Dodge Caliber

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  • caliberchiccaliberchic Member Posts: 402
    OEM means Origianl Equipment Manufacture. Other words it's brand name product.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Yes it is AWD all the time for everything that I have read and know about the car. It really won't take more of a beating than the two wheel drive, just a little pricey for tire replacement. But, hey that's what a 2 year lease is all about, eh?
    I have already pushed the car to test the envelope, in a parking lot of course. I REALLY :shades: like the way the 18" tire work with the BIG 4 wheel discs and ABS. It really took a lot of push to break it free. (sorry to repeat from earlier)

    REALLY found that I need/want the stainless sill plates. The plastic ones sure get scratched up quick from my wifes hard shoes!!! Still on order.
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    Thanks Moonhunt for the kind words. I have always wanted to be a teacher and I am so excited that I am getting really close! It has taken me awhile to get my credentials too but I am glad I stuck with it. Good luck to you! Working with Autistic children is not easy so you should be proud too!

    Also, thanks for the link to the Dodge accessories!

    I have not seen the Marine Blue in person but I also think it will be really pretty. My uncle has a light blue Ram truck and I think they are similar except the Caliber is lighter.

    I can't wait for it to come in! I am hoping once my salesman sees my order (he was out sick today so I just made the deposit without him) he will be able to figure out if they have one coming in like it so I can just have that one.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Did not notice right away that you bought one. Congrats!!!! You bought the SXT correct? Did you get anything special on it?

    I hope we did not steer you wrong, we really love our Caliber R/T!!!!

    Not to be personal but what dollar amount did you agree on and was it a purchase or a lease????? (don't feel obligated to answer)
  • calibreathcalibreath Member Posts: 22
    what is the out the door price?
  • kernickkernick Member Posts: 4,072
    It is the total amount you pay for everything for the car: car + delivery + fees + options (all those go to the dealer) + registration and taxes (those 2 are government).

    Since registration and tax rates vary so much across the states, it is much more helpful for all of us to report - just what you paid to the dealer; so we can compare apples to apples.
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    OrangeRT,

    I ordered an SXT. All I have done so far is put down a deposit. I haven't talked numbers as far as the final price yet. Do you have any suggesstions? The salesman keeps saying there isn't much markup and blah blah blah so I will probably end up paying sticker, less the $500 rebate. Is that good/bad/normal? I *think* he did say he would give me $500 off, in addition to the rebate.

    On my SXT, I got the Musicgate, sunroof, fog lamps/daytime running system, and the drivers convenience group.

    I can't wait for it to come in!!!
  • clockmakerclockmaker Member Posts: 9
    "Yes it is AWD all the time for everything that I have read and know about the car. It really won't take more of a beating than the two wheel drive, just a little pricey for tire replacement"

    I don't mean to be argumentative, but this isn't exactly correct. The AWD system is full-time, but works on-demand when the system detects slippage, or when you are constantly driving between 30 and 60 mph. For simple cruising the car only powers the front two wheels, similar to other AWD systems used in various vehicles. The engine does not always power all four wheels.

    With luck my R/T will arrive this week! Have I mentioned that the wait is killing me?
  • nonnemachernonnemacher Member Posts: 98
    If you have a friend or family member that works for DCX or is retired, you can get a fairly sizeable discount. If not, it all comes down to negotiation. In any case, you probably should not pay very much over "invoice" on a domestic car - even if it is high demand.

    On a well equipped SXT, the difference between MSRP and "invoice" is around $1300. Absent the DCX friends/family deal, I'd shoot for $1000 under MSRP and take the rebate off of that.

    You are getting a very nice car - make sure you get a fair price on it too. :)
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Regarding my understanding of the AWD. Thanks for responding! That would make more sense. But the couple pieces of info I read seemed to skip the "on-demand" part. Glad it is, or the gas mileage would be bad, look at Subaru - they are decent mileage. I am very aware of how transmissions/transfer cases work and really thought I was wrong when I read it, but hey isn't everything written in ink factual? LOL LOL :P

    I really LOVE our R/T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ps have you driven an R/T yet??
  • clockmakerclockmaker Member Posts: 9
    I have not been able to drive an R/T yet, unfortunately. To my knowledge the dealership here hasn't received any. They ordered one at the same time I ordered mine. I drove an SXT and felt like I got a good enough impression to go ahead and order the R/T. My wife drove the same SXT a week later and tried her hardest to find something she didn't like about it, and failed. So after explaining to her what differences there would be between the R/T and SXT we went ahead and ordered. I know mine will have a little rougher ride than the SXT, but having the AWD system is important to me- it's a safety concern for how I drive and the climate I live in. Needless to say I won't be posting stellar gas mileage results. :)
  • nonnemachernonnemacher Member Posts: 98
    I traded in a 2004 Saturn (no comments please) on my 2007 Caliber SXT. I got a statement from my insurance company saying my monthly premium has decreased by about $5, but it does not list my Caliber on the form anywhere.

    I hope this is right. Do any other SXT owners have comments on insurance costs?

    Thanks
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Hi Katie! OrangeRT again!!!

    I don't want to suggest what a good or bad price is. Like anything in life, if you want it bad enough price won't matter. The other person who "suggested" $1000 under sticker is giving good advice. You may get more (or less) in your area!! Above sticker would be bad though!!

    Negotiate, Negotiate, Negotiate, get the best deal you can!!! Don't feel pressured either.

