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Its kinda odd, I think. On the first page of 25 results alone, I count 14 replicas, 2 clones, 1 retro rod, and 5 cars that have no business on there at all ('04 bmw, '99 acura, etc).
That leaves 2 arguable entries:
"one of the most stylish and beautiful Cadillacs ever built"
Not sure what this dude was thinking.
And the 1 true classic car on there ....
Can you call it restored when you don't even use the right engine?
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Camaro guy is off a little. He could have made a better choice of a collector's item - not sure what, but something must be better. For spare parts on that car, I would have gone with computer modules or electronics rather than the gas tank.
Maybe the Packard guy was restoring it to its 1974 condition instead of original condition.
With that era of personal luxury coupe though, I actually prefer the Toronado and the Riviera. They started off with the same Olds 350, but after that usually came with reliable, durable Olds 307's, although in some years they slipped Buick 4.1 V-6es in them. I always thought the Rivs and Toros were more stylish though, with more tasteful interiors. They had an upscale, quality look to them, without appearing pimpy like the Eldorados.
PACKARD -- I don't understand why you'd go through all the trouble of installing a Chevy crate motor and then not put in a modern overdrive automatic? Well you get what you pay for I guess.
That's got to be a very low-end Packard. Note the dog-dish hubcaps. I'm sure it's rare for a Packard.
But it looks like its been reprayed. Hopefully it is a halfway decent job and not hiding anything.
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The best in the world might bring $7,000, with no chance of any future appreciation on this model beyond inflationary upticks.
These can be daily drivers if you a) buy one in great shape from the get-go and b) spend enough each year to stay on top of it. Plan on at least $100 a month averaged out for basic maintenance and replacement of expendables.
These are BIG cars. Nice ride, though.
Sorry about your loss. I don't believe the 83 Lebaron has any collector car value. If it has sentimental value to you then keep it, otherwise expect to get a few hundred bucks for it as it's a 25 year old used car.
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And actually, it might make a decent daily driver in these times of high gas prices. I imagine it has the 2.2 with a 3-speed automatic? Even though it doesn't have overdrive, it's still fairly economical. I had an '88 LeBaron turbo coupe, and it could break 30 mpg on the highway.
But yeah, try Craigslist, eBay, some of the Mopar clubs. I imagine if you just do a Google search for "Mopar Club", a lot of stuff would come up. Two that I know of right off-hand are the Mopar Mailing List and the Chrysler Products Owners Club of America.
Good luck with it.
That episode was a total hoot. Thanks for the memory, Lemko.
Turned out it was the wrong Jon Voight though.
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This is still available
Euro model, never sold here officially (it's actually an SE model), cheap, what's not to like other than the mileage
Good beater W126 - although it can't be after 1988
it's not like you are going to go racing for pinks with it.
Regarding the cheaper one, I just noticed the windshield says 88, that must be what it is. For 1989 the W126 received a smoother steering wheel texture and different upholstery pattern. It's kind of sad that such details live right at the top of my head.
Just for comparison, here are some 1980 0-60 times, taken from a Mopar police car book I have...
Corvette 350: 7.4 seconds
Trans Am Turbo 301: 8.2 seconds
Camaro Z-28 350: 8.5 seconds
Dodge Mirada CMX 360: 10.5 seconds
Fastest police car in 1980: Dodge Aspen 360, 10.9 seconds.
Those civilian car tests were from C&D and MT, who would tend to shift automatics manually, power-brake, etc...do whatever it took to get the quickest time possible. For the copcar tests, they just put two cops in the car and had them take off, flooring it but not doing anything special.
So yeah, 1980 wasn't exactly a stellar year for performance. :sick:
There was an optional 350 for the 1980 Corvette that had 230 hp, so I guess that could have been the one that was tested. Standard 350 just had 190 hp, and a 180 hp 305 was a credit option.
The Camaro Z-28 also used a 190 hp 350. The Turbo Trans Am's 301 had 210 hp. And the Mirada CMX had a 185 hp 360.
Top Mustang engine for 1980, believe it or not, was a 2.3 turbo! 140 hp. According to my old car book, the 302 was not offered that year. Only V-8 was a 118 hp 255. I imagine the 2.3 turbo would've been pretty quick in that light body, but my copcar book didn't list it or any stats on it like they did those other cars. I know once the 302 came back to the Mustang, with 157 hp, it was pretty quick, but that was a few years off.
The American mags could get in the low-mid 10s for the detuned NA market 380SEL that year.
