Chrysler Town & Country Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • greener1greener1 Member Posts: 37
    jensen, did you have to give a down payment, or was there only the $500 and tax and license down, i made a similar deal and wanted to know how close i was to yours and thanks
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    No down payment - $500 included $49 doc fee and about 100 difference between my trade and the payoff on my old loan.
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    I REALLY loved my old van ('05 T&C) and these new vans are very different, so I just wasn't sure I'd like the ride and how they handle. The breaks on this thing are really sensitive... plus, I didn't want leather seats and wasn't sure I'd like them. But, we finally took it for a drive today and it is so nice - much smoother ride and quieter than the old van. DH did most of the driving and he raved about how much more he likes this one because it's so much roomier and the seats are more comfortable.

    We don't have a Saturn dealership around here, so I cannot compare. But, I'd say I'm happy with my purchase.
  • longinotlonginot Member Posts: 11
    Lots of incentives that my dealer says that I am not qualified for. Humph! The money factor thing has me going. Was this through Chrysler Financial? Details please.

    Joe
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    Yes, the financing was through Chrysler Financial. I don't have the paperwork as they were going to mail it to me after everything got processed today. I agree with you on the money factor thing... I am happy with the deal I got, but I still don't know if it's the BEST deal available. I called the Chrysler incentive phone number and all they could tell me about were the $2,500 cash back, the $1,000 loyalty bonus (which they said I didn't qualify for) and the $750 coupon - they said that was all that was available right now for incentives for my ZIP code.

    When I asked about money factor/APR, they didn't have any information. Then I called Chrysler Financial and they wouldn't give me any info either. They said it was all through the dealer...

    I'd be really curious to hear from some of those folks on this forum who are "in the know" in regard to the Tier 1 or Tier A (whatever it's called) money factor that Chrysler is using right now. Did I get the best deal at .00068?
  • rmbalisarmbalisa Member Posts: 129
    jensen...is that a 27 month lease? if so, the money factor is 0.00067.
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    Hmmm... I hope not... I was told it was a 36 month lease. But, I guess I should go double check...
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    I double checked and it is a 36 month lease.
  • borgtheborgthe Member Posts: 3
    MSRP $36,045
    entertainment package rebate $1,500
    Adjusted MSRP $34,520
    Rebate $2,500
    Price after rebate $32,020

    I paid $30,550

    This was a Signature Series loaded with everything imagineable except the sunroof.

    Thanks for your advice.
  • borgtheborgthe Member Posts: 3
    Jensen,

    Which features did you get? Do you have nav, blue tooth, dual dvd, backup camera, etc? Could you please list your features? Sounds look a great deal.
  • longinotlonginot Member Posts: 11
    Could someone explain this DVD rebate to me? No dealer here in Northern Cal has mentioned it or even knows that it exists. How does it work and how can I "get me one".

    Joe
  • borgtheborgthe Member Posts: 3
    I'm not sure either. I went on cars.com to get invoice price for the T&C I bought. It sais the 25L package (signature package) was $3,520. My sticker said $5,045. At the botom of the sticker it says Dual DVD Entertainment Grp Discount $1,525. So it looks like at cars.com, they already subtracted the discount on their invoice, so I'm thinking it is in there. You really need to look at the sticker. HTH.
  • beirneadbeirnead Member Posts: 5
    Where are you located? In Wisconsin, I'm being told the current money factor for a Signature Series for 27 months is .00151. How do I get .00067.

    Thanks!
  • rmbalisarmbalisa Member Posts: 129
    the signature series automatically includes the discount for the dvd package. its just a special vehicle that includes it basically for free.
  • andy2812andy2812 Member Posts: 76
    I was at a dealer on Saturday and he showed me the Chrysler lease rates for the T&C when I also questioned the mf that I was quoted. The .00067 mf is only for the Limited model. You're getting the correct rate of .00151 for the 27 month signature series. I'll post all the details once I pick up the car tomorrow.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    We worked up a deal today for a 2008 GC SXT with a friend's code, mucho thx to rmbalisa, who provided it.

    The dealer was very happy to accomodate the code and didn't show even the slightest sign of grief when I told them that I had it. In addition to the $2500 cash back incentive, I also have another $750 off coupon that my wife got in the mail a couple weeks ago in some Dodge/Chrysler booklet.

    They located the color we want at another dealer, so it will be here in a day or two ... SXT, Sunburst Orange, with the black side rails and crossbar (or roofrack as I call it).

    I am a little leary of the price that they worked up though...

