I had an Allroad for 4 years it was wonderful no problems. I just got delivery of a Q7 less than 60 days ago.For the last 9 days it has been 120 miles away at the dealership in Boise. The sunroof would not close and the battery went dead.I got a call this morning at10am saying it was ready and where would shall we deliver it to. I told them Hailey Airport. I asked if the problem had been fixed they said no but the car is Ready.They could not find the problem even with a German tec flying in. But the roof started to work ok so it is now Ready. 4 hours later I receive another call from Audi saying they had bad news, they have no provisions in their Roadside assistance to deliver it back to me. I am alone 120 miles away on vacation, 1200 miles from home, how do they expect me to collect it. Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this car and get a new one?? Please help!!
Keep in mind that this JD Powers survey only covered reliability for 2003 models...
I have the Consumer Report full reliability report in front of me. They rate reliability along 14 dimensions. It clearly shows that older Audi had somewhat lackluster reliability (especially compared to Japanese cars).
If you look at 2004, the picture is different:
A4 4-cyl. AWD: Top rated for all 14 dimensions A4 V6: Top rated in 12 dimensions with two dimensions getting the second best score.
CR didn't have enough data to rate A6s, A8s and TTs for 2004. All these cars had very decent ratings for 2003. Before that time, it wasn't as good.
I bought a 2001 A4 Avant Quattro. This is my first German car after owning only Japanese cars. I have had more or less the same type of problems I did with my Toyotas and Hondas. Parts and service are not cheap (nor was it for my Japanese cars).
However, for the first 4 years, service and maintenance was free. The dealership was awesome. Never had a better experience before. I'm thinking of buying the Q7 from exactly the same dealer ship (after some negos). Btw, even today, I still use the same dealer to service my car (even though I have to pay for it now).
And my A4 is so much fun to drive and comfortable (unlike some of the American cars I have to rent on business trip).
Really? How do you know? That is my dealership. My new Q7 has been ordered through this dealership, but I would be very surprised if they have that car and didn't tell me!!!
Dude, I think that was the exact same truck sitting in the showroom last tuesday. Don't know about the suspension but everything else fits. Not sure if it was already sold but...... Since you live near here have you tried to shop at another audi dealer to see if you could shave a few bucks off the price?? Just curious.
It was nothing to do with the dealership it was road side assistance. They pick up but do not deliver. I am 150 miles away from the dealership why should I pay. Audi came through and paid road side assistance and delivered it back to me. It was a brand new car 2000 miles on the clock, why would I go out of pocket for an Audi problem? My advice never pay upfront!!~
I drove the 3.6 model and was quite impressed with it. It doesn't fell like it has 70 less HP than the 4.2. It's a little slower off the line, but the passing power and highway cruising speed differences between the V6 and V8 aren't that different.
Audi did the good job with the 3.6 motor. I just wish the mileage was a little better than 16/20.
I understand that the 3.6 will get you nominally better mileage, but to get the car fully loaded it seems to be more cost effective to get the 4.2 premium versus the 3.6 and having to add on all the options. I ran the numbers at home and I think the difference is probably only 3-4K and I would there might be a difference in resale as well. Any thoughts. Perhaps the Range Rover sport is the better buy for now???
Better buy insofar as price below MSRP, but I have been reading on the RRS site that they are going at Sticker without much in the way of discounts. Anyway, I still have another year on my current hooptie, I just hope I can get the dealer to take it in trade for close to 20K or so!
Does anyone have the adaptive air option on their Q7? I have ordered it on my replacement Q7 as the car tends to wallow a bit around corners on the windy twisty roads they call Parkways here in New York. I'm thinking that the lower and stiffer suspension will correct this. Anyone care to comment? I also note that all Q7's delivered in the UK market all come with adaptive air as a standard option. I wonder why this is the case?
Just know that when you have it in the Dynamic setting (which is what i think you're talking about) the ride will be rougher, especially if you ordered the 20" wheels. The standard suspension is the same as the comfort setting on the air suspension.
answer my own question. The base 3.6 doesn't have a third row seat, and the MMI screen is much smaller. That is what I got from my local dealer. I love Audi's but it's frustrating that you can't build a 3.6 on the website even though the vehicle is currently sold by dealers.
Hmmm. The base 3.6 with the Comfort Package comes in at msrp $43K. It has the basic ingredients we wanted: i.e. hid headlights, heated leather seats, awd and it lacks things we didn't want, i.e. satellite radio, nav and moonroof. That puts it in the ballpark for us.
1. Does the 3.6 use premium gasoline? 2. Will the upcoming 2008 diesel be the V10 in the Toureg or will it be a six?
I doubt you'll see a V-10 diesel in the Q7 to start with. It would put in the top end of the price range, and it would push the Q7 near $70,000.
