Chevy Silverado - IV

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  • tuckyboy1tuckyboy1 Member Posts: 36
    rlangford,

    I was washing and waxing last week when I noticed rust on the as yet unused factory hitch. I've had the truck less than 2 months. I've also seen some rust underneath and I do live in a place where the salt the roads. A little troubling if you ask me. I want to keep my 00 until at least 08 or 09, so I'm hoping that it holds up.
  • leathal02leathal02 Member Posts: 114
    the paint rubs off and it has the opportunity to rust, mine is doing the same thing also
  • fortune2fortune2 Member Posts: 3
    I just bought a 2000 Ext. Cab Z71 last Friday. After inspecting underneath I noticed that the rear axle is covered with rust. Nothing else on the vehicle is rusted. I'm taking it to the dealer tomorrow to have them look at it. Has anyone else had this problem, or have any suggestions on what should be done?
  • doudisdoudis Member Posts: 45
    Thanks Tim,

    I guess I'll just have to be patient. 00 Sierra 1500 SLT, 5.3L, 3.73 limited slip 2wd, leather, fire red sportside. First truck can't wait. Would love 4wd but can't justify the cost for mostly city driving. Rust?!? sure hope not.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    You guys are getting a little paranoid...

    That's what axles do!

    - Tim
  • murizarmurizar Member Posts: 33
    Rust can only go so deep before it becomes a protective barrier on thick pieces of metal like the axles. It is when it forms on thin body panels that it becomes a problem. You want to see some rust, try removing the spare tire and see how much of the protective coating has been removed by the tire. I had to hit the local auto-parts place and get some underbody coating spray. When I had to work on my dented (it still hurts) rear bumper I found rust on the back of the chrome part of the bumper. I also though the chrome part of the rear bumper was very flimsy when I removed all the reinforcement they put on it and seemed very thin. Are the bumpers from the other truck companies this soft? I also found rust behind the front bumper and that was a month after I received the truck. I put some of that rust eater paint they sell to stop the rust on the back of the bumpers. I rather do that than take it to the dealer that changed my oil the last time. Did I tell you guys that 200 miles after my first oil change I found what seemed to be moisture on the engine covers? After careful investigation I found that the certified team at Knapp Chevrolet filled my engine with oil all the way past the last letter on the dipstick. What is that 2 or more quarts overfilled?
  • murizarmurizar Member Posts: 33
    I also found the dents on the tailgate everyone has been talking about. I found them when I installed the aftermarket lock for the tailgate. The dealers are carring this lock now but you can get it cheaper from JC Whitney.
  • tuckyboy1tuckyboy1 Member Posts: 36
    I saw discussion in another forum focused on pitting of aluminum wheels in the winter. For anyone who has a 99 and has been through a winter with road salt, have you seen this? I don't remember reading anything in the manual about having to clean these suckers when it's 10 degrees outside. Anyone?
  • hillrwhillrw Member Posts: 11
    I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the electronic "plug" is for that is located just above the emergency brake petal on my new 00 LS extended cab 2WD truck? I have not seen anything about it in the manuals.
  • nasvikingnasviking Member Posts: 43
    What is the diference between P and LT tires, so I know before I order? I will be hauling a truck camper and a boat. Just doing ALOT of research before I order a 28,000 plus truck. The more I read at this site the more I'm spending, but will be worth it in long run. The 2500 sure turns out to be the best buy penny for penny.
  • kantonkanton Member Posts: 142
    I was wondering what a ping sounded like? I am very unfamiliar with engines.
    The reason I ask is because I have this clicking sound coming from the drivers side valve train? It is only there under load. I kind of sounds like a valve is not getting lubed. It does it at just about all rpm's. I can only hear it if the radio is off. It has been there since day one. My old chevy used to do the same thing. Is this a chevy thing or should I be worried and take it in? Thanks for any info.
    Kyle
  • shamptonshampton Member Posts: 53
    4 weeks after taking delivery of a 2000 Silverado 1/2 Ton Ext. Cab 4x4 - I have noticed that each and every time the vehicle is started - the A/C kicks on.

    Not only does the indicator light in the climate control panel illuminate, but the system is engaged. This occurs regardless of what setting the system was on when the vehicle was turned off (unless the system was completely turned off).

    For example, if the "outside fresh air" blower is selected, and the fan set at level 2 - with the system directing that fresh air toward the passenger's chests, the A/C will be turned on when the vehicle is started.

