid invoice, received all the rebates including the $500 Heroes or something like that (EMT Certification). It was a really good deal considering that they filled the jeep up, gave me a free oil change and very good trade in on My Jetta Wagon. Very nice, busy dealership full of last minute Linda's & Larry's (like us of course!). I talked to the parts guy and he didn't think the IPOD connection kit would work with the stereo's in these new jeeps. I will still check with Monster & Audiovox and post on one of these forums if I ever figure this stuff out. Also I am about to go out right now and try and pair my Cingular Motrola V551 phone. X your fingers for me.
-1% below invoive off the bat
-must pay a $75 program fee to join
-must be graduating from college I believe 6 months prior to purchase date or have graduated up to 2 years before purchase date
-proof of employment or future employment
This is not a plug for Chrysler/Jeep either, believe me. I am simply informing recent College grads of the great deals out there willing to be had. I have test driven the JGC and plan to buy by the end of the month. This SUV rides silky smooth and looks great. I was turned off of the 4-Runner and Pathfinder due to higher price and 3rd row seating. Hope this helps anyone in the market for an SUV. I hope to be posting my buying experience very shortly. - Forty
MSRP $32,830
Final Price: (including TTL) of $19,000
This includes the $3,500 in rebates and discounts and $10,000 for my trade (2002 Chevrolet Trailblazer with 89,000 miles on it). Now I just have to decide on what color. I gave the dealer three colors (Silver, White and Light Khaki) and they have come back with all three. At first I really liked the Khaki but the more I look at it the less I like it. I will probably go with the silver. I will post my final deal when it is completed. I think this is a pretty good deal.
You should look into some additional rebates that you might be able to get out of the dealer. In addition to the $2500 cash back/financing deal, there is a $1000 rebate for going through Chrysler Finance (which it sounds like you are using), and another $1000 "Exclusive Cash Bonus" that Jeep direct mailed/emailed to people on its mailing list (frankly I have no idea how or why I am on their mailer, but I am). See if you can get that rebate as well - might have to come from Jeep HQ, though, so you should contact them rather than the dealer.
I too am shopping around, and I followed the Edmunds "buying tips" and got a number of prices through email for the "base" 2005 Grand Cherokee (MSRP $28500). Here is the breakdown, including the $3500 in rebates mentioned above (and not including the additional $1000 coupon I received via email or my trade):
MSRP: $28,500
Edmunds Invoice: $26,630
Edmunds TMV: $27,386 (w/o rebates)
Prices I was quoted:
$22,451 (dealership on ebay, located in Indiana)
$22,882 (local Long Island, NY dealer)
$22,959 (local)
$23,800 (local)
All of these prices were done over email with no haggling or negotiating, so it's possible I can work a little more to get a better price. That said, however, I suspect that some of the dealers are building the military/recent college grad rebate into the price (both $500, though I don't qualify for either), so I'm pretty sure I have that little surpise waiting for me when I get to the dealership.
Let me know if anyone has had a similar experience/price.
That's awful, but you should be pretty happy with the fact that you were strong enough to walk out when they pulled that nonsense. I put things on hold until tomorrow, at which time I plan to take another go at negotiations before I actually visit a dealership. I'll let you know.
MSRP: 32,900
Rebates $3,500
Reduction in sticker price $2,400
Trade in $8000
Total after TTL: 20,583
They also will install U-Connect for free because when the Jeep came in the interior was the wrong color Khaki instead of Greystone/Dk. Kahaki. They asked me what they could do to make it OK with me and I said install the U-connect for free. They went for it and I took the deal. This was a $400 value. I could not get the exclusive cash bonus because this is only mailed randomly to individuls who visit the Jeep dealership. I think that I got a good deal and I am happy.
Bright Silver with Gray interior
Here is the deal I got:
5.7L Hemi MDS V8 Engine
Customer Preferred Package 25K
Electronic Infotainment Sys Group
4x4 Popular Equipment Group
Navigation System w/ 6-CD/MP3 Player
Sirius Satellite Radio
17x7.5: Aluminum Chrome Clad Wheels
ParkSense Rear Back-up System
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display
MSRP: $42,930 (includes $695 NJ Destination Charge)
Price of Vehicle: 36,000
Vehicle Protection Program: $117.00
Subtotal: $36,117.00
State Sales Tax: $2167.02
Tire Tax: $7.50
Registration/Title: $75.00
Documentary Fee: $147.00
Factory Rebate: $3,500
Final Price: $35,013.52.