I think the diesel you'll see in the Q7 will be based on the 3.0 TDI you see in the European market. It'll be much more affordable here in the US market and would make more sense to do that.
I think we'll hear a more difinitive answer from Audi in the next 6 months or so as they tool up for 2008 production.
however the v10 TDI Toureg is 70k so I don't think Audi should have trouble topping that. It does bring up an interesting point though. Volkswagen seems to be intent on blurring the lines between themselves and Audi. I do think that the 3.0 TDI would be a better alternative,but it once again screws Audi out of a power advantage over volkswagen. They need to get strait who the marquee badge is.
Volkswagen seems to be intent on blurring the lines between themselves and Audi.
I think they are pulling back from that if they ever intended that; I think they were just trying to move up-market (which I suppose is where Audi is).
Also, I thought that the V10 was dropped...due to emissions (don’t remember where I read that) niche market any way
How about the 4.0TDI 275hp and 480 lb-ft would do nicely
Unbelievable! It produces a colossal 500 PS and 1,000 Nm of torque!
"The V12 TDI is reminiscent of the engine featured in the new R10 Le Mans racing car – it catapults the driving performance of the Audi Q7 into the echelons of top-class sports cars. The car sprints from 0 to 100 km/h in just 5.5 seconds, and has an electronically governed top speed of 250 km/h. Maximum torque is available from just 1,750 rpm. The high-tech diesel engine, with the world’s first 2,000 bar Bosch Common Rail system, provides the high-performance Audi SUV with superior power reserves in any situation. The impressive sound of the new Audi is provided by the ultra-modern piezo-injection system. The V12 TDI transmits this power through a new six-speed tiptronic gearbox to the quattro permanent four-wheel drive system."
"Up to 2,000 bar of pressure is kept within the twelve piezo injectors – a further technological breakthrough. Both performance and efficiency are optimised by this high injection pressure, and the running smoothness also remains excellent. Exhaust emissions are also low. The twin-turbo V12 TDI conforms to the Euro 5 emissions class which should come into force in 2010. Fuel consumption is only 11.9 litres per 100 kilometres. With the high-tech twelve-cylinder engine using TDI technology, the diesel pioneers at Audi have opened new horizons in motoring."
Audi gone wild! Audi is the technological wunderkind.
I'd like a 2008 Q7 with the 3.0 TDI diesel. My understanding is that engine will be available in the USA next year. I think the Q7 is competing with the Acura MDX. If I can get mid/upper 20s mpg w/ the 3.0 I'd want it.
My other car is a 2006 Jetta diesel. I do like getting +50 mpg!
I believe that the 3.0TDI is coming next year...the article above (on the V12TDI) also mentions that the 4.2TDI will be offered; which will give a full range of diesels (from practical to opulent)
We have been waiting for months to take delivery of a 4.2 premium with third row electronic seats (they go up and down at the push of the button). My dealer, who is supposedly one of the largest in the mid-west has not received any in stock. Was hoping that someone might have some feedback on the status of this feature and the availability of cars.
3rd row electronic seats in a Q7? You're mistaken. There's no such thing. It's quite simple to use with the flick of a lever and they go down, but it's manual.
4.2 Premiums are in very hard to get right now. Audi had a back-log trying to fill these orders because of the tech package with the back-up cameras, which were in short supply.
I don't think it is a actual ban on diesels (not directly anyway), just that they don't meet the stricter emission controls.
I'm not sure what diesels currently pass the emissions regulation in NY or CT; I believe the recent Edmunds article on MB's Bluetech states they they failed in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York and Vermont; but plan to meet 50 state emissions by 2008.
Not sure about Audi...would assume it's a similar situation
I understand Audi no longer offers free scheduled maintenance. They want to charge $550 for 3 years, which basically covers one service per year according to their recommended intervals.
Are there any deals where this is included or discounted?
You cant get an electronically folding third row in the q7. You must be thinking about the GL, but i can tell you that your car wont have electronic 3rd seats so dont be dissapointed when it is delivered...
I am assuming that the notion of the "powered" 3rd row seats, may have been initiated by an Audi Q7 TV commercial, which includes an animation of both the 2nd and 3rd row, folding and unfolding without manual intervention. This would appear to be simply a tool used to demonstrate the concept, rather than a powered mechanism.
Okay the Q7 microsite is up and when checking standard options on the 3.6 not to mention the rest of the line, it mentions the techno package as standard? Now dealers are saying you have to pay extra for techno package? Whats up? is Techno included or not. Now go and build the 3.6 premiuim you will notice it gives you no option to choose techno package but it does on the 4.2 Help, is Techno package standard feature or not??? Is this deceptive advertising legal disclaimer on Audi site makes not mention of that they are not liable for errors? Lets see!!!!!!!! Streets of tomorrow are all full of potholes........ :mad:
Audi JUST redesigned their entire website about 3 days ago. I think they forgot to include a couple of things when they did so, like the limestone grey leather for the Q7, or the 4 zone climate control...they will probably have the problems worked out in a few weeks, i would hope so....The technology package is an option, the website is wrong (i would not trust it). The best way to see options available on the Q7 is to go to a dealership and get a price sheet, or research websites such as this one or cars.com will have have detailed pricing/option sheets for any car...
