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Acura TL Maintenance and Repair



  • armandarmand Posts: 178
    That makes sense.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    But I think the wipers are designed to do a wipe every time you let off the brakes, no matter what intermittent setting they are at.
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    Speaking of SSW, I actually wonder about the logic of this feature. My ES has this rain sensing wiper whose wiping intensity is proportional to volume of rain falls, which makes good sense to me. Now on SSW, is it supposed to wipe faster on higher vehicle speed, and vice versa?

    I can accept the logic of it if the rain falls against the direction of car, but not quite if it falls vertical to the car (little wind) or at the same direction of car (wind blows to where you're heading). Am I interpreting this feature incorrectly?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    From what I have observed, the SSW is actually pretty basic in its operation. I'm not sure if the speed changes as the car speeds up. All it does that I can see, is that at the shortest-interval setting, the wipers will sweep continuously as long as the car is moving. When the car is stopped, it goes into intermittent mode. And at any setting, it will do an immediate sweep when the car starts moving.
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    Mmm I thought shortest-interval setting is the same as the LO setting so it'd wipe constantly, even when the car is stopped.

    Anyway every time it rains I am stuck in traffic so it's hard to tell how wiping actually relates to speed.
  • aaarghaaargh Posts: 230
    If I recall correctly, at the shortest interval setting, when the car is moving over 12 MPH, it runs at regular speed (no interval). Below 12, it has an interval. It's useful.
  • hi guys
    i'd decided, i thought, to buy an 05 TL given that it seemed to offer the best combo of value,drivability, and, i thought, reliability in the under 35K hi-end entry level cars. lexus seems to be for old men, didn't care for the infiniti G35, and wasn't willing to put up with reliability issues of audi, bmw, and mercedes.
    am i wrong about this acura? this tranny stuff has me running scared. i'm gonna get stuck with that soft ES330.
    what do you guys think?
  • aaarghaaargh Posts: 230
    I think if you read a problems chat forum, you are going to read about those having problems.

    I have no problems with my TL and I believe I am in the (vast?) majority. I'm not saying there aren't those with problems, but my impression is they are few and far between. You just hear about them more here.

    My opinion, go for it for the reasons you gave.
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    I did notice last night that when stopped, the wiping at shortest interval setting in INT did have interval vs. wiping like LO setting when moving. This feature may be already in many Honda cars already.

    Is that all SSW does on TL? I guess it's useful more because you don't get that much rain from other moving cars when stopped, vs. from the sky....
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    There're unhappy campers ready to sue Lexus or Acura after owning a new ES or TL, or maybe any car co. for that matter. I have both and so far found no reason to call a lawyer for either.

    As to soft ride vs. firm ride between ES and TL, that's very true. That said, even though my butt is not that old yet it does find the ES seat more comfy. Of course if looking manly is important, then TL will do a much better job than ES.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Have you checked out the '05 G35 already? I haven't done so myself but I hear it received a face-lift for both exterior and interior. The exterior now looks more like the new M35/45. Don't know how much better the interior looks. It also received a 20hp boost. The AWD version does look fairly tempting in terms of combination of price/features/performance.

    I haven't had any tranny or engine problems with my TL yet. And overall I still think it's a top contender in its class. But there are days when I do wish for a little more ride compliance, a little less squeaks and creaks, and a little smoother power delivery.
  • Do not buy the Lexus! We own a 2002 ES300 after owning a 2001 Acura CL Type S whose transmission died @ 23,000 miles. We loved the CL and Acura fixed the CL and gave us a 7yr. 100K warranty on the tranny. That was the only problem with the car but my wife insisted on getting the Lexus after we test drove one.

    So far it has been reliable mechanically but has had many little problems in the 2 1/2 years we have owned it. Here is a list:
    1)the drivers seat back fell off the 1st week.
    2)the paint on the strip on the bottom of the drivers door flaked off in 2 large spots.
    3)the shroud that covers the trunk mounted Nav system keeps falling off.
    4)the dash has a constant rattle.
    5)both the rear doors have a rattle when going over bumps.
    6)the brake rotors warped and were replaced last month under warranty (a TSB had been issued).

    The ES is extremely quiet and a soft ride but I can say the only thing I LOVE about the car is the Mark Levinson sound system (must be heard to appreciate). The car is a bore to drive. I like driving my '04 Toyota Tundra Dbl. Cab more than the Lexus. And it has absolutely not had a single quality issue. Our 3rd car is an '03 Honda S2000. Now that's a fun car to drive!

