Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!

Toyota TACOMA vs Ford RANGER - IV

1…78101213…16

Comments

  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    The biggest joke is that Vince never posted his truck. Someone else posted it for him. As far as I know it came from a web site or a magazine.

    I do not recall you posting your pic here?
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    Here is a link to Ranger rolling over dated July 1999. Is the Tacoma mentioned? No . . .

    http://www.insure.com/auto/rollover799.html
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    Ranger owners venting outrage. If 1997 is old then maybe the truck is past its life cycle.


    http://www.mindspring.com/~ics_mak/fvmranger.html
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    For Tacoma viewers that wanted to see a junk yard. Well this site links directly to a Ford junkyard.

    http://www.accessone.com/~jonathin/deadford.htm
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    not directed at you. I do own a 2000 Ranger 4x2 xlt.

    i can go measure my intake right now if you want.

    spoog just ALWAYS avoids questions that someone who OWNED THE TOP OF THE LINE TACOMA should know. if he doesnt own one and just wants one that is fine but id rather not have him pretend.

    His reason for not having a pic of his truck was "I dont take pictures of machines" come on. a person as fanatacal about his truck as he is would have hundreds of them ..

    just my observations.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    ok hind here is my VERY out of date homepage. i will work on getting the pic up soon .

    http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/hickory/741/index.htm
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/hickory/741/truck.jpg

    ok it took me less than an hour, spoog has had like 6 months
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    what a marooon. The Honda Passport is a wise choice....stay away from Isuzu. They are the same vehicle. Great expert spoog.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    try this instead..
    http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/hickory/741/truck.jpg?popup=1
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    From a Toyota forum. Seems the head gaskets are STILL A PROBLEM IN TOYOTA's even the 1999 model.

    http://forums.vmag.com/suv4runner1099/messages/1819.html
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    That was a quick update of your page.

    Let me go look for the diskette with my KKM setup pictures, I can SHOW you a Ford Ranger intake at 36-38 inches above ground.

    I think the kid who lunched the engine in the rain was plowing water. What a dumba$$ move. . .

    There is NO way in a normal rain storm, or snow storm for that matter that even with the stock air intake that you would suck enough water to lunch an engine.

    Scott, notice how spoog does not answer questions.

    Here you go, I will try to upload the air intake tonight or tomorrow, gotta find the diskette first:
    http://members.aol.com/Cpousnr/index1.html
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    http://members.aol.com/Cpousnr/intake1.jpg

    It is not there yet but will be by tomorrow.

    Check out the "fancy" and "shiny" oil filler cap when you see it.

    I gotta get off, my son called from college and needed to get on his aol account! Dang kids, can't send em away far enough sometimes. . .
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/hickory/741/truck.html
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    A trans expert claims toyota's go 150,000 miles,
    while the ranger goes 80k before needing trans replacement. INCREDIBLE!


    You know...Toyota has earned their reliability ratings time and time again. It's things like this that really show through.


    Vince and Cspounser....enjoy having your trannies replaced at 80 k! What garbage......
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    That link and post was incredibly weak. No real surprise though. I don't see these guys bashing their rides, putting up pages simply because Ford let them down so hard.
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    I will get around to it.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    the legendary toyota truck reliability..
    91-93 toyota... http://carpoint.msn.com/Vip/UsedSingleYear/Toyota/Pickup/1993.asp#Reliability

    94-95 toyota..
    http://carpoint.msn.com/Vip/UsedSingleYear/Toyota/Pickup/1995.asp#Reliability
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Your so called transmission expert praised Honda Passports and said stay away from Isuzu. ISUZU MAKES THE PASSPORT. As usual, believe what you want and ignore what you want.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    those engines sure did have some costly problems... shall i quote
    "Common problems on this vehicle are failures of the Cylinder Head Gaskets and the Oxygen Sensor Wire Harness, and occasional problems are failures of the Exhaust Valves and the Engine Main Relay.
    Failures of the Cylinder Head Gaskets and the Exhaust Valves apply to the V6 engines only. Failure of the Cylinder Head Gaskets or the Exhaust Valves will prevent the vehicle from starting. The cost to repair the Cylinder Head Gaskets is estimated * at $240.00 for parts and $520.00 for labor. The cost to repair the Oxygen Sensor Wire Harness is estimated *at $15.00 for parts and $45.00 for labor. The cost to repair the
    Exhaust Valves is estimated * at $300.00 for parts and $1,000.00 for labor. The cost to repair the
    Engine Main Relay is estimated * at $13.00 for parts and $26.00 for labor.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    must be that poor build quality...

    sorry just getting even :)

    a beer for all my freinds here ;)
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    To answer your question/statement:

    "Ohhhhhh what a Feeling, Toyota!'