After weeks of research, reading this forum and contacting several dealerships for quotes, I think I got a very good deal. I'm very happy with the car.
How much did you pay for the 7 year/70,000 mile warranty?
Thanks
Patrick
has anyone used this?
were there any catches (other than the $75 fee)? it seems to be almost too good of a deal to be true.
Here is the deal I'm looking at:
'05 JGC Laredo 4x4 (just assume no options)
Invoice: $25,935
Marketing Fee: +423
Destination Fee: +695
7 Yr/70,000: +970
Dealer Prep: +250
College grad program:
1% under invoice ( -283)
Program: +75
Jeep rebate: (-2,500)
Jeep Financing cash: (-1,000)
Military: (-1,500)
FINAL (w/o tax) $23,065
I'm buying through the military overseas car sales so we get a $1500 military rebate. Also, all of the costs are "no haggle" prices.
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I'm looking at a Limited 4.7 G package with sunroof and heated seats would like chrome wheels as well.
Price 36,415 without chrome wheels
E-price and Rebate 30,041.
This is right off the web sit at Lawless Woburn,Ma
Could get a price of 29,000 at the end of the month.
What do you think any one else comments?
Sounds good to me...
Whoa,
Good deal I can't find a Limited MSRP under 36,415 in MA, NH
What part of the country did you buy from?
Rocky Mountain Grand looks to be a good deal has most of the best options plus its own uniqueness.
MSRP 34,955
E-price and Rebates 28,199.00
28Y package
V8
Leather
Sunroof
Nice Wheels
all the good stuff
What you think?
Rocky Mountain Y28 package or Limited not sure which yet
Rocky price is 28,199 plus the 1,300 for V8 so Price with rebates and incentives $29,500 quoted $29,072,
List 35,000 Green with the Kahkai interior.
Limited G package List 37,380
Sunroof, Heated seats, Sirius, Green paint,Chrome wheels,
Price with rebates and incentives $31,147
Any comments?
watch out for those marketing and dealer prep fees! wow! and program? what's that? there's lots of room to haggle there - especially with those catchy fees!
to give you an idea, here's an ad for a no-frills JGC in my local paper:
http://www.boston.com/cars/specials/lawless/
$21,555
i think you can do *much* better than $23k
His purchasing price (which I thought was high) was $18,999. But the biggest problem that I had was with the extended warranty cost that I found in the contract.
After faxing me over his purchasing invoice, I noticed that they charge him $2,545!!!! for an extended warranty. I totally believed that they took him for a ride. Since his English is not that good, I am convince that the finance manager took complete advantage of him. No only I think that $2,545 is far too excessive for an extended warranty, but I think that it is definetively worthless, do you guys agree???
I am planning to write a letter to Toyota and to the dealership itself to complain about the deceptive tactics of the manager, but I wanted to see if you guys know if you can get a refund after buying an extended Warranty, or have that charge taken off the total price financed.
Any ideas or experiences will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
My husband and I used the college grad rebate and no it's not to good to be true. The dealership we went to was not even aware of it (very rural area, not too many college grads looking at GC around here) until I brought it to their attention. We used that plus the 2500 cash back (this was in March) and declined the 1000 CFC. With my trade and TTL, our Laredo 4X4 with F package, Quadra trac II, All Terrain tires, tow hitch, and ESP (MSRP$33,110.00) came to approx $24,000.00. They would not let us combine the college grad discount with the firefighter discount, said the two were not combinable. All in all I was pretty happy with the deal.
He may have been taken, but we can't determine that without more information. Not trying to be critical, but it sounds as if the dealership may have taken advantage, but if he is of legal age and sound mind and can enter into a legally binding contract, it may be too late to unwind the deal. Wish he could have gotten some advice before or at least during the negotation stage, might have been able to save him.
Also, why would anyone finance a 4 year old vehicle for 6 years? Is the financing through a bank, credit union or Chrysler Financial?
Bought my Jeep Grand Cherokee.
28X Package Red,Khaki interior, Leather, sunroof, power seats, power pedals, 245 65 tires, satellite radio, 6 changer CD,MP3 Player....
MSRP 34,805
Price paid 25,300
Trade was 95' Grand
Very Happy great seats love stereo needs a Sub though.
Love the stereo controls on the wheel. Nice ride I'm seeing more and more on the rode.
No other SUV compared in style and comfort!
But are the prices everyone listed fair game for leasing as well?