    Here's what they put on the worksheet:

    MSRP - 28,310
    Friends code savings - 1,994
    Cash back - 2,500
    Coupon - 750
    _________________________
    TOTAL 23,066

    I know that the MSRP they calculated is correct, but I think the friends code [preferred pricing (PP)] savings should be more.

    I used the invoice prices here on Edmunds to calculate the PP (1% below invoice, or .99 X invoice) as follows:

    MSRP INVOICE PP
    SXT 27,140 24,855 24,606
    Orange Paint 150 132 131
    Roof Rack 250 220 218
    Delivery 770 770 770
    _________________________________________
    TOTAL 28,310 25,977 25,725

    28,310 - 25,725 = $2,585 .... Not the $1,994 saving they say is correct.

    I will have to wait until the vehicle we are getting is at the lot so I can look at the invoice that comes with it to look at the PP price on it, but does anyone out there in the know (rmbalisa, tedebear, or whoever) know what the PP price should be with the options I gave?

    Also I noticed that they didn't put the $75 PP processing fee on the invoice, but they put thier $100 dealer handling fee on it. Wifey didn't want me to b$%^tch & moan to them over $25. Should I keep quiet about it ... can they still add thier $100 fee on top of the $75 fee??
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    Here's the price breakdown on that model, with the roof rack and Sunburst Orange, in the region where it was built. It might be slightly different in CA or another area.

    MSRP: $28,310
    Preferred Price (Friends) Discount: $2,579
    Cash Allowance: $2,500
    Coupon: $750

    Net Price: $22,481

    The Preferred Price discount shown above is just an estimate from a utility I use on an employee website and the actual discount price will be shown on the invoice of the vehicle. In my experience the estimate is usually within $100 or so of the actual price.

    Since you have a Friends discount code the dealer must show you the invoice if you request to see it. Look for the "PP" Preferred Pricing code on the sheet. That is the same as the Friends price before your $2,500 rebate and $750 coupon are further subtracted from it.

    The only thing the dealer can add to the Friends price is up to $75 for a doc fee. There are no dealer prep, advertising, etc., fees involved. In some states the TTL is also paid at the dealer, so those would be legitimate charges. Any dealer add-ons, such as stripes or aftermarket tinted glass, would be an additional charge.

    Since they are transferring the vehicle from another dealer they might be charging you $100 for that service.

    Here's something I found about delivery fees in the program rules. The $770 delivery fee that is part of the original MSRP is already included in the Friends price. It doesn't really mention the word "transfer", so interpret it however you want to.

    The participant may not be charged for any preparation fees, delivery and handling charges, service or overhead fees, or any other such delivery fees under this Program. Documentation fees are allowable under the respective governing State in which the vehicle is titled. Documentation fees may not exceed those normally charged on any other sales transaction.

    The complete list of program rules: Dealer Rules and Provisions
  • mpsieben13mpsieben13 Member Posts: 5
    Just picked up a 2008 Grand Caravan SXT Inferno Red with no extra options. (It did come with one year free sat radio)

    Sticker $27955
    -2500 Rebate
    -750 Coupon from chrysler
    -2495 Dealer Discount
    Total = $22210
    Total discounts were $5745. You should be able to get the same ($28310-$5745=$22565) Doesn't the friends discount come right from Chrysler and if so you should be able to do better than my $5745 in discounts? You would still be doing okay at 23066 considering that according to edmunds that most buyers are only seeing about 4250 in total discounts on the GC's. Its your $500 or theirs though and it may as well go in your pocket.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    Thanks tedebear for your help and for all the info.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    I saw the invoice today after the dealer got the vehicle. PP on the invoice says $26,240. That still ~ $500 more than what both you and I calculated above. Tha sure doesn't look like 1% below dealer invoice to me. However, I did notice that in the program rules that you linked (thanks for the link, it was very helpful) that it says "a mximum of 1% below dealer invoice" ... So I guess the key word is "maximum".

    The thing that I am still puzzled about is that now the dealer has the $75 admin fee in the paperwork PLUS the $100 dealer processing fee. Can they do that? My wife doesn't want me to make waves, but on page 2 of the program rules under the "PREFERRED PRICE" heading, last paragraph it says "The participant may not be charged for any preparation fees, delivery and handling charges, service or overhead fees, or any other such delivery fees under this program." ... Now I interpret that as they can't charge me the $100 because I consider the 'processing' fee as a handling fee or a preparation fee, but hey, I could be wrong .... So just wondering what you think. I know that you had mentioned in your last reply to me that they may be charging me the $100 to transfer the car to the dealer, but the rules say they can't charge any delivery fees.
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    Sorry it took so long to respond. The features I have are the leather seats, MyGig with dual DVD screens and backup camera, the basic signature series with no extras, except the red paint. I don't have nav or the hands free. I don't have the swivel seats or the upgraded sound system, etc.
  • jensen3jensen3 Member Posts: 42
    tedebear,

    I'm wondering if you'd be willing to look up that Friends price on the model I just purchased... I'm curious if I would have been able to get a better deal... I have the signature series T&C, inferno red and block heater. No additional options.