    Ok got the pictures up
    http://members.aol.com/Cpousnr/intake1.jpg
    http://members.aol.com/Cpousnr/intake2.jpg
    http://members.aol.com/Cpousnr/intake3.jpg

    That is my KKM TruRev filter system. The stock airbox would go to where the filter now is, down into a snorkel and into the airbox a good 6-8 inches LOWER than mine is now.
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    must be that poor build quality...

    sorry just getting even :)

    a beer for all my freinds here ;)
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    a Boost-A-Pump and do you know what it is?
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    When I refresh my screen this dang Dell 600 reposts the data and sends it
  • scottssssscottssss Member Posts: 147
    how much of a performance boost did you get from KKM?
    cost??
    and how hard to install??
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Just click the number of your own post and choose scribble.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    in intake2.jpg?

    Trying to find chrome valve covers and intake stuff.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    I have about 10 more sites of Toyota problems to post but am sorting them out first.

    The BEST is yet to come so buckle up
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    blush blush

    Here i sit with maybe the fastest, newest puter on the block, I launch payloads in orbit and I didnt know that.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Well, do not buy it for the performance boost. Not a lot but the acceleration is crisper, much more responsive etc.
    Maybe 5 more hp.
    Sounds a lot better when you punch it!

    It is a snap to install. Unhook the old box from the MAF, pull off the top of the old box, you want to leave the bottom for water guard, plug the old intake behind the headlight and bolt it on without any gasket. Torque value is not to exceed 104 inch/lb.

    It cost 89 bucks + shipping. I got it, the opl cap and on recharge kit, used when cleaning it for maybe 150 bucks.
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Thats your engine compartment? What a mess. Looks like it was just slapped together! ugh................
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Looks like you havent been here for too long, have you? Oh well, everyone learns sooner or later:


    The Ford Ranger has had .........3000 Technical Service Bulletins from 89-99!!!!! Holy cow!!!!



    3000!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/



    Add that to a tranny that lasts only 80k and you have a prescription for J.U.N.K.
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Yeah, it's nice to see you playing "catch-up" again. That 100 horsepower in the high elevations can't be too much fun.

    I will be heading over Wolf Creek pass in June. Of course, my TRD charged Taco won't even FLINCH a bit. Ahhhhhhhh....
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Why bother throwing any money into your ranger?

    Whats the point? Wouldn't that be like trying to put makeup on the elephant man? You need to have a good foundation. Remember, the Transmission expert says you really shouldn't tow anything over 1000 lbs with your tranny.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Do you know what a boost-a-pump is?

    Why when hindsite posts articles that reference Windstars, Escorts, Dodge's etc they are proclaimed by you to be great posts? Yet when I post something that is DIRECTLY releated to your vehicle, like the engine, and there are STILL problems EVEN IN THE 1999 MODEL 3.4 V6, you call them weak posts?

    Do you realize how bad you look doing that?

    I am ESTABLISHING that Toyota still has quality and or engineering problems with the 3.4 engine. They run fine untill they bust a gasket, then they fry. Some of the data I will cite show the engines failing in as short as, going from memory here but I THINK 18,000 miles.

    Is that a QUALITY product, one where the engine fails in 18K and the company KNEW of the defect?
  • wsnoblewsnoble Member Posts: 241
    I addressed you link and you ignored my reply. until you can aswer my question about the link, i will not consider the information provided in the post as applicable.

    I know how the locker works and have already shown that in my past post. Next issue...

    You have a new name for Toyota owners i see. Please don't cry about why you get labeled in the future please, when it is so obvious as to why...

    -wsn
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    That is current and the Ranger is susceptible to rollovers. Maybe they should lower the clearance from 7.4" to 4" to prevent rollovers.

    Nice scanned photos Cpousnr.
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    Nice pic of the truck. Well in least I know Cpousnr and yourself are genuine when it comes to pics.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Member Posts: 241
    I addressed you link and you ignored my reply. until you can aswer my question about the link, i will not consider the information provided in the post as applicable.

    I know how the locker works and have already shown that in my past post. Next issue...

    You have a new name for Toyota owners i see. Please don't cry about why you get labeled in the future please, when it is so obvious as to why...

    -wsn
  • mmcbride1mmcbride1 Member Posts: 861
    Yes, you're right. I only read the first one. The '96 V6 is the same 3.4L V6 as today's.