    After a trip to the dealer today for the first oil change, I was shocked to hear that "the software settings may be incorrect, or outdated". This vehicle was produced Wk. 3 Sept'99!

    If anyone else has noticed or experienced this, please advise. Also, if you have been made aware of any service updates pertaining to this issue, please share this information.

    Other than this issue, I have enjoyed my first month of ownership!
  • 2sly4u2sly4u Member Posts: 28
    This is a problem myself and several others on Edmunds have had. There is a computer update that helps some. Finding a good gas rectified mine the rest of the way.
  • joelisjoelis Member Posts: 315
    I've had my 99 since mid December 98. I live in northern Wisconsin where salt is a fact of life in winter. No signs at all of any wheel damage. They still look like new.
  • bassamaticbassamatic Member Posts: 79
    You guys that are worried about a little rust need to slide underneath your truck with a flashlight and take note of all the undercarriage parts that are uncoated metal or iron. Believe me, over a space of time, many of these parts will have a little surface rust (unless they get covered with grease or oil). It's no big deal!! If it really bothers you, take the advice of a previous post and spray everything with an undercoating spray. That stuff never lasts though.
  • planejaneplanejane Member Posts: 167
    I have a '99 2500 Ext. Cab, bla bla bla..

    I have had it since Sept 1 (2 months), and have acquired approx. 6500 miles on it, whew! I have had to add oil to it twice, so it seems once month, OK, I know its been with me only 2 months, but has anyone had to add oil yet? Is it really using quart a month or it is me? Maybe its like this with new engines?

    Shampton,
    Let me know if you find software update info, I have had no trouble, but would like to know if I need to take it in.

    Fun truck, isn't it?

    -Cindy
  • rwagonerrwagoner Member Posts: 338
    3000 miles for one quart is very good. "They" say anything over 1000 per quart is good; but a new engine will likely use slightly more than normal as it breaks in.

    Richard
  • gwmooregwmoore Member Posts: 230
    P = Passenger rated
    LT = Light truck (more plys, way heavier duty)

    If you carry heavy loads or do much driving over rocks (especially sharp ones), don't even consider the P-rated. I have seen so many sets of brand new P-rated tires shredded out here in Eastern Oregon on the long gravel roads, I wouldn't even consider going on a lot of them without a GOOD set of LT tires. Two years ago, my buddy picked up his brand new Silverado 1500 and went directly elk hunting. Got two flats on the first day. Went directly to Les Schwabs Tires, and got some LTs.

    There are a lot of dirt roads here that you go about 65 mph that can litterally shred all four of your tires over the course of 20 miles if you have any kind of load. I think it's absurd to even offer P-rated tires on 1/2-tons or bigger (probably fine for a Tindra, careful with the Ginsu knives around them though). I guess if your driving will only be on the street, soft dirt, or snow, the P-tires are fine.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    I've said this before, and the nay-sayers respond "naw..."

    Break it in easy. Warm it up slowly. Don't wait 7500 miles to change oil. Change it every 3000. Use synthetic oil. It is an easy "do it yourself" on a Silverado/Sierra.

    My oil level doesn't move off the full mark between changes. '99 5.3L, 15,900 miles, Mobil-1 5W/30.
  • vince4vince4 Member Posts: 1,268
    hillrw, that plug is likely a diagnostic port. I suspect that is where the dealer plugs in to get info and also where a Hypertech type of programmer would get access to the computer. Once GM releases the service manual we can read about it.

    nasviking, if you are looking at a 2500 they only come with LT anyway. If you are looking at a 1500, don't do it. A slide-in camper is too much for a 1/2 ton truck (except a very light popup) and the boat even makes it worse.

    shampton, mine was built the same week and I don't have that problem. It's a different model but that shouldn't matter. I think the dealer just gave you the easy answer. I'm sure we'll be hearing "it's the software" quite a lot no matter what we complain of. Maybe it has to do with defrost. If you turn it off in the recirculate mode, when the problem occurs does it kick it over the outside air setting?

    planejane, you are funny. Don't say a quart per month, rather a quart per 3000 miles. That sounds reasonable. I can't say the same about driving 3k/mo though!
  • shamptonshampton Member Posts: 53
    Vince - The A/C problem (automatically engaging each and every time the vehicle is started) occurs regardless of what settings were in place when the vehicle is shut down.