    The reason I ask is because my dealership is one of those "best price in the window" dealerships and I've purchased my last three new vehicles from this same salesman. Well, one week later, they have a big "sale" - which they've never done before - and the same model as mine is on "sale" for about $300 less. I'm seriously thinking about going back to him and making a fuss. Any advice?
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    I know that you had mentioned in your last reply to me that they may be charging me the $100 to transfer the car to the dealer, but the rules say they can't charge any delivery fees.

    Yes, I said that the rules do not mention the word transfer and that you could interpret that part of it however you wish.

    I'm not sure if the wording in the rules is there so the dealer cannot add a delivery fee in addition to the one that is already included on the window sticker that we all have to pay, whether it's across the country or across town from the plant where it was made.

    If you want to call and ask if a transfer fee can be added to the Friends price you can call the Employee Advantage hotline at (800) 756-2886 during normal business hours.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    I have the signature series T&C, inferno red and block heater. No additional options.

    Here's what I came up with:

    MSRP: $32,760
    Friends Discount: $3,092
    Cash Allowance: $2,500

    Net Price: $27,168
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    First off, let me apologize to everyone for putting my questions about my GC purchase in the T&C forum... I accidentally clicked on the wrong item in the "My Watched Items" link :surprise:

    Took delivery last night of our 2008 GC SXT, Sunburst Orange, only option was the roofrack.

    Here's the breakdown:

    MSRP=27140 + 150 (Sunburst Orange) + 250 (roofrack) + 770 (delivery) = 28310

    PP (Family & Friends price) = $26240
    PP Admin Fee = $75
    Dealer Processing Fee= $100
    MD Sales Tax= $1584.90
    MD MVA Fees= $274
    Dodge/Chrysler Rebate= -$2500
    Dodge/Chrysler Coupon= -$750
    ___________________________________
    TOTAL= $25023.90

    I didn't feel like b@^%^tching about the $100 dealer processing fee for such a small amount, even though when I called the hotline for the Chrysler Advantage Family & Friends program, they told me that dealers can't charge a processing fee.

    Since I got it at the PP price, I got a copy of the dealer invoice. Now I know why both you and I were calculating the PP price wrong. I got approximately the same price that you did - $25,725.

    But my invoice has some other items on it:
    $25 for Chrysler Owner Loyalty Mail
    $14 for 5 additional gallons of gas
    $210 for Washington Metro - PPA/EB-PF
    $280 for Washington Metro DAA

    Edmunds doesn't have these things on their listings when they show invoice price. What in the world are all of these additions??? I live in Baltimore, MD, but the vehicle came from a dealer that is about 2/3 of the way between Baltimore & DC. Do they charge regional prices too? And where the H is my 5 extra gallons of gas that I didn't get? What, were they supposed to give it to me in a gas can or something?
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    And where the H is my 5 extra gallons of gas that I didn't get? What, were they supposed to give it to me in a gas can or something?

    They didn't give you a big red 5 gallon plastic container full of fuel? Go back and demand yours!

    Seriously, the extra 5 gallons is a factory fill item. When the vehicle is going down the assembly line the production operator presses a certain button for regular fill or another one that dispenses an extra 5 gallons of gas, depending on the code that pops up on the screen when the vehicle gets to his/her station. There's even another one for diesel fuel.

    If your tank wasn't full it might be due to driving it around because of the transfer from another dealer. If you go back and mention it I'm sure the dealer would top it off..

    I don't know about all those other codes. You might try a Google search and see what it finds.
  • eriley99eriley99 Member Posts: 5
    Do you mind sharing which dealership you used? We're in the same area and will likely be getting a T&C using DHs supplier discount.

    Thanks in advance!
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    No, our tank was full. But I'm confused because the price includes a full tank of gas (just like every car dealer does) as indicated on the invoice, but then there was the charge for the 5 gallons of gas. So it must really be "full tank of gas for the price of 5 gallons"!!! :surprise:

    Thx, I'll try the googling the other codes.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    Unfortunately , the dealer we used is simply a Dodge dealer and not a Dodge/Chrysler dealer, so that wouldn't help you out with a T&C.