Survival rate on this kind of thing has to be low
Woohoo!
Who do I contact to let them know I'll take every one they have on hand?
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Then to top it off, I lost the keys to the Catalina!
I ended up driving my '79 NYer, the base blue one that used to leave me stranded at work until I had the carb rebuilt. Would have taken the 5th Ave, but the LeMans was blocking it in and I didn't feel like pushing it out the garage and then uphill to get the 5th Ave out. Plus, the base NYer, while not as trustworthy to drive, is a bit more presentable for a car show.
And damn if it didn't die on me, at the grocery store, about 2 miles from home when I stopped off to get ice for the cooler! :mad: I was just about to give up on it and call one of my roommates to come get me, when I finally jiggled around with the choke in just the right way and got it to fire up. I was probably taking a chance driving it all the way up to that car show, which was about a 392 mile round trip. But the car did fine, and even managed to get about 19 mpg on that trip, which ain't too bad because I wasn't exactly trying to hypermile it! Oh, I did lose a hubcap along the way though. Didn't notice until I actually got up to the show. So the car did look a bit ghetto sitting out on that show field.
I think I miffed off someone, too. When they had us park on the field, I pulled in next to this nice 1966 or so Chrysler Newport. I didn't see that a '60 Caddy pulled in next to me. The guy with the Newport struck up a conversation with me, started talking about his love of Chryslers. I admitted that my original plan was to bring a '76 LeMans to the show, but it wouldn't start, so maybe that was God's way of telling me to stick with Mopar! I happened to turn at that moment, and saw the guy with the '60 Caddy was giving me a not-so-amused look. Oops!
Well, as fate would have it, the LeMans finally did fire back up on Sunday. I had its battery out and on a trickle charge, so I just put in the new battery intended for the Catalina. I took a sock and sprayed it with starting fluid and covered the carb throat. Dang thing fired right up!
And yesterday, I finally found the keys to my convertible. They were actually under the hood. I'm guessing that I put them under there when I was messing around trying to get it started. I'd had the car's battery out at this point, trying to charge it back up. Sometimes if you just hook jumper cables right to the terminals, with no battery in it, it's still enough to start the car. But this time it didn't. So I'm guessing I gave up, had the keys in my hand, and laid them down on the front bulkhead/radiator support/whatever you call it. Unhooked the jumper cables, put them away, and then closed the hood, forgetting about the keys.
So I'm reasonably happy now, and all is right with the world.
Oh, and the guy who's buying my beat-up '68 Dart stopped by yesterday, and gave me another $100 towards it. He wants to come out on Saturday, finish paying for it, and finally pick it up. So I guess there will be an empty spot in my driveway just waiting to be filled. :shades:
I left a quart of oil under the hood of the S2000 last week. I remembered it before I started the car, though.
One when I was a kid I locked the keys to the Tempo in the trunk. To save face and not call someone to bring me a spare, I removed the rear seatback and got them myself.
Years ago when doing some kind of fine tuning with the fintail, I took off my watch and placed it some distance from the car - I was in the parking lot of my old condo. I finished my work, drove the car around...and ran over the watch, destroying it. I also have a bad habit of leaving the key to that car right in the ignition.
AARGG! Somebody owned a Tempo - and is willing to admit it?
I was about to comment on the alignment issues, but I see someone on Ebay took care of that for me. The other thing, though, is that something is wrong with that inspection sticker. I'm pretty damned sure our stickers don't have vin numbers on them and they certainly don't look like they are trimmed by a 2nd grader.
Pretty light description for someone who has supposedly owned since new.
OK, you have to look at the pics. I think this may be deserving of a "write a caption" contest.
I think a couple of you guys will love this.
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Think we could get him to use Edmunds TMV for a value?
why am I always tempted by these?
May be a good amount of fun left in the car for the money.
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The 1970 Riviera never really excited me. That seemed like a transition year to me, and the car just looked too much like a bloated Skylark. Seemed kinda old fogey, whereas earlier Rivs were more upscale yet sporty at the same time. When the Boattail came out for '71, it seemed like they tried to return to sportiness, even if the thing was watered down to a guzzied up LeSabre coupe by '74. Still, that one doesn't look too bad at first glance. Although I think it's been repainted. In some of the closeup shots, the reflections in the paint just look too fuzzy, kinda like a cheap repaint with lots of orange peel. As long as the paint wasn't faded, the finish on older cars tended to give a clearer reflection than many modern cars! Maybe it could just be buffed out, though?
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