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Now if it needs stuff, I'd argue you don't want it at all, but if i stands tall, it shouldn't be too hard to find someone with, uh, mature tastes who wants it. I know I could in my (GM) town.
-Mathias
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1992/buick/roadmaster/513/options.html
Here's one with low miles and a $2,500 asking price. I bet you could get it for $2,000.
92 Buick for Sale
No way I'd pay much more for it. These are have little value.
Shifty's right that it's no great prize... it all depends on the local market. The weird thing about the used-car business is that the professionals have all the information... but the buyers determine the value of any car by paying up... or not.
Terry's creed was to always step up to the plate for the nicest cars with the lowest mileage. So let the record show that if I wanted one, I'd pay $3 in a heartbeat for the one you were describing. If we're spending your $$$, so much the better.
-Mathias
No harm at $3,000 for a pristine car, but that's about the limit.
I'd lowball the car and then walk away.
MV Agusta Brutale 750
Not sure I could tell someone I drove a "Brutale" with a straight face. (means "beast" basically).
Misreading the market for rough looking Rancheros
Another contender for Andre
Decent starting point
Car is balls to the wall Flamethrowers??? What is this, Grease?
Is this worth much?
The car runs perfect but am unable to start it.
Sitting hasn't done that interior any good
A "Greased" Mustang makes me think "Lawn Guyland".
Interior on that Plymouth looks like some badgers got into it.
79 Benz 230C -- $1,500--$2,000 would be more than enough and then you're only starting to throw money at it. But you would be the only one on your block---forever.
5.0 Mustang -- most are thrashed mercilessly into a wheezing bucket of bolts---the grilled gas pedal and recently mashed and repaired T5 does not bode well here. A test drive and an eyeball will tell all in 15 minutes.
68 Plymouth Fury -- eh, a 4-door, 318 sedan formerly used as a chicken coop? No, I don't think this car needs to be saved except for parts for more worthy '68s. Parts!
or just scroll to the bottom where everything is in English.
Weight is about 400 lbs and 125 horsepower.
http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/Brutale_Serie_Oro.html
Need to get them to work on my Suburban...5000 lbs, so, what, 1500 hp? That'll do :shades:
black horse
It's a fairly primitive chassis with many limitations. But still, not a bad ride for the $$$, not bad at all. I'd give it a second look.
I guess if you want the world's newest '77 Can Am, then there you go. Exactly what you do with it after that, I'm not sure.
Just don't drive it!
probably not original, but a lot of work was put into it.
old cat
This looks good but it still hasn't doubled in value since new It is an 87 el camino. Who cares? Does this guy know all the cars that you can get for 28 grand???
This on the other hand looks pretty reasonable
Those big '71-76 era Impalas and Caprices are starting to get a following among the hiphop/pimp-my-ride/bling-bling crowd, but I dunno if that's enough to jack up the value on this one to anywhere near its asking price.
And that '87 El Camino SS is totally off the charts, too. Again, they do have their following, but I don't think it's anywhere near enough to push their value up this high. Also, it's not like it had a high performance engine or anything. While the Monte SS had a hopped up 305-4bbl with 180 hp, I'm pretty sure the El Camino just had a mild 4-bbl with 150 hp. Starting in 1985, it put out 165 hp in full-sized cars like the Caprice and Parisienne, and in pickup trucks, but in midsizers like the Bonneville G, non-SS Monte Carlo, El Camino, and Grand Prix, it just stayed at 150 hp. I'm guessing there was something more restrictive about the intake or exhaust on the midsized cars.
Yeah, that's just it...if I were to buy this Roadmaster, it would be my main ride, replacing my Intrepid. Now with the way I drive these days, I'd probably only put about 5,000 miles per year on it, so it would take another 10 years for it to reach 100K! I'd try to take reasonable care of it to make it last as long as possible, but I'd have no delusions of trying to preserve it for all eternity, such as with my '57 DeSoto or '67 Catalina.
Since I got back from Carlisle, I've driven my Intrepid to work a couple times, and, as luck would have it, the stalling problem is not repeating itself. I have my "new" '79 NYer at the mechanic right now to fix its occasional refusal to start, and when that one's done, I'm going to drop off the Intrepid and see if he can figure out what's wrong with it. So for the time being, I'm trying to push that '92 Roadmaster out of my mind. If the Intrepid comes back with some fatal repair estimate, I might be tempted. Or, I might just unload it, save some money on insurance by cutting it from the fleet, and just switch back and forth between my two NYers for daily transportation. Even though they're a bit thirsty, the ~$550 per year in insurance that the Intrepid is costing me, plus the savings of not buying another car to replace it, can buy an awful lot of gas!
Funny, but that $4800 actually didn't seem like a bad price to me, at first. Until this forum brought me back down to reality! :shades:
1998 BMW 323ic
Convertible
2.5L I6, 5 speed manual
RWD
Mileage: 77,112
Black exterior, black roof, and tan interior
Sports package, leather, dual zone climate control. I think it has everything.
The paint is very good, but has a few minor dings that are mainly visible because its a black car. Top is excellent. Interior is excellent.
Tires are 90%. ZR Continentals on flawless 16" Z3 wheels
Brakes - good
Maintenance - good, new framework and motor for the convertible top
Squeaky clean carfax, no paintwork
The response:
Trade is prob going to be in the $5-6,000 range.
You should be able to do far better selling it privately.
It is nearly identical to this one.
This got me thinking about at what point private party values and trade in values start to get really far apart. In my case, private party is nearly twice that of trade in.
For exactly 100 cars -
Range of prices within this search:
Highest Price: $18,975
Lowest Price: $ 7,800
Average Price: $11,913
Figure people will give you perhaps a 10% discount from their asking price, making it around $10,721
And that matches up well with the Ebay prices you quoted. Sounds like you got the ##.
Andre probably has cars that a dealer wouldn't give him $200 for scrap value, but he could sell them on eBay for $3-4,000.
Dealers play the odds, private party buyers don't.
So if the car is not a hot re-seller, the dealers' interest wanes and he offers less for it.
Another factor is reconditioning. I have found that many private sellers are somewhat clueless as to what it will take to recon their cars. They look at bumper scratches and dings as nothing, dirty carpets as "just needing a vacuum", dirty engines as "it looks fine to me" and tires as "they still have some tread on them"---whereas the dealer sees $1,000 bucks to shape the car up and get top dollar.
Yup, nothing like re-inventing the Pinto - perfect for roasting marshmallows after a rear collision. :surprise:
"First...I'm not positive that the frame is straight and true" = "Car was hit by a speeding freight train"
By now most of those problems should be sorted out. I would make sure the timing chain tensioner has been replaced with the correct updated parts. I doubt a XJ-V8 with the Nikasil issue could have survived to almost 100,000 miles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_AJ-V8_engine
edit - I read that recent used big SUVs are piling up on dealers' lots, to the point where they don't want them. Same problem, maybe?
Those Mark V's are big, bulky cars, although I think they actually are about 500-600 pounds lighter than the Mark IV. From what I've experienced riding with my buddy who has the two '78 Diamond Jubilee models, they're still powerful enough to scare ya. Of course, the bouncy suspension, Andrea Doria-esque body listing every time you make a lane change, etc, only exaggerates the experience.
I guess if a wild, aggressive driver can get crazy behind the wheel of ANY car, but hopefully that 20 year old has taken care of that Mark. I was always fairly gentle with my '57 DeSoto, but part of that reason was probably because it doesn't have seatbelts! But then, when I bought that car, I realized that it was something I wanted to keep around for a long, long time, so even if it did have seatbelts, I probably wouldn't have been too rough on it.