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www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/first-look-2007-
hyundai-azera-406/index.htm
has a report on the Azera. Although not the complete report it has more detail than appeared in "2006 Cars" in the April magazine. This review is quite favorable. The full road test together with a comparison of competing autos is promised to on-line to subscribers in July and in the August issue of the magazine.
Should the good tone of the shorter review be carried through to the full report we may see a pick-up in Azera sales.
The road is flat and there was little or no head winds. I suspect that the variability is due to tire or fuel temperature or both. As the tires get warmer they expand and if the odometer depends on the number of wheel revolutions the mpg meter will use a distance less than that really travelled. Similarly as the fuel gets warmer and less dense more gallons would be needed to travel the same distance.
Has anybody checked the accuracy of the mpg meter?
Jeez! That just CAN'T be correct... :surprise: Can you give us a URL to reference that? That is only about 15 units a week. ?? :confuse:
You may have dropped a zero there.
John
My Azera has been great thus far. I have had a lot of positive comments. My son's friends call it the "James Bond" car because of it's tinted windows on black and it's many gadgets. Everyone who rides in it is very impressed.
Yet, with my 2100 miles of travel on the roads, I have yet to see another Azera. Yes, it's true . . . I haven't seen any at all. I drive in the metro Salt Lake City area. I KNOW there must be some out there, but I find it odd that I haven't come across another Azera yet.
With all the trouble Hyundai is having lately, I hope poor sales of one of their best cars doesn't cause panic.
Do any of you know why sales of Hyundai products including the Azera are so sluggish?
Ever heard 'Vehicle'??? A tune from the early 70's, it plays well for a 'friendly stranger in a black sedan won't you jump inside my car, I'll take you anywhere you want to go'
Could it be the price of petrol and the impact it has on 'everything' we consume??? :sick: :confuse:
Possibly, global economy/spending is slow and there could be a bajillion reasons??? :confuse:
We've seen three on the road and one car transporter but the coolest thing :shades: is the Beemers, Mercedes, Acuras to name a few that cruise along side and stare.
I still have not seen another Azera on the road in the Maryland area. My wife saw one, but not me. I have had mine for 10 weeks, approaching 2K miles...I love it! I am upset though about the outside mirrors "not tilting" in reverse, as promised by the manual! My MPG's are still about 5 below the estimate. Maybe in time, this will increase.
When I did my test drive, I purposely took it straight out on the Interstate, reset the computer and locked cruise control at 60MPH and found I was getting 30.5MPG over flat terrain (which is pretty much all there is in lower-state South Carolina) in no wind. I think the extra mileage is there - just need to do a few things like put in a less restrictive air filter (PureOne is my favorite - everybody can argue that 'til the cows come home) and watch the revs to keep them as low as possible and get the shift pattern down to where it cleanly shifts up at a lower rev... Of course, for the first few years everybody likely wants to stick with the dealer oil changes, but - I'd be tempted to swap out to Pennzoil Platinum 5W20 if I were ya'll! It's a very advanced true synthetic - should be better for everyone including the environment in the long run, and keep your engine nice and clean and relatively cool.
TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC, BUT:
I know driving my wife's Infiniti '02 I-35 to work and back with that oil it keeps the engine temp about 15-20* below where it always was (i.e. sticking well below due east which is 'normal' for that vehicle). That car is rated 22 city and 26 overall, but I get 28-29 if I drive normally and up to 31 if I really baby it... Of course, I'm 52 years old and don't allow myself to be tempted to sport around too much, although the horses are 260 and torque 255. Setting it on 70MPH on the open freeway between Columbia and Charleston I can hold it on a solid 31MPG all the way home! It will get 35MPG at cruise-controlled 55...
Major likes on the Azera:
- Brakes - capable with great pedal feel - limo stops are real easy
- Active safety (ESC, TCS - extra cost options on others or not avaialble)
- Power (great gobs of torque!!)
- Fit and finish (as good as the Toyota and an order of magnitude better than the Ford)
Dislikes:
- Steering feel
- Floaty ride (which my wife lieks - oh well)
- $11 oil filter cartridges
I get Automotive News and a quick check of sales figures for the Azera doesn't help much because AN is lumping Azera and XG350 together.
SWMBO was miffed after purchasing hers. For weeks we had not seen another one on the road (and that included several long trips) and then, the day after she takes receipt of hers, she sees one at the local post office.
One question - what did the dealer have to do to activate the auto-locking mechanism for the doors?
You might as well have them program your favorite four-digit code for the "limp home" mode which is used to get your car to a dealer if somebody has activated the engine shut-down mode by trying to steal your vehicle.
Talks about programing door locks, easy out and limp home mode.