    Whether you use outside fresh air, inside recirculated air, chest, feet, chest/feet, defrost/feet, or defrost settings >>>> turn off the vehicle, then next time you get in and turn it on, the A/C goes on.

    I'll let everyone know what additional information I learn after my trip to the service department.
  • tuckyboy1tuckyboy1 Member Posts: 36
    Joelis - thanks for the info.

    Kanton - I still have slight ping under some conditions and I'm running 93 octane. It is getting much better though (1300 miles). Have to agree with quadrunner on the warm up. Let it warm up before driving. It runs much better when warm.
  • oilwell1415oilwell1415 Member Posts: 5
    FYI: After I posted the question about the rear wheelwells rusting through several days ago I ran into the guy who owns the truck. When I ask him about it he said he had been doing research for a chemical company on some of their sites and probably drove through something corrosive. That seems like a reasonable explanation.
  • billk5billk5 Member Posts: 14
    I have no way to flip my bucket seats forward on my 2k LT is this someting they did away with on my 95 the pass side slid forward and the drivers side fliped up, on my new truck there is no way to move the back except with the power which is limited, I see the levers in the sales lit. Am I missing something or is the new design ?
  • planejaneplanejane Member Posts: 167
    Quad,
    Why do you use 5w30? Is that all year 'round? You know mine is a 3/4 (not that that makes any difference...I don't know) but I have changed the oil at about 2500-3000K miles. I have been using Quaker State 10w30. What is the difference? I bet there is a whole topic on this but can you offer me some info?
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    Make sure you are always measuring it the same way. For me, that means inside my garage, in the morning, cold engine after a night of rest.

    I use 5W/30 because it flows faster to all the engine parts during starting, where most engine wear occurs.

    5W is the viscosity of the base stock, the /30 is the equivalent viscosity at high temperatures due to the additives. All oils have a base stock+additives. A 30W single grade mineral oil has high temperature viscosity, but flows poorly when cold.

    What you want in an oil is one that flows quickly, gets to all the parts, or the thinnest oil with enough shear strength to prevent metal to metal contact. The long chain molecular bonds of a synthetic polymer means the oil can be thinner because the bonds are stronger, and prevent metal to metal contact, or last longer while doing it.

    Lastly, the owners manual strongly suggests 5W/30. The high temperature protection of 5W/30 is said to be as good as 10W/30 now. Same viscosity index, same, vaporization point, etc.

    I used to think a thicker coating of oil was more slippery, after watching those old STP commercials where the strong man couldn't hold the screwdriver by its end after being dipped into the thick goo. But the fact is, that "thickness" just creates drag and builds heat if it's more than you need to prevent metal to metal contact.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    I doubt it is really using that much, but if it is, find out WHERE, or have your oil analyzed for metal particles, contamination.

    Pull the oil filler cap and run the engine. Smoke or air pressure from the crankcase indicates a leak.

    Some smoke out the tailpipe? I'm sure not, but it has to go somewhere. Puddle in your driveway, oil in your coolant...would be obvious. One guy knew because there was oil spray from the exhaust on his craftsman tool box next to his tailpipe.
  • scoon8scoon8 Member Posts: 24
    Full Power LT seats do not have seat back release lever. Only the "power seat" options on LS models have the release lever. Likewise, LT seats have push button lumbar support vs. manual on "powered" LS seats.
  • billk5billk5 Member Posts: 14
    Thanks, but I wonder why they show the lever in the lit. Its a real pain when you need something from the back seat to go around the truck to the 3rd door..
  • powerisfunpowerisfun Member Posts: 358
    I'm not the one who wrote the original question, but no seat back latch would be a bummer. I use mine all the time on my '98 with 3rd door (SLE trim with power driver seat). I understand BILK5's pain.
    -powerisfun
  • cmrinkercmrinker Member Posts: 2
    What is a 5yr/100K rust warranty. I noticed on my 99 Sierra rust on the rear bumper mounts. Brought this to the attention of GM's Area Vehicle Manager (AVM) for NC & SC. He stated all GM trucks rear bumper mounts rust. He also stated the water leaks in my vehicle did not effect its market value. Bad thing is sales person did not tell me this before I bought my truck.

    Needless to say 15 plus trips to the dealer for warranty work and I still do not believe problem(s) are fixed. Water through the door (carpet removed twice to be dried). Have had water leaks from both quarter glasses as well as rear window.