    I have not driven the new TL but if you enjoy a spirited drive once in a while then I am sure it's the better choice. If you just want to go from point A to point B in a serene, unattached atmosphere with an occasional rattle as a companion then the Lexus is for you.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,422
    I've owned six Lexus' and now own the TL. Believe me the Acura is no more fun to drive than a Lexus "for a spirited drive once in a while" or not. That's unless you enjoy great electronics coupled with numerous rattles and buzzes and a punishing lousy ride (with the TL).
  • I'm not trying to sell a car or anything, but my TL'04 (auto) has no problem whatsoever (21k miles).

    Here are some things that you can do :
    1. Go to NHTSA website and search for complaint and defect investigation. Some poster claimed that they have filed a defect investigation, tranny problems etc. You will find zilch/nada defect investigation and dont forget to compare tranny problems with other brand

    2. Acura TL won first place at the 25 hours thunderhill endurance race. figure that out yourself.

    3. Read the Consumer report magazine. or other magazines that shows tranny failure or defect.

    4. TL has the best sales figures among G35, 330i, 325i, es330 for some time. Dont you think that defects might affect its sales?

    5. There is no evidence of tranny failures. Yes there has been some dissapointments against the prev. TL (2000-early 2003) but not on the new TL'04. And if you look carefully on the prev. TL data, the tranny failed @ a very low miles car (some at as little as 1200 miles). Mine has 21k miles with no problem and the new TL has been on the street for 17 months(while many of the prev. model failed @ less than 2 months). Thats a fact or at least I have the fact(my TL'04).

    6. Beware that some posters are not owners of the new TL. Ask for any evidence/fact(New TL's fact not the if you believe them (other than his/her word).

    7. There are gear ratios differences between 2003 TL's and 2004 TL's auto transmission
    3rd gear 1.022 <> 1.021
    4th gear 0.653 <> 0.666
    5th gear 0.471 <> 0.480
    Same tranny? IDK!

    8. My computer has a slight vibration, could it be the sign of a tranny problem :P

    TL maynot be the perfect car but its worth to find out the truth. Good luck! :)
  • Please keep me posted on your progress with the class-action suit. I, too, have experienced the vibration problem and will be having my '04 TL at the dealership for the third time this upcoming week (8,500 miles). I simply want a replacement for defective car.

    On an unrelated note, has anyone experienced moisture on the back seats? I noticed that two of my rear seat belts has a white salt-like residue on them. I immediately took it to the dealer where they told me to clean the belts, see if the problem returned and if so, schedule an appointment. I had the car professionally detailed and five days later, the residue has returned. I have noticed minimal moisture on in the crack of the seat. Clearly, there is a leak of some sort, but I cannot locate it. I did have a '03 Accord EX-V6 that had a leak from the back glass not being properly sealed when manufactured. Anyone with a similar issue?

  • dojadoja Posts: 19
    I just watched "Motorweek" on PBS. This week they reviewed the 04 TL after driving it for 30,000 miles. They first reviewed this same car when it was a new car. They loved it then. I was interested to see their comments of the same car after 30K.

    The only negatives were the rear-view mirror which they didn't like because it couldn't be adjusted at enough angles and the leather driver's seat, which they said cracked around the the holes.(Why do they have those perforations. It seemed like this would inevitably be a problem)

    HOWEVER, there was no mention of vibrations or rattles. Also no problems with the transmission!!!

    The show is Motorweek #2425 and it started airing on PBS stations last night. Look for it in your area. You can get a tape of the show if you are in the market to buy and want a professional review of this car after 30K. Of course, there are always lemons but if they didn't mention this vibration issue then I'm going to conclude that it's not a design flaw.

    The show also airs on the "Speed channel" which I don't receive. I think it's available on certain cable providers
  • armandarmand Posts: 178
    With large numbers of people reporting no vibration problem (I don't have one) it isn't a design fault. IMO it may be a manufacturing problem for a small number of units or maybe even just some very, very finicky drivers.
  • dojadoja Posts: 19
    "The only negatives were the rear-view mirror which they didn't like because it couldn't be adjusted at enough angles and the leather driver's seat, which they said cracked around the the holes."

    It's too late to edit my original post but the reviewers were complaining about the SIDE view mirrors not the rear view mirror.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,422
    "Beware that some posters are not owners of the new TL."

    Well, that doesn't apply to me and not necessarily to others who do not wax poetic about the TL.

    I agree though that one has to own the car to see what their own individual opinion(s) is(are). Don't neccessarily take my word for it, but don't say you weren't warned about TL's short comings.
  • qwallsqwalls Posts: 406
    I guess it would depend on which Lexus. I went from a '99 LS400 to my '05 TL, and I haven't looked back. The TL is a lot more fun. The only thing I really miss is the low end torque of that 4.0L V8.
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