Here is a breakdown:
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Rocky Mountain Edition (28Y package)
Trailer Tow Group IV
Off Road Group (skid plates & tow hooks)
Electronic Stability Program
4.7L V8 MPI Engine
-Quadra-Trac II Active Full-time 4WD
AM/FM Stereo w/In-Dash 6-Disc CD/MP3
Black Crystal Clearcoat
Medium Slate Gray Interior
MSRP ($35,900)
+Title Fee (25)
+Document Fee (144)
+NH tax (0)
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= (36,069)
-Rebates (3,500)
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= (32,569)
-Negotiatiated Discount (3,626)
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=Price Paid: ($28,943)
So I paid 80.62% of MSRP (I saved $7,126)
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I was up front and honest with the salespeople, I told them I was shopping around for the best price and even looking at different vehicles.
With all the resources available on the internet, I knew about what the dealer paid and I offered them a fair profit.
Thanks much for the input.
Have found some advice on a couple websites: www.carbuyingtips.com and www.fightingchance.com. These websites can go into a bit of info overload, but for the most part, I've found them helpful. One of them, I forget which (Fighting Chance?) will tell you what sort of dealer holdback is on the vehicle, so you have more info for negotiating.
My husband and I are interested in purchasing a JGC w/ the 26Y-Rocky Mountain package, seems to have all the options we're looking for, and at a pretty reasonable price.
Yahoo! Autos and this Edmunds site have provided me with a couple of printouts.
Can you suggest any others?
Also, it appears Chrysler is going to offer a similar deal to GM's "employee pricing" deal in a couple of days.
Employee pricing or X plan on Ford which I use since my employer buys Fords really is great for employees and friends when the standard rebates are in place.
For example we bought a 2004 Ford Taurus SEL last OCT. The sticker was 27,200, the X plan price was 24500 and then we received $5500 in rebates. This brought the car in below 20K.
The programs now are really just another version of the older programs.
On the employee plans the factory makes a payment to the dealer to cover expenses so there is still money on the table.
The point is try and get the Jeep for 200 to 500 below invoice and then apply the old rebates, if this is possible.
Hope this helps.....
I picked up the JGC Limited with the Hemi back in March via CarsDirect. I heartily recommend checking them out. Total with CA tax, title & license came in at $38k. I got a screaming deal, and I'd recommend everyone check out online sellers like these guys. No icky slimey salesmen to fight past and no need to haggle! Only downsides are that you may have to drive a bit to take delivery and if you're extra picky about colors and some options you may have to settle for something different. But on the other hand, they may be able to find you options your local dealers are being less than helpful in locating. I was looking for the Midnight Blue exterior and none of my local dealers could find it, but CarsDirect did.
Here's the run down, direct from the listing when I bought in March:
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited w/5.7L HEMI Magnu 4dr 4x4
CarsDirect Price: $ 36,547.00
Customer Rebate Expires 03/31/05 ($2500)
Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic (5-45RFE) STD
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats STD
3.73 Axle Ratio STD
Monotone Paint Application STD
Normal Duty Suspension STD
Engine: 5.7L Hemi Multi Displacement $1316
Quick Order Package 25K $1694
Supplemental Side Air Bags $431
4x4 Popular Equipment Group w/EZB $519
SIRIUS Satellite Radio $172
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display $75
Electronic Infotainment System Group $1056
Radio: 6CD/Full Map GPS Display Navigation $1056
Wheels: 17 in. x 7.5 in. Chrome Clad Aluminum $722
Parksense Rear Back-Up System $224
Chrome removal credit ($722)
They gave me a credit on the chrome wheels, which I did not want. But the Dealer I took delivery from fell off on his promise to swap out for the standard Al 5 spokes, so I essentially got the cheeky "clad" wheels no charge. And I went with the Chrysler Financing that bought it down another $1500 if I recall correctly. The rate was better than my bank could put together so it was a no brainer.
If you check now, their offered price is down in the $35k range. But they don't yet seem to be reflecting the Employee Discount Program. It's worth contacting them to find out if they are participating in that program. They usually honor all the incentives available, like the College Grad and others. I had an additional $500 off coupon that Jeep sent me which the happily accepted.
And they'll do factory orders too. But at this point, I think if you want to do a factory order on the Grand, you'll have to wait a bit as DC is now taking orders for only the 06's from what I've heard. Then CarsDirect may not be able to help as they don't yet have pricing for the new model year. But again, very much worth checking them out!
Best of luck on the shopping!
Price paid was BEFORE adding: Tax/Title/blah-blah, advertising charges (regional charges are apparently non-negotiable), and purchase of extended warranty at dealer's cost.