    But if you still want to know, then let me know and I'll send you a PM.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    But if you still want to know, then let me know and I'll send you a PM.

    Send it to me too. I thought Chrysler was making all their dealerships convert to the multiple brand platforms (Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep) and, except for Tator's somewhere on the east coast, I didn't think there were any single brand dealerships left.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    I googled these mysterious codes and here's what I found...

    The $25 YDH Chrysler Owner Loyalty mail fee, I have no idea what it is.

    The $14 YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas fee - This is BS ... They claim that you get a free tank of gas, but in actuality, they charge you for the first 5 gallons. I found other Dodge/Chrysler vehicles where they charge you for the first 7 gallons.

    The $210 B05 Washington Metro - PPA/EB-PF fee & $280 T05 Washington Metro DAA fee are both some kind of regional advertising fees that Chrysler charges the dealer.

    So just be aware that when Edmunds, KBB, Consumer Reports, or any other online service gives the dealer invoice of a vehicle, that doesn't include these other BS fees.
  • marisakay123marisakay123 Member Posts: 4
    I have been really researching for a few weeks.....my husband and I really want to lease a new 2008 TC..it is a touring w this package that we really want:

    ENTERTAINMENT GROUP #2 -inc: MyGig multimedia system ParkView rear back-up camera single disc DVD player 2nd & 3rd row 8" video screen video remote control wireless headphones

    the msrp says: 31180

    the sale price they are giving us is: 29617

    and the with rebates: the sale price is 26911

    this does not seem like a very good deal???? we say they need to come down off the sticker price of 29617, but they wont..they say it is as low as they can go??? I do not believe this when I see peopel getting thousenads off of MSRP....he is a young kid that does not know much and whenever I ask questions he has to go ask the "other guy" getting sick of this!!!!!

    also the quote is then 409.70/mo w 1000 down.

    this si for 12000miles/36 months

    the money factor is .00148 (but this is a quote for top tier) I have ready top tier should be .00077???

    also the residual they stated is 15,960

    this includes 700 acquisition fee and he "thinks" no security deposit..lol

    tell me what all you think of this...ps this is the dealership that everyone raves about but I am thinking no????

    do I go onto the next chrysler lot?? or keep haggling w them?
  • rmbalisarmbalisa Member Posts: 129
    marisakay, that price of $26911 is not bad. The friends price, which is 1% below invoice is $28291 then minus out the $2500 rebate, which results in a price of $25791...about an $1100 markup. But since your price includes the $700 acq fee, its only a $400 markup. But since you aren't using a friends discount, it isnt so bad.

    as for the money factor, i have it at 0.00154 for 36 month leases with a residual of 50% (for 12k/yr). The only vehicle i see that has the 0.00077 money factor is the Aspen.

    have you ever thought about getting the signature series T&C? it has the entertainment group (free of charge) and a lot of better goodies (MYGIG, heated seats, remote start, window shades, sliding console, TPMS, Backup Camera, & EVIC) for not that much more than what you would be paying for a touring with entertainment....just a thought.
  • marisakay123marisakay123 Member Posts: 4
    THANKJS SO MUCH LOOKING INTO THE SINGATURE SERIES NOW..MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE....
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    I don't know anything about the leasing numbers. However, here is a quote if you had a Friends discount.

    MSRP: $31,180
    Friends Discount: $2,889
    Cash Allowance: $2,500

    Net Price: $25,791

    Ask him if he will lease it to you at the Friends price without having to go through the paperwork of processing a Friends control number.

    The Friends price can be found on the invoice. Look for the "PP" (Preferred Pricing) code on the sheet. That price includes everything except TTL and up to $75 for a doc fee. Your $2,500 rebate or any additional price incentives are further subtracted from that price.

    The discount price shown above is just an estimate. The actual Friends price will be shown on the invoice sheet. Discount prices vary by region.

    I bet I'm not real popular with the sales people around here. :D
  • joels1017joels1017 Member Posts: 11
    We will be purchasing tomorrow a 2008 TC Signature Series with just the Sirius Backseat TV option.

    MSRP - 32,995
    Friends Discount - 2,588
    Customer Rebate - 3,000
    Additional Haggle Rebate - 617
    After all discounts - $26,790

    Total Savings - $6,205

    Is this a good deal or is there still more room to wiggle?
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    Additional Haggle Rebate - 617

    :confuse: That's a new one.