Try this link. It will take you to an options file on audiworld.com. Although this file may be out of date, it does a very good job of showing the various options vs standard equipment specs for the 4 currently available models of the Q7 in the United States.
The Audi Q7 is on my shopping list for a replacement vehicle once my A6 lease expires; however, I am totally bent out of shape by the fact that the Q7 does not offer limited slip front and rear differentials. Furthermore, Audi's marketing of their AWD vehicles has been much too secretive regarding detailed specifications with the result that one has to work too hard to find out which of several different available Quattro systems one is getting with a specific model. The Quattro brand no longer promises anything specific in value -- just marketing hype. After complaining for years that 90-degree V6 engines are inherently out of balance, I now find out that the Q7 uses the 15-degree VW V6 engine which is very close to the configuration of an in-line six and therefore inherently in better balance; however Audi fails to mention the angle between cylinder banks in the Q7 brochure for the V6. That is selling the product short and, again, making propective customers work too hard to do business with Audi. What is Audi's marketing smoking these days?
The vast majority of shoppers don't care about differentials, engine balance, cylinder angles, and other technical issues. They just want their vehicle to perform to their liking. Is the acceleration adequate? Can the car handle any maneuvers you may make easily, comfortably, and safely? Will it get stuck in the mud or snow? If everything actually performs the way you need, then it's really not just marketing hype. It's mission accomplished.
BTW, I pick up my 3.6 Premium tomorrow. Technology, infotainment, and convenience packages, 7 passenger, 4-zone climate. Basically fully loaded except for sunroof (which I really don't need). Condor gray with limestone gray interior.
MSRP $54,660 Selling price $53,346 36 month lease, 10K miles 61% residual, .00155 MF Bank fee and 8.625% sales tax rolled into payment Monthly payment $777.34 Security deposit waived (current VW Credit customer--Passat for wife) Due at delivery: first payment plus DMV fees.
Not sure where that info came from, but Audi no longer includes free maintenance. They offer 3 years full maintenance prepaid for an upfront charge of $550. I just got my dealer to split the cost with me, so I'm paying an extra $275 for it. Ultimately that should be around the actual cost of oil changes etc, so it's not too bad a deal. It's just annoying, since I believe most of the competing models include maintenance at no extra charge.
You can use the Contact Us form at the Help link when you spot errors like this. Meanwhile, I'll send a note along and try to get it looked at as well. Thanks!
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I just got delivery of a Q7 less than 60 days ago.For the last 9 days it has been 120 miles away at the dealership in Boise. The sunroof would not close and the battery went dead.I got a call this morning at10am saying it was ready and where would shall we deliver it to. I told them Hailey Airport.
I asked if the problem had been fixed they said no but the car is Ready.They could not find the problem even with a German tec flying in. But the roof started to work ok so it is now Ready. 4 hours later I receive another call from Audi saying they had bad news, they have no provisions in their Roadside assistance to deliver it back to me. I am alone 120 miles away on vacation, 1200 miles from home, how do they expect me to collect it.
Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this car and get a new one?? Please help!!
I have the Consumer Report full reliability report in front of me. They rate reliability along 14 dimensions. It clearly shows that older Audi had somewhat lackluster reliability (especially compared to Japanese cars).
If you look at 2004, the picture is different:
A4 4-cyl. AWD: Top rated for all 14 dimensions
A4 V6: Top rated in 12 dimensions with two dimensions getting the second best score.
CR didn't have enough data to rate A6s, A8s and TTs for 2004. All these cars had very decent ratings for 2003. Before that time, it wasn't as good.
I bought a 2001 A4 Avant Quattro. This is my first German car after owning only Japanese cars. I have had more or less the same type of problems I did with my Toyotas and Hondas. Parts and service are not cheap (nor was it for my Japanese cars).
However, for the first 4 years, service and maintenance was free. The dealership was awesome. Never had a better experience before. I'm thinking of buying the Q7 from exactly the same dealer ship (after some negos). Btw, even today, I still use the same dealer to service my car (even though I have to pay for it now).
And my A4 is so much fun to drive and comfortable (unlike some of the American cars I have to rent on business trip).
In summary, if you have the money, go for it!
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I think that was the exact same truck sitting in the showroom last tuesday. Don't know about the suspension but everything else fits. Not sure if it was already sold but...... Since you live near here have you tried to shop at another audi dealer to see if you could shave a few bucks off the price?? Just curious.