    Scott-
    Why are you worried about the air intake level? You have a 4x2 truck! I don't think it will be going offroad anytime soon.
  • y2ktrdy2ktrd Member Posts: 81
    well i'm glad to see that your sucking all the hot air from the engine compartment now.....
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    For those rangers owners who own/plan to purchase one, make sure to reset your computer after installing. To do this, disconnect the (-) battery terminal for 30mins.

    The engine howl at WOT is definately worth the $90, not to mention the 1mpg (with a light foot) and 5-7hp & 5ft/lbs of torque increases.

    As for air temperature, the air temp inside the hood of a moving vehicle is nominally (a few degrees) higher than outside of the vehicle. Remember that the air has to get in there somehow. Unless you've got some sort of Ram-Air Cold-Induction setup, the intake air is bound to get heated by the time it reaches the TB and onward.
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    This link contains photos & high mileage Toyota trucks with one that has at least 615,000 miles
    plus miles on the odometer now.

    http://www.toyota-slo.com/Toyota/ToyotaLine/tacoma/photos.html
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    671,000 miles
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    A link from Toyota of San Louis Obispo?
    Would you think that link may be a bit BIASED?
    Was that 671,000 truck in in environment where there is no moisture (his bed is not rotted out) or is he just on his 6th or 7th bed. . .

    A weak link you say? Well we are establishing that the weak link on the 3.4 engine is the head gasket. . .

    Oh gonna adjust your boost-a-pump before you tackle Wolf Creek pass?

    Do you know what a boost-a-pump is?

    Are you measuring your air intake or can we establish that it is lower than mine? Oh I think I have already also established your vehicle has been recalled more than mine. That opinion comes with your silence when I asked you the question in a past post.

    For the record, I have done a bit of research on the Pulse Vacuum Lock hubs. Remember a while back someone stated that the vacuum lines were failing and causing older Ranger 4X4's to fail?
    Who ever posted the comment on the lines was in error. Well I have been unable to find that problem anywhere AND I do not THINK the pre-98 Ranger 4X4 systems HAD vacuum lines. They were ELECTRICLY actuated. There were some problems there that were traced to non-use of the 4X system for extended periods of time. Clean the contacts and you were on your way. PLUS if a motor DID fail, you could remove it on the trail and turn the motor with a set of pliers to disengage or engage 4 wheel drive.

    Try that in a Tacoma.

    So for the record, the pulse vacuum hubs were introduced in 1998 and are proving very reliable. Actually I have been told there are not really any hubs as we know it on the front wheels of the 98-00 Ranger. It is all activated internal to the front differential and xfer case. An interesting system with reduced areas to fail. A common problem of auto-hubs is grease hardening and causing them to strip. Not a problem on the 98-00 Ranger so I understand.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    that much difference in the heating of the air.

    The sound is great. You have one Cthompson? I was impressed with the quality and resonable price.

    Scottssss:
    The stock grille in Littleton is about 160 bucks. What is it where your are?
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Here was the answer I got:

    Your truck has no hubs. Thus they cannot be changed, nor do they need to be. I have heard no problems with the pulse vacuum system as of yet. This is an internal disconnect, instead of a hub.

    As far as water crossings go, I would leave them to small crossings until you get rid of the low snorkle (this is the tube that inlets air). You can just remove it, this is what I did a long time ago (Have 93). Most people that wheel seriously do that. Other than that, you will be fine going in deeper water. You just need to remember that to do this more safely, it is a good idea to raise the breathers on the diffs, and the tranny. All of my breathers run as high as possible (to the top of the firewall for front stuff), and have a fuel filter in them, and a bend. This makes it very hard for them to allow water into these components. If you do not do this, when you make a deeper water crossing, you will have to change fluids when you get home.
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Keep playing catch-up. Thats what happens when you can't get what you want out the door.

    Wolf creek pass.....ahhhhhhhhh.
  • trenttrent Member Posts: 86
    http://www.the-summit-group.com/rec/4x4/toyota.html
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    $700 for a clutch, 3700 for heads, 6000 for a motor, head gaskets galore. Sure glad I'm not getting one of them "reliable" Toyotas whose dealers try to milk their customers. Those poor Tacoma owners are looking at some expensive repairs in a few years.

    Spoog, my transmission expert said Ford transmissions are more reliable than Toyotas. But then again your expert dosesn't know the difference between a Honda Passport and an Isuzu.
This discussion has been closed.

Helpful Tools

Most popular vehicles