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MILEAGE: It's pushing 4 yrs so I do not recall the exact time our mileage improved but I would give it at least 1000 mis (we got a new 300M a few months ago, I did not get my current 20/27mpg in first 1000 mis either). For years now I get around 15-17mpg in town depending on temps, if selectrac 4WD is off/on, etc. We get 20 @ 75mph and otherwise "ideal conditions" of 70 degrees and no wind. It clearly goes up to low 20s when driving 60mph on a 2 lane highway. I call the mileage "acceptable" but nothing to write home about especially compared to our 250hp 300M. I guess it's the SUV tax with a higher profile large tire vehicle...or something.
CHROME WHEELS: I don't have them on the Jeep but I got caught with the 300M the same way. Plastic coated, not happy on even a $32K vehicle (we paid $24K closeout but still...). They look gorgeous now but will they in 7years after a couple of high curb scrapes? Must be a new DC thing. At least I have a full size spare if only one gets bunged up.
I bought my 2001 JGC Laredo on 9/30/01 (don't know if that qualifies as "recent"...I bought it off the lot after the 2002's were in. Sticker was about 31K and change; I drove it away for $26,600. I was paying cash, so no financing. Overall it was a decent experience; the people at the dealership were courteous and not pushy, and since then I've had a good experience with the service department when I've needed it (which hasn't been often).
Benjamin
I PURCHASED NEW LOADED JGC WITH MSRP $33,000. WITH TRADE (02 EXPLORER)
PAID JUST UNDER $17,500. IN CHICAGO AREA.
INCLUDES 10 DISC CD CHANGER AND SUNROOF....
ASK FOR INVOICE PRICE...NOT MSRP AND EXPECT TO PAY SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER INVOICE PRICE OR WALK AWAY. REMEMBER THE CAR NOTE IS IN YOUR NAME; ITS YOUR MONEY.
tidester, host
Also, did $4k discount include $1,000 Rebate and $1,000 Chrysler finance bonus?
We were able to purchase a 04 Grand Cherokee 4WD
Rocky Mtn.edition for $9300 out the door
the Santa Fe MSRP was $23K compared to $33K on the Jeep. So we're happy with our deal
now may be the time to purchase an 04 IF YOU COULD FIND 1
MSRP = $34,940
Invoice = $32,604
$0 out of pocket
39 months = $449.42 + tax
Total Cap Cost = $32,229.74
Residual = 55% - $19,217
Money Factor = 0.002250
15k miles a year
ChryslerFinancial
Yes, it's not a good deal given there's $2500 cash back from Jeep and Chrysler Financial. Further, the money factor is huge.
What is a good deal on this car? Anyone have any good deals in So. Cal.? 4x4 or 4x2. Thanks.
whether or not you can get into hold back to further drive down the cap cost is something upto that particular dealer and their determination to close you on the lease.
The last time I was at this dealer (in July 2000), they were jerks. They're still jerks now. What's funny, is that they're asking 2K above sticker for the Hemi! This contrasts with another dealer, in Philadelphia, on Route 1, that offers the Jeep with 6K off (but they won't let me test drive a Hemi either!).
So, I think I'll wait until the Dynamic Handling System becomes available in the Spring or whenever, before another attempt at a test drive. Maybe by then some of the dealers will be more cooperative.
P.S.: 1) What are the City/Highway EPA figures for the 4.7L with Quadra-Drive; it's not listed on the EPA's Web site--but I suppose it's 15/20.
2) Will the Dynamic Handling System be available for the 4.7L, or just for the 5.7L?
I recently test drove a limited w/ hemi and the truck had a distinct whistle that changed with speed. Has anyone else noticed this (presumably wind) related issue?
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The finance guy resembled a con man from the get go. Trying to explain to my 75 year old mother how lousy Jeep reliability was in order to get her to go on a extended warranty. I guess I should have been more alert after that observation but in my previous car buying experience I had yet to encounter a dishonest dealer. Now I have.
I've contacted the dealer but have yet to hear back.
My guess is they decided they were giving you too much for your trade and that's why they pulled the original offer.