We have same vehicle, see you have good taste.
Ours are programed to lock when taken out of park and not to unlock because the driver and passenger can just pull handle to open, those in the back seat have to wait for the driver to unlock or unlock manually themselves.
Ez-out is fun for some, your choice.
Limp home is your choice of four numbers, details in that fold out booklet.
When the vehicle is unlocked you can open the trunk like opening the back door of an SUV.
Enjoy.....you now be :shades:
Oh, well - they all ain't that bright!
BTW, Salfano, the power mirrors are part fo the Ultimate package and there is a button to fold the mirrors near the mirror adjust switches. There is nothing automagic about folding the mirrors - has to be done via the switch.
Now do realize that if one speaks creatively to the service person and/or salesperson this is usually a freebe.
Da mirrors can be folded at any time, sounds like airline flaps being adjusted, providing of course the little adjustment lever is in the middle, switch is in front of this lever.
We fold ours in the garage, when we park, on the interstate or rural roads when traffic is very light and when the car behind has poorly aligned headlamps or doesn't know their brights are on, or drive with the fog lights or similar on, may even go as far as raising the screen.
Can't figure out why, but some drive with fog or similar lights on in the city or rural, they do not improve visibility and actually may blind other drivers because they usually are out of alignment.
Did you test drive the Sonata before buying the Azera, and if so how did it compare?
-Loren
With some posters mentioning slow Azera sales I wonder if Hyundai will stay on this course or delay the introduction of a high-end luxury model or brand.
... - $11 oil filter cartridges"
Purolator has one on the way. They should be in stores early next month.
If anyone else is interested in swapping out their speakers...a couple things to note. The factory speakers are held in with rivets, so you'll have to drill them out to remove the speakers. Also, unless you have a continuity tester, leave all 4 panels off before re-installing so you can make sure you have the speakers in phase (you'll know if they are not by the lack of bass response). To simplify installation, you may want to contact Crutchfield and get speaker harness adapters that let you simply plug into the factory speaker harness and no worries. Whatever speaker you choose, make sure it's a shallow mount speaker as the factory speaker is built into a housing that keeps the magnet out of the door cavity completely...the aftermarket speaker will mount in the door unless you create a mounting ring for the speaker to bring it out some (maybe 1" - 1 1/2").
Anyway, after installation...the sound is even more crisp, sharper and carries much more clarity. Can't wait to add my sub in the trunk to handle the lower frequencies.
Certainly, it's your decision to decide if you want automatic door lock options or not.
Locked or unlocked doors while driving is one really good question??? :confuse:
Today :sick: sadly, car jacking is becoming more common and it can happen almost anywhere at any time.
Our thoughts, may be taken as you wish, on the subject of locking doors;
1. We keep the doors locked as much is reasonably possible when we are in the vehicle
2. Approaching the parked vehicle, I auto unlock when within steps and put the keys in my pocket, not held in my hand, and as soon as we get in and close the doors I manually lock the doors before I put the key in the ignition
3. When we stop/park, the doors stay locked even when put in park and the ignition is turned off
4. When stopping for fuel, quick convienience stops, dry cleaners etc, we remove the key from the ignition, lock the doors and secure the key
5. We lock the vehicle if it sits in the driveway
Guess you could say this is paranoid or just acceptance of living in todays society, your choice.
We have even trained our children to do the same. The daughter did it begrudgingly, laughed at me, but when one person tried to get in while she was stopped for a red light, she immediately understood why papa was so redundant.
And to answer the question about the doors being locked in a crash, safe or not safe??? :confuse:
Today the Azera and some other vehicles have doors that electronically unlock in an accident. Not to many years ago that was not so and the decision to lock or not while driving becomes subjective and the sole decision of the driver.
Again, so that we all don't go off and write fifty replies/opinions to this please consider that these are our views and everybody is entitled to their own views.
Thank you and good day
I had a Terracan and decided to unplug the connector to the dinger unit....great no dinger...but when I turned the ignition On, all four windows went down and stayed down....a deterrent to owners unpluging things...put the plug back on...the dinger dinged and windows went back up. Moral of the story....don't fiddle. Nigel
Hope your family can move to a safer place to live some day. Sounds like a high crime area.
Don't you roll down the windows while in town?
Did you test drive any Japan or US makes, like say a Buick, before buying the Azure? I sure like the content to price ratio for all the Hyundai line. Test drove a Tiburon one fine day, then recently did a little run in a Mustang V6. I think the Tib feel better. And the car looks richer too. Every detail from using the old prop for the hood, to the plastic used on the dash, makes a Mustang still look cheaper. If someone had said that a Hyundai would look, feel and have more solid content than a US car after seeing the first Hyundai cars, I would have thought them to be crazy. Now Hyundai did their homework, and seems to be giving lessons to American car companies on how to succeed. While I thought it to be too soon for the Azera luxury car to be introduced, I certainly may be proven wrong. Perhaps the American buyer is ready higher priced Korean models -- maybe?
