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I would prefer to deal with them, due to the location.
please post if you find another option locally. I would like to purchase this year...more interested in the '05 at this point.
I just purchased a new 2004 GX470 9700G yesterday. I thought I should provide my feedback to this forum as well.
It is all the options, including KDSS, Nav/ML,
RSES, rear spoiler, roof rack, tow hitch and ball mount, preferred accessary, etc.
It is relatively difficult to find a GX470 with KDSS in Southern Calif. with the color that I like. Most GX470s are without KDSS on the market.
It was not easy to negotiate prices in my area, since KDSS-equipped GX is hard to get.
Most dealers ask for $2,500 over invoice, than lower their prices significantly later.
After dealing with 5 dealerships for about one week, I finally was able to get a fair price for the fully optioned model with the exact color and KDSS. The MSRP is $53,688, the invoice price is $46,654. I was happy to buy the car at $600 over invoice, from a very nice and friendly sales manager at a beautiful and superb dealership, Lexus of Cerritos. I love that place and the sales manger there.
The other dealers were willing to offer $800 to $1,000 over the invocie.
So far, I find the GX470 very powerful, smooth, and quiet. The 320 ft-lb of torque and the delivery of massive low-end torque hep significantly in GX470. It is not just the horse power, but the combination. KDSS helps in cornering and reduces the body roll. I am an expert by profession in structural dynamics and vibration control, and I think KDSS helps the suspension system.
In my area, there are very limited supply of GX with KDSS.
All the dealers in my area told me that they do not have price quotes for 2005 GX470, and cannot give me concrete information or delivery dates for 05 GX 470.
Therfore, I decided to buy a 2004 GX470 with KDSS at this time.
I might have to wait until jan. 2005 to get a new 2005 GX if I wait....
I love my GX so far. It is beautiful, elegant, imposing, powerful, smooth and quiet.
No steering wheel vibration, no rear axle thump, just ncie and smooth so far....
For a 4WD SUV with off-road capability, 3rd row, and over 6,000 lb, fit-and-finish, build quality, reliability, I think GX470 is perhaps the best choice. MDX is great too, of course; but not its look. All European brands are relatively unreliable, and with consedrably lower grade of fit and finish or build quality.
Some people had some issues re Weight?
Any one here, who was successful using it for 60000lb weight basis tax deduction and got their money back?
I am in market for 2005. Per Lexus out on 12th December, there will be a sports version with more horse power too? No official brochure yet?
Any increase in weight? need to be seen.
By the way what is KDSS and why not standard?
thnx
I bought my car at Hendricks Lexus and was treated like a King. After the purchase, Johnson told me next time to let them workout the deal. Well, the same stuff again. No flexibility on pricing.. Either you take the deal or go else where. So I am still looking... Maybe I should just buy the GX from southern CA and have it shipped. I would still save money.
When I ask Johnson Lexus how much above invoice, their response was we don't sell our cars in that manner. We give some dollars off MSRP, but we don't give x dollars above invoice pricing.
Thanks
My idea of putting a heavy duty roof rack or other such ad-on to the Acura MDX (5,850+/- lbs GVW) would NOT qualify and might get me a suite next to Martha Stewart if I tried.
You may want to consult your own accountant or tax advisor on the write-off terms and conditions. There are potentially future recapture requirements and other factors that should be understood before you elect take the Section 179 write off.
1. Is 9" screen too big for GX
2. How is Sony picture?
Thanks!
my current car go off lease in end Dec. seems too tight time frame!
i heard one with increased horsepower will be available in spring?
I'll too, like Sony 9 inch DVD entertainment?
any experience?
rear view obstruction?
Curb weight is not the issue, it's GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating). All of the GX's starting with the '04 9700C models last October had a GVWR of 6150 (although I think the 3rd row seats are required to get that weight). The tax deduction may get changed this year, but only changed back to it's old form I think. You'll still be able to depreciate all of it, just not all in the first year like you could last year.
Re: Prices
I bought my GX last year from Johnson Lexus in Raleigh. They gave me $3000 off MSRP on an '04 and that was the first month they were out. So I feel like I got a fair deal. It was much better than Flow in Kernersville or Hendrick in Charlotte were willing to offer. Don't even bother with Flow, they wanted full MSRP and didn't care if they got my business or not. So unless you're going out of state, you may want to try Johnson again.
If you don't mind the way it drives, the Land Cruiser is a very good deal, IMO. It's just bigger than we need and I prefer a tighter handling vehicle. Frankly, compared to the XC90 and a few others, even the GX470 lackes some of the tightness in steering and handling that I would prefer. But if I really needed a bigger vehicle, I'd take the Land Cruiser at $53k over just about anything else in it's class.