    BBB auto line is of no value to me. TN State Atty General will be on the lemon law. Disagreement on remedy. Amounts to $1000's in GMs favor. Not this ole boy. Moving back to TN.
  • planejaneplanejane Member Posts: 167
    Thanks for the info, I always thought thicker was better, too. I have been checking the oil about every other week at gas fill up.

    So, if I continued to use 10w30 (because sometimes my husband, whose motto is: "we fear change", may not believe what you say about 5w30). Since he and I ever owned a vehicle, it was common that 5w30 was winter weight oil. I also saw in another post somebody mentioned not to use Mobil 1 synthetic until after so many miles (what I don't remember) so, I haven't thought about using it yet.

    I don't suspect anything is wrong yet, but that its a new engine. If I were to continue using 10w30 because hubbie wants to, will there be an problem down the line?

    -Cin
  • tuckyboy1tuckyboy1 Member Posts: 36
    I know it's not nice to jump into someone else's conversation but the owner's manual recommends 5w30 and says 10w30 is o.k. 5w30 is better for the cold, so in Cincinnati, it's my choice. However, if I was back in Texas where I grew up, I'd still use 10w30. I'd go with what you climate dictates.

    my 2 cents
  • rwagonerrwagoner Member Posts: 338
    The '99 LT does indeed have a quick seatback release. I am surprised that they would remove it for '00. Perhaps in anticipation of the 4th door...

    Richard
  • gnawrockignawrocki Member Posts: 5
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    http://www.mattracks.com/

    :^)

    -- Rock
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    WHat the hell are those? DAMN THEY ARE UGLY. Hey i guess the saying whatever floats ur boat works here i wouldnt think about making my silverado a tank. Join the army and drive one. I am shaking my head as we speak i can see why some might need it but just to have? WASTE OF $$$$$. I think id rather buy a tank. SOrry im done now

    Ryan
  • m1685m1685 Member Posts: 71
    Since I have switched from the 245's to the 265 BFG all-terrain KO, I have noticed more tire noise, but it is mainly noticable when I turn. Also, I dont think they make as much noise as the old BFG all-terrain. I run about 52 psi all around. When I ran 40 psi, it did make a little more noise all the time, not just turning. I also liked how it raised the truck a little bit, plus they look mean. As for the speedometer, I have noticed one thing. When I went down the interstate, I roughly gaged it by using the milemarkers. It was almost 0.1 mile off, but not exactly because i was guesstimating. So for every mile you go, it says you went 0.9. I have not been off-road in them yet, I only have 1800 miles and I still want to keep it as new as possible. I went with the BFG KO because they are supposed to last longer than there old all-terrain, which I had and got about 40,000 miles with on my old truck.
    For the people that do not know what I am talking about, my truck is a Silverado 2500 4x4 ext. cab 5-speed LS. I thought the stock 245's were too wimpy. I traded the 245's in for the 265's. The place gave me around 280 for the 245's with 1100 miles. and I paid around 360 for the 265's.
    I read in a post earlier about the water leak through the windows. Im taking mine in Monday for the same problem. My passenger side floorboard gets soaking wet when it rains. They said they could fix it by replacing the seal inside the door.
    Also, about how hard it is to get a 3/4 ton. I waited 2 months for my order, then found out they could not even get an allocation for it. They found mine in North Carolina, I do not know how, almost 5 hours away from me in Tennessee. They tried to trade for it, but they said they would be losing money, which they would have. The dealership in NC wanted 2 old body style crewcabs just for my truck. To make a long story short, i called up the dealership in NC, and after 2 weeks of fighting over the price, they finally called me back and gave in. After 9 hours roundtrip on a Saturday, it was in my driveway.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    Thanks for the inspiration. I got the telescope back out. Pinch me, but Saturn still has its rings and Jupiter still has its moons. Brightest in 15 yrs. You can seem them easily with the naked eye, even over bright city lights.

    I haven't seen a telescope at a dept store in years, but that Jack guy on Star Gazer says they are so bright now, even with the cheapest telescope (about like mine)...I think you might even be able with a pair of binoculars.
  • kentroskentros Member Posts: 5
    Does anyone know if the Electronic Trac control
    on the 2000 Tahoe's and Suburbans will make it
    over to the Silverado's at some point in the future? I've heard it works with the Locking
    Raer Diff.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    Cindy, I agree with Tuckyboy, 10W/30 for a hot climate.