-Loren
OK, if you know a 'safe' place to live share it with us and we will google the town and verify the lack of crime.
Welcome to the USA, lets face it the days of leaving the front door unlocked and the keys in the ignition are long gone.
Yes, drove, tested, read, cocomparedany. Enjoyably the big three are losing market share while Japan and Korea keep increasing market share.
I take it you do not like American car manufactures, GM and Ford.
Over the years, I have had the best luck with the Japan makes of cars. That said, there is data which now shows GM models right there near the top for reliability. How this plays out of five to ten years could be a different story. Have talked to some people that have indeed had good long term cars which were domestics. So far, my 70's and 80's experience was not so good. This leads to the big question for Hyundai. Is the good news to last three years, five years, or ten years for Hyundai cars bought today. If the current reliability numbers continue on with time, then the Azure and Sonata look pretty promising.
That is not a good thing for America, no matter how you slice it.
If you consider the fact that the Japanese and Korean auto makers are building plants here in the U.S. while, at the same time, American auto companies are outsourcing almost everything outside of U.S., I would have to say this is probably good for America for two reasons:
1. Creates jobs here in the states.
2. Gives the U.S. consumer better products.
My $.02
Not true! Insurance claims reports prove there is no shortage of Americans who blindly practice that degree of trust in their fellow man every year. There's even a special title for them: "victims of opportunistic random crime". (The initiation procedure for VoORC status is so simple even idiots often find to their amazement that they've successfully completed it on their very first attempt! Though the cost of initiation can be exhorbitant, fortunately for VoORCs, the rest of us willingly help defray that cost. Is this a great country or what?... )
Keys are a wonderful weapon and should be kept out and in a position to be used if need be.
Guess you could say this is paranoid or just acceptance of living in todays society, your choice.
Paranoid is my pick. I personally keep my car doors unlocked. I rather have them open the door and find nothing then break a window and find nothing.
The daughter did it begrudgingly, laughed at me, but when one person tried to get in while she was stopped for a red light, she immediately understood why papa was so redundant.
Had that happen to me once while I was in High School, it was not that guys lucky day.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
While not precisely what you're after, Hyundai WebTech allows viewing and reading much of the shop manuals for the Azera and Sonata - including the Lambda V6 engine series. For some inexplicable reason, though, the graphics no longer come up - leastways as of last week, the last time I logged on - though text is still available. I have no idea whether this is the result of a "broken" site or whether Hyundai is simply discouraging viewing by non-techs and/or competitiors. Registration is free to anyone.
My local dealer has no shop manuals and tells me when available there will be two and each will cost about $100.
If you go to Froogle:
link title
and search for:
Azera; Hyundai; 2006 Shop Manual Volume 1 of 2
You'll find it for sale for $123.15. Unfortunately I don't know if what is for sale covers the Lambda engine.
I assume people cross shopped Toyota Camry/Avalon, Honda V6, and perhaps even good ol' Buick Lucerne, before deciding on the Azera. What was the one thing which won you over to Hyundai? Or was it a combination of things?
If I may ask, did they come off sticker on the price? I see that the Sonata has the $2K off, and some say they can come down from that price as well. Heck, I like Honda's reputation for reliability, but I see prices hiked on side stickers, so I am thinking they are greedy -- but that may be a local dealer thing. The Hyundai company may be more hungry to get market share and thus deal more. May look at the year end Azera close-out pricing.
I am impressed with the two new V6 engines, as well as, the overall content on Hyundai autos. Never owned one, so I can not attest the cars quality as an owners experience. On the surface it looks like more car, a newer car, as in modern engines and such, when compared to say the GM, or even the latest Ford. GM is going to schemes, like $1.99 per gallon of gas for a years for Californians buying certain cars with OnStar.... and blah, blah, blah. This is so sad - what happened to the cars content. I am over 50 yrs. old, and it all seems like some odd dream, when a smaller Korean car makers appears to be kicking the Generals butt. In 1990, I am sure no one would believe what has occurred before my eyes. I am seeing a 265HP Hyundai luxury car and a 197HP OHV Lucerne being sold on a lot a couple hundred feet away.
Sure they have a V8 at 275HP, but really now???
Good question: If you could buy the Lucerne with the V8 straight across price wise to the Azera, which would you prefer?
-Loren
Has anyone heard anything different?