The model is 2004/9700G, 08/04 build. Beside all listed standard equipments I also got all possible options such as 3rd row seats, Rear A/C, Rear Seat Entertainment System (RSES), which includes DVD/CD, Navigation/Mark Levinson Audio (14 speakers 240 Watt), 6CD changer, Backup camera, KDSS (Kinetic Dynamic suspension system), Rear spoiler, wheel lock etc. The MSRP is $53,193.00
The price I offered was $46500.00 (because I did not want to buy it at that day and still wanted to look at Infiniti QX56 again on the other side of the free way). I also told my sales person “GX470 is a bit small although I like it’s off road capability and the build quality. I have looked at QX56, TLC, MDX, XC90, Navigator and test drove all in the past 3 month and now I can limit my selections to MDX, QX56, and GX470. If you want keep me, I’ll buy a fully loaded GX with KDSS for $46500.00”. The guy was just kind of unhappy and ask me pay $50000 for the truck because that is the only one with KDSS and it will be gone soon and hard to find in Houston. Then I told him “I will check with Clear Lake LEXUS, which is about 8 miles from my home and would like to make the same offer to Clear Lake dealer and if refused I’ll come to you again. Why should I buy it from you because you guys are 40 miles away from where I live and beside I still want to check out QX56 just across the highway”? Any way after many friendly exchanges of words, I told him “I got to go”, and to my surprise he went to see the manager and came back with his number $48,000. After a couple of minutes of discussions I said “sorry, I got to go I have been here for a bout two hours and really got to go”. Finally the guy said “You got my car you can take it for 46500”. Hi folks, was $46500 a good deal in Houston area?. I know some people paid much higher price for it but when 05 rolls out, buyers should have an upper hand for 04 models.
Also, for those who are thinking of waiting until late Nov/early Dec when the '05 models come out hoping to get the best deal on the very last '04 trucks, you may want to look at getting one a little earlier as the salesman said there will be a rush of end of year buyers due to the section 179 tax break (even though it was recently decreased for 1st year write off). He said the deals now are about as good as it may get - but of course this is from a salesman looking to sell now, not in Nov or Dec.
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1) Lots of power, quiet, smooth trans, nice interior, handle well, but it is a truck. LS is much smoother.
2) Rear swinging door – my wife (5’1”) actually like it. I am indifferent.
3) 3rd row seats – inconvenient, take up so much cargo space, need improvements, good for little kids, but dangerous w/o rear airbag.
4) ML stereo – clear and good base but I am not too impressed. Over rated?
5) Nav – nice to have but not needed.
I didn’t want factory 7” DVD b/c I think it is too small and am planning to install a 10” Rosen overhead DVD.
Do you think it would be too big for GX?
Again, thank you all. I’ve learned so much from you.
PS, the window sticker price is over $53K
My out-of-the door price is almost $47K with 6.0% PA tax.
But when the dealer's AV tech guy came to show us the system, he stated he was no longer putting in anything larger than 7". Anything larger on an overhead system will totally obscure your view through the rearview mirror. He stated that the dealer did not want to be held liable and would no longer install a 9" screen.
The larger screen is heavier and could come loose. My business partner has a 13" in their Sequoia which has had to be reinstalled several times because the screen just dropped while driving. Also, large screens will bounce quite a bit even during regular driving. Which may be setting you up for nauseous kids.
Bigger is not always better
I am planning to have the specialized shop that my local Lexus Dealer uses. He has installed many GX and LX with 9". He told me that b/c of the sun roof, he'd have to drop the head liner and add a metal support even though the Rosen 10" weights only 6.4lbs.
The rear view block doesn't bother me because I always turn my head b/f changing lane and the side mirrors are sooo big. Also, the 7" would also block about 60% of the rear view.
Roni.
did u ended up buying lexus over the weekend and i am intrested to know how was ur experience with either of the two dealership that synchan mentioned .please let me know the price and dealership as iam planning to buy one.
Roni
I purchased my truck on 10/21 for about $500 over invoice and did a short write up here just after (post #394). At that time the dealer said that was about as low as you can get... but now with the very last '04's coming in, I think you can do better if you're willing to put in the time - especially once the '05's start arriving on the lots.
I live in the NJ and am going to go buy tomorrow. It seems you paid a very good price, I am looking to get the RES as well and hoping to pay no more than 46K.
a) could you tell me which dealer in NJ did you go to ?
b) Do you/other gxowners think 46K is a fair price for everything (minus kdss) system ? too low/too high ?
Thanks in advance !!
navig and dvd also.
Roni
I think $46K w/ RES is competitive in the NE. However, I believe they have room for $500-1,000 lower. I don't think I can share the info here. So email me "longson@lvc.edu".
is this in southern california/or LA.
Roni
Apparently the Lexus competition here is tight because I had three dealerships contacting me via email nearly every day. Each one offered a discount before I even stepped in the dealership, but only about $3000.
These people were extremely nice. I went and test drove the car, walked back into the dealership and sat down with the salesperson, and she asked what I wanted. I said $500 over invoice. They came back with $1000 over invoice (and a different invoice total than I had). I said give it to me for $45,500 and I'll sign. They said ok. But then on the sales form it listed a $385 VIN etching fee. I told them to take that off, and they did. So, $45,115 ($6,328 off MSRP). Total negotation time was about 15 minutes.
Considering I've seen used GX470s for this price, I think it was a great deal and they didn't try and push for all the extra stuff like road hazard, dent coverage, extended warranties, etc. They mentioned, but didn't push.
Overall, the best experience I've had buying a vehicle.
About $47K (6% tax + license fee )
RES = Rear entertainment system.
I just installed a 10" overhead Rosen DVD. Highly recommended if you have child(ren). Good luck.