    Here is a link with some pretty good oil info. I leave it to you, but without re-reading, I think one of the table shows that for Mobil-1 5W/30, the high temperature protection is about equal to the 10W/30. Also note that you don't get the API starburst (energy saving) symbol for anything thicker than 10W/30 anymore.

    http://www.f-body.org/oldfaq/html/tech/sect2.html#chooseoil

    Good luck!
  • uspsauspsa Member Posts: 9
    I have been thinking about a fiberglass Tonneau cover for my new Silverado. I have looked at the A.R.E. covers and they are pricey. I was quoted $745. A.R.E.'s web page doesn't list any prices and require you to contact a dealer for a price. Does anyone have one on their truck? Do you like it, and how much did you pay for it.
  • uspsauspsa Member Posts: 9
    I have been thinking about a fiberglass Tonneau cover for my new Silverado. I have looked at the A.R.E. covers and they are pricey. I was quoted $745. A.R.E.'s web page doesn't list any prices and require you to contact a dealer for a price. Does anyone have one on their truck? Do you like it, and how much did you pay for it.
  • 26andrew126andrew1 Member Posts: 93
    GM says use 5-30w cause you could float a rod bearing. I don't belive it but do you want to risk any hasle with voiding warrenty.

    Also service manuels are on the web now. Need to find someone who is friendly to give up pass word and sign on name. If you get it DON"T POST it. Not went for public yet.
  • soilworkersoilworker Member Posts: 21
    uspsa

    I ordered an A.R.E. tonneau cover for my 2000 Silverado 1500 LT, extended cab, short bed on October 8th. The dealer (Brown's Truck Accessories of Forsyth, IL) installed it on October 29th. I paid $629 (included installation), plus $12 for 4 clamps, plus $16 for a new Wade tailgate protector to replace the whale-tail protector, plus tax.

    I love this cover. The quality is excellent, and it feels very solid. It also has the exact same center line as the hood. The dealer took the extra time to make sure all the rubber bumpers were properly adjusted, and the result was a perfect fit.

    I would like to caution you about one thing. My truck is meadow green metallic. The paint code, 68U, is the same for 1999 and 2000 models. However, the 2000 is slightly darker than the 1999. My dealer sent A.R.E. my gas door cover, and they used their computers to come up with an exact paint match for the cover.

    Hope this information helps.
    Gary
  • jaijayjaijay Member Posts: 162
    As my truck approaches its oil change, I plan on using Mobile 1 0-30W. I have used this stuff in the past with a mini van that we had. It sure made the cold starts seem like the engine was just out of a heated garage. When I did get a chance to change the 0-30W oil in that van, it still looked like honey.
  • nuwonuwo Member Posts: 63
    Quad, thanks for the tip on the planets. Checked them out with the kids last night. They were pretty cool!
  • uspsauspsa Member Posts: 9
    SoilWorker - thanks for the info. My truck is white and I was told it's the easiest color to match. However, there was a problem awhile ago matching the white color because white trucks made in Canada had a slight yellow tint compared to the U.S. made which is bright white. At any rate, the problem has been corrected.

    The prices you listed are much lower than here in Houston. I was told the aftermarket Whale-Fin replacement was $25. A.R.E.'s web page listed only one dealer in the Houston area. That being the case the dealer can set whatever price the market will bear. For a city of 4 million people I would expect a market large enough for other dealers. Anyone in the Houston area know of any others besides Johnson GT?
  • planejaneplanejane Member Posts: 167
    I don't think there's a rule on breaking in on someone else's conversation, you are totally welcome!!! Thanks for your 2 cents, I really want to look into this. My hubbie says, no way will he spend $5/qt on synthetic. Is it really that expensive? Geez.

    Quad, which way am I looking for the planets? I want to check it out tonight!
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    Changed the oil at 978 with Mobil 10-30...and just now at 4200 with Mobil 1 5-30.

    I'll use 5-30 from now on....even in summer.

    Standard GM filter.

    For a few bucks...who cares?....cheap insurance I figure...

    - Tim
  • tuckyboy1tuckyboy1 Member Posts: 36
    Synthetic is really $5/qt. I am using Mobil-1 5w30 because of the winters here in Cincinnati. It may be anal, but I look at it as cheap insurance. Anywhere down south I would use Quaker State 10w-30. I've run QS 10w-30 through a number of vehicles without any problems.
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