    You're saving nearly 19% off the MSRP. It looks like a decent deal to me. I'm sure other prospective buyers will want to know more about the haggle rebate thing. :D
  • joels1017joels1017 Member Posts: 11
    The haggle rebate was playing one dealer off another. I found two of the same mini's with the same all the same features and color. I kept going back and forth between both of them to give me the lowest deal they could(most rebate's off). Once I felt comfortable with the price the one gave me, I went with them.

    I feel good about the deal I got, but because you gave me a F&F code this made the vehicle very affordable for us, especially with the new one on the way in 7 weeks. This will be girl #2, we needed a lot of room and options ;) .

    So I really want to say thank you tedebear for the code, you are a life saver! :)
  • boftakeboftake Member Posts: 1
    Any thought from anyone on how much would be a good deal for GC 2008 SXT.
    We really only need the power 1st and 2sd row windows, locks, and sliding doors.
    We want the dark cloth and not the leather. Looking for an OTD price.

    Thanks in advance.

    boftake
  • mpsieben13mpsieben13 Member Posts: 5
    Try the 750 rebate from chrysler that they sent out in the magazine. I used a coupon on a GC. You just go to a website and then fill out some info and they send you an email coupon from chrysler. The website was posted here or in the GC forum.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    Any thought from anyone on how much would be a good deal for GC 2008 SXT

    The equipment you mentioned is already included in the SXT package. Here are a few prices to get you started.

    MSRP (2008 GC SXT): $27,910
    Friends Discount: $2,527
    Rebate: $2,500

    Net Price: $22,883

    If you can find a $750 coupon that was mentioned in the previous message take an additional $750 off the net price.
  • stevewaasstevewaas Member Posts: 1
    Hi...I am looking for a way to get that $750.00 coupon. I do not get the mag, but saw something about a link to cafemoms.com. I actually called the 800 number on the chrysler website and asked about it. She said they (chrysler) occasionally sponsor a rebate program on cafemoms, but this one ended on June 23. I told her I saw info here on edmunds dated June 26 about a current email coupon. I may call back and ask again. We really, really need this rebate/coupon. Can anyone help or advise?
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Member Posts: 32
    I really don't know where to get the coupon if you didn't get the booklet in the mail.

    I remember somebody here said that Chrysler mailed it out to random people who fit some kind of profile I guess. So I guess that's how my wife got one in the mail. And I remember it was specifically for the GC or a T&C only ... no other Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles. But I do remember that it was good thru July 7th.
  • tiger3ptiger3p Member Posts: 30
    Hello,

    I'm new to this board. My wife and I are considering buying either the Odyssey or the T&C Touring edition. Right now, we are leaning towards the T&C because of the gadgets that comes with the car. How does one get the Friends discounts? Would really help us save money. Are there any other rebates/discounts we can use besides the current $2.5K Chrysler promotion?

    Thank you in advance!
  • tiger3ptiger3p Member Posts: 30
    A dealership is quoting me a price of $27,959 with the following options for the Chrysler T&C:

    25L
    Deep Crimson Red

    The $27,959 already includes the $2.5K cash allowance. Seems to expensive for me.
  • hp7434hp7434 Member Posts: 7
    Lets see if i have done this right

    MSRP 32,995
    invoice 30,715 ??
    less 600 ?? it was written under the invoice price
    less disc 3,000

    my price 27,115
    fees txs. 29,337 out the door.

    white w/ pref package 25L and Flex seating

    anyones input is appreciated
  • rmbalisarmbalisa Member Posts: 129
    [quote] A dealership is quoting me a price of $27,959 with the following options for the Chrysler T&C:

    25L
    Deep Crimson Red

    The $27,959 already includes the $2.5K cash allowance. Seems to expensive for me. [/quote]

    tiger, the price is ok. the friends price is $27,138. i've seen plenty of people get near the friends price without the code.
  • tiger3ptiger3p Member Posts: 30
    Hi rmbalisa,

    The only problem with that price is that this is not a swivel and go which the wife really wants.

    I was hoping we can get the swivel and go with the 25L package for under $27K minus the $2.5K discount.
  • rmbalisarmbalisa Member Posts: 129
    so its a signature series which includes the L package, and you want to add the crimson paint and swivel and go...the friends price I see on this optioned model has an MSRP of 33220, preferred discount of 3151 and the rebate of 2500, bringing the total to $27569. only the employee discount can bring you to the closest of 27050, but obviously you cannot get that price. the only thing i can see is maybe using the 750 coupon people are talking about...havent seen one myself though
  • tiger3ptiger3p Member Posts: 30
    how do I qualify for the preferred discount? I live in Maryland.
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