My only suggestion is to bump it up to the sales manager and spell it out for them. Generally dealers will offer these specials to get you in the door because they think no one really wants the base vehicle so they can do whatever they want with a higher optioned vehicle.
You could always call the BBB and report them. I doubt you would get any satisfaction however.
Invoice on that car is $24,880 including destination so they would be losing money if they sold it to you for $23,500.
That was $23,500 AFTER $2000 total in rebates. So, they were selling it for $25,500--which is above invoice.
kbb subtracts it from MSRP but not from invoice. I don't know why that is unless they view it as strictly cash back to the customer and not a subtraction off of the invoice cost. Edmunds is unclear.
So if that is the case, they wouldn't be doing all that bad selling it to you for $23,500 considering they're also getting a holdback which is either 3% or 5%. I don't remember which.
Edit: Jeep holdback is 3% of MSRP.
I want to buy JGC Limited 5.7 Hemi fully loaded.
I checked Edmund and didn't notice any rebates or incentives specified for January.
Do they have it and I missed it or no luck this month? Also, what would be the good price
for JGC Limited, 5.7, with Navigation, DVD, Sunroof, Leather, BlooTooth? Dialer mentioned something
in the lower 40s, I'd like to check before commiting. Also, I was going to pay cash, so no financing
is nessasary. Thanks in advance,
--Al
Also, paying cash won't likely get you a lower price - dealerships make money off the financing, so they actually prefer that you finance. However, having cash gives you the ability to "buy this car today," and the salesperson knows there won't be any surprises in the finance office, such as finding out that you don't qualify for a good enough interest rate. So, mention that you're a buyer ready to pay cash today, make an offer, and you'll at least be seen as a buyer to be taken seriously.
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Thank you for your recent email regarding information on the Dynamic Handling System (DHS) for the 2005 Grand Cherokee.
The DHS will be a late availability offering on the 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. At this time, pricing and an exact release date are not
available.
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Looks like we aren't getting any 'official' information any time soon.
paule: Rebates or cash back have no impact on the MSRP or invoice prices. They impact the ~actual~ price you pay, but the MSRP and invoice figures do not change. They are what they are.
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It contains some good tips!
tidester, host
This seems like an excellent deal; what part of the country do you live in? Also, for clarification, was the purchase price at $700 off Invoice or off MSRP? Can you tell us what the MSRP/Invoice/Purchase Price of your vehicle was? Finally, do you know if similar deals were available for GC Limiteds with the Hemi engine, or whether dealers are more reluctant to discount Hemi-equipped vehicles? Thanks. pjt
Thanks for the info. Did you buy before 12/31; is that why you got such a good deal? I agree that the 4.7L V8 is probably enough engine for regular driving, but the Dynamic Handling System will only be available with the Hemi. Also, the extra $1,200 for the Hemi doesn't seem like a lot to buy best-in-class power. I guess the advertising has gotten to me. Also, the V6 in my wife's '98 GC Limited is so sluggish that I'm willing to go overboard on the new Jeep. pjt
I know that the fleet guys at Scottsdale Airpark Chrysler Jeep (in the Phoenix, AZ area) offer flat pricing of $300 under invoice on most or all Jeep models. But keep in mind that the invoice these guys work off has a bunch of small charges for advertising, customer mailings, 8 gallons of gas, etc. These fees add about $300 to the invoice, so it evens out. I expect other Phoenix-area dealers will offer similar pricing ($300 under invoice) if you deal with the fleet or internet departments.
NHTSA (government transportation unit) has very specific language in regards to where they are placed and exactly what they look like. There is also some form of wording about them being "permanently" attached to the visors.
Everything about them including the wording and color is specified. I could post all of the gory details on Monday if you were that interested.
They are usually heat molded into the visor fabric and I would be highly surprised if anyone could tell you how to remove them.
I think the only thing you could do would be to have the visors recovered over the stickers.
Mckinney Jeep Easley, SC. There doing rebate, discount, invoice, even minus holdback., Red Tag, you can see bottom price on every vehicle.
Your wife's V6 has nowhere near the power of the 4.7 V8. Do some research and educate yourself