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Basically, the last orders placed are being used to 'tidy up' the end of the '07 production. Those orders that don't fit in will be referred back to dealers to be changed to '08s.
All this means that some orders may arrive quickly, others may take the last known lead time, and yet others will not be built at all. Kind of the good, the bad, and the ugly!
are they just playing games (lowering the vehicle base price, and raising the financing charge)?
What are the current res value/money factors on this model?
trying to get this deal done today
Does that sound familiar to recent purchasers?
tks SRM
Having said that, you're not going to get a good price until the dealer can see that you're ready to buy, rather than just checking out the prices.
2007 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2D Sport Utility
CarMax No-Haggle Price: $24,999*
Dealer Prep: $0
MSRP: $27,710
Factory Invoice: $25,820
Savings From MSRP: $2,711
When it comes to vehicle pricing the only thing I know for a certainty, is that there's a lot I don't know. The only people that really know the full story are the dealer principal, and maybe his CPA. Certainly not any of the sales staff or management, none of whom could care less. They only need to know how much a vehicle can be sold for at any given time, which is constantly moving target.
Invoice price is a real number, holdback and advertising can be guessed at, the rest is a fog. Every business has different costs for selling the same item, some fixed some variable, so some places can profitably make a deal that others can't match. Additionally, although invoice pricing is the same for all dealers, incentives of various types are not.
The only important number is the one that you pay. The best price is never the advertised one, even at a 'no haggle' store. The cleanest way to that best price is to negotiate an 'OTD' (Out the Door) price. That's the price you pay (plus tax, tag and title) to drive away as an owner. No dealer prep, no doc fees, no add-ons.
Simple!
Yes, I did read your post and this was part of my reply:
".....some orders may arrive quickly, others may take the last known lead time, and yet others will not be built at all."
I hope it gets built for you.
Stopped by the dealer yesterday(5-30) to check the status..He once again called Detroit & he was told that his dealership had used up their May allocation(he didn't know this?)...Anyway, since the order was given a vehicle order number, there was a good chance it would be picked up starting June 1st...The guy from Detroit was going to track the order......He told me to stop by tomorrow 6-1 & check...
We'll see what happens....
Ive been to several dealers to check about trade in value. My experience with trade inns have never been good but for one which was my honda accord.
Dealers have quoted me for $17,900 to $20K BEFORE we ever got started on negotiations for a vehicle. I wanted to know where they stood on my trade in before i started all the hemhawing....it might be backwards but to me if they are going to low ball me on the trade even if ive negatiated a great price but get my trade stolen its all a waste of time.
Anyway i must say the prices offered suprised me in a positive way...ive just been making regular payments on a 66 month note and based upon the median value offered i could trade in and not be upside down and probably could retail her and have $$$ in my pocket.
A good example is my Pontiac Vibe which i paid $21K for in Feb. 06 and now is only worth $13K...shew thats some serious depreciation...glade i plan on keeping it for many more years.
It might be that my jeep is a wrangler unlimited and a rubi dunno....but im very happy with whats being offered and i thought it would have been Much less.....
Good post. Some people seem to enjoy casting doom and gloom without having any grasp of the real facts.
Wranglers have always had a better retained value than virtually any other vehicle out there.
Thanks
If you ever want to sell it, or trade it, you might want to consider 4wd.
I know that the MSRP has continued to rise over the past year from Jeep but does that mean that their invoice has gone up too?
Absolutely.
I'm wondering if this is worth the money with GM's declining quality.......
GM??? :surprise:
Actually, while anyone can produce the odd lemon, Jeep's build quality has been very good for many years now.
I'm not an attorney but I find that totally w/o merit that one can charge non residents higher prices.
out-of-state consumers.
Hypothetical example, sell up to 10 cars this month, no incentive. Sell 15 and get an extra $100 per car, sell 25 and get an extra $500 per car over the 15. Or maybe it gets paid on every car over ten, and maybe it doesn't get paid until the next quarter.
It can be of benefit to you if your deal takes the dealer to that 'stair step' to the next level, but it's not something you can count on when negotiating.
I think the contents of that post conform to forum title exactly.
With luck you should be able to time it perfectly. Yes, I'm sure you can place an order. Go and have a chat with your dealer.
Good Luck!!..
Let me know how it goes...
Does anyone have MyGig? I ordered it, although the dealer said he has never seen one.
subliminal price increases throughout this year. Due to the fact this model is a hot seller.
I nearly choked. I paid about this much for my Infinity G35 two years ago.
Dealer told me that he was giving me "fleet price." He went on to say that there is a 9K mark up, because it is summer time and Jeeps are in such hot demand.
Whatever. I think I may consider another type of vehicle if the next dealer gives me the same party line.