Did you buy it from them? If, so pay them and then take it up with Audi. They owe you the reimbursement.
and paid road side assistance and delivered it back to me.
It was a brand new car 2000 miles on the clock, why would I go out of pocket for an Audi problem?
My advice never pay upfront!!~
Audi did the good job with the 3.6 motor. I just wish the mileage was a little better than 16/20.
But I can't see how a RR sport is a better buy than the Q7. It's not that fast, small & quite heavy.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/FREE/60821010/1041/M- ICROSITE
1. Does the 3.6 use premium gasoline?
2. Will the upcoming 2008 diesel be the V10 in the Toureg or will it be a six?
Thanks for the info. I can't find it anywhere!
Jay
I think the diesel you'll see in the Q7 will be based on the 3.0 TDI you see in the European market. It'll be much more affordable here in the US market and would make more sense to do that.
I think we'll hear a more difinitive answer from Audi in the next 6 months or so as they tool up for 2008 production.
I do think that the 3.0 TDI would be a better alternative,but it once again screws Audi out of a power advantage over volkswagen. They need to get strait who the marquee badge is.
I think they are pulling back from that if they ever intended that; I think they were just trying to move up-market (which I suppose is where Audi is).
Also, I thought that the V10 was dropped...due to emissions (don’t remember where I read that) niche market any way
How about the 4.0TDI 275hp and 480 lb-ft would do nicely
V12 TDI
0-60 under 5.5 and mileage in the 20ish mpg for average (if I understand the Euro l/100km conversion correctly).
Sound like a wonderful family hauler
tidester, host
"The V12 TDI is reminiscent of the engine featured in the new R10 Le Mans racing car – it catapults the driving performance of the Audi Q7 into the echelons of top-class sports cars. The car sprints from 0 to 100 km/h in just 5.5 seconds, and has an electronically governed top speed of 250 km/h. Maximum torque is available from just 1,750 rpm. The high-tech diesel engine, with the world’s first 2,000 bar Bosch Common Rail system, provides the high-performance Audi SUV with superior power reserves in any situation. The impressive sound of the new Audi is provided by the ultra-modern piezo-injection system. The V12 TDI transmits this power through a new six-speed tiptronic gearbox to the quattro permanent four-wheel drive system."
"Up to 2,000 bar of pressure is kept within the twelve piezo injectors – a further technological breakthrough. Both performance and efficiency are optimised by this high injection pressure, and the running smoothness also remains excellent. Exhaust emissions are also low. The twin-turbo V12 TDI conforms to the Euro 5 emissions class which should come into force in 2010. Fuel consumption is only 11.9 litres per 100 kilometres. With the high-tech twelve-cylinder engine using TDI technology, the diesel pioneers at Audi have opened new horizons in motoring."
Audi gone wild! Audi is the technological wunderkind.
Let me have one of these now.
My other car is a 2006 Jetta diesel. I do like getting +50 mpg!
Thanks.
4.2 Premiums are in very hard to get right now. Audi had a back-log trying to fill these orders because of the tech package with the back-up cameras, which were in short supply.
what about CT.
I'll be in the market the summer of 07 for a new truck and this diesel monster sounds like a winner
I'm not sure what diesels currently pass the emissions regulation in NY or CT; I believe the recent Edmunds article on MB's Bluetech states they they failed in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York and Vermont; but plan to meet 50 state emissions by 2008.
Not sure about Audi...would assume it's a similar situation
Are there any deals where this is included or discounted?
This would appear to be simply a tool used to demonstrate the concept, rather than a powered mechanism.
Lets see!!!!!!!! Streets of tomorrow are all full of potholes........ :mad:
http://www.audiworld.com/model/q7.html
After complaining for years that 90-degree V6 engines are inherently out of balance, I now find out that the Q7 uses the 15-degree VW V6 engine which is very close to the configuration of an in-line six and therefore inherently in better balance; however Audi
fails to mention the angle between cylinder banks in the Q7 brochure for the V6. That is selling the product short and, again, making propective customers work too hard to do business with Audi. What is Audi's marketing smoking these days?
MSRP $54,660
Selling price $53,346
36 month lease, 10K miles
61% residual, .00155 MF
Bank fee and 8.625% sales tax rolled into payment
Monthly payment $777.34
Security deposit waived (current VW Credit customer--Passat for wife)
Due at delivery: first payment plus DMV fees.
I believe it's a great deal. Any comments?
Thanks I am shopping for Q7 myself
http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/maintenance.do
2007 Audi Q7 4.2 Premium quattro 4dr SUV AWD (4.2L 8cyl 6A)
Note:
Free scheduled maintenance is provided by the vehicle manufacturer for four (4) years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first.