    Sounds like you have a killer combo ordered.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Something to the effect that insurance companies can't insure new model year cars until a certain month. Example a 2007 Cailber won't actually be able to be listed as a Caliber until I think the end of April or May. But your still insured.

    Any insurance people out there that can explain it??

    My insurance stayed the same from a 02 Town & Country Full coverage.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    OrangeRT AGAIN!

    Regarding our opinion of the SXT and R/T. Before my wife could drive the R/T she only drove the SXT and like yours loved it. I then explained the same about AWD & 4 wheel disc like you did. She understood, like yours, and then wanted to try the R/T to be safe. Obviously we bought the R/T and love it! (we fight on the weekends who gets to drive, it's hers all week)

    The ride is stiffer and the steering is better too!! Order the mudflaps, they have kept less cr*p off of the lower rear qtrs like they are supposed to.

    Regarding gas mileage, still getting 25. Her Town & Country was getting 20, my 02 Neon 34 (lots of hwy)avg!!!
  • calibreathcalibreath Member Posts: 22
    is that out the door ie taxes and license?
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    So when you say $1000 under sticker, that does not include taxes and license and all that stuff, right?

    I don't think my salesman is going to give it to me for that because he is already acting like he won't be making any money off of it anyway.

    What is a good way to approach this subject? What do I say when wanting to negotiate? I have never done this, as this is my first car I will have bought on my own! My last cars my parents did all the legwork.

    P.S. Can you do the college grad discount AND the rebate or is it one or the other?
  • nonnemachernonnemacher Member Posts: 98
    Basically you have everything correct. $1000 under sticker is what I would pay for the car BEFORE any other adjustments, like taxes, fees, rebates, trade-in value, etc.

    Also, you can combine DCX programs like college-grad and military bonuses wth the current rebate offer of $500.

    How to approach this... Go to the dealer prepared to complete the transaction if they meet your expectations on price and prepared to walk out if they don't. For most folks this is very difficult. I bought my Caliber over the phone. I came up with a "fair" set of numbers and told them I would buy the car if they agreed to these numbers.

    I went to KBB.COM and found the "good condition" trade-in value of my car first. Let's call that number X. I wanted to pay Y for the new Caliber (in your case a reasonable Y might be MSRP-1000). Essentially you are "haggling" over how close to Y - X the dealer is willing to come. In my case, they agreed to my numbers exactly, but not on the first try. The addition of fees and taxes, and the deduction for rebates and incentives should come after you have agreed on X and Y.

    As an example if you have a trade-in that is worth $2,500 (according to KBB, not you) and the new Caliber has an MSRP of $18,950, it would be fair to pay a difference of $15,450 (17,950-2,500). Taxes, rebates, pay-off, etc, should all be done after you settle on this number.

    In my experience buying cars, and I've bought too many according to my wife, this is the best way to do it. Lots of people do not understand the process and end up paying too much.

    That's why I said earlier that you need to be willing to leave if they do not meet reasonable expectations on price. If they are way off on the difference, you should tell them "It's a nice car and I want to buy it, but I cannot pay that much for it" and that you want your deposit back. This lets them know that you are a serious buyer, but only at the right price.

    If they say "When you ordered the car, you did not request this price," you can say that "You are correct, but I did not agree to pay MSRP, I only agreed to buy the car if I was satisfied with everything when it arrived at your dealership." You might also add "I did not know what others were paying for similar cars when I ordered mine."

    Treat them politely, honestly, and respectfully and they should treat you the same way.

    Tough questions.... Tough answers.... :)
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    OrangeRT, thanks for the advice. Those were helpful tips! My only question is that I am not trading my car in. So does that give me less leverage when negotiating a price? I am definitely going to try for the college grad discount.

    Thanks for the links, Neely, those were interesting articles. One of them got me confused. Does the LED flashlight come with the SXT or only the RT?

    This part disapointed me in the last article:

    More disappointing is the cheap plastic on the interior of the doors. I thought this kind of hard, dull grey plastic went out with the Chevy Cavalier. Also, the fit of the passenger-side air bag was decidedly wonky. By way of an excuse, Chrysler officials noted that these were early prototypes. But this kind of thing crops up in other Chrysler production vehicles -- as does the huge gap between the hood and front fender. These things need to change if the automaker is going to convince consumers that the Caliber is a vast step beyond the old Neon/SX 2.0.
  • trgbassguytrgbassguy Member Posts: 21
    Just a thought here but would like some feedback. Now would it be ok for me to go with a longer loan (so I can pay less a month) if I'm going to pay it off early? That way I can take the extra money (what would go on my payment) and save it in a bank so I can make the interest off of it? I'm not sure how loans work so any input is welcome.
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    Oops, I mean thank you nonnemacher for your advice!!!
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    The longer time period you take to repay your loan, the more money you will pay in interest payments. Unless you're on a tight budget, and the extra 50 or so dollars a month REALLY matter, I'd go with the shortest loan term you can afford. If you can afford it, go 36 or 48 months. At the VERY outside, 60 months. That 40 or 50 dollars a month will eventually save you hundreds and hundreds over the term of your loan. Or put off buying your car until you have a decent down payment, so you can borrow a lesser amount.
    Face it, not too many people throw extra money onto their bills if they find they have a few bucks left at the end of the month. They buy beer.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    OrangeRT AGAIN!!

    Yes he is right about the length of the loan, less is better. UNLESS you qualify and get 0% interest loan, usually whenever I get these I am limited to a term of 36 months though. The more down really does help!!!

    Unless you are talking about $100,000 or more, your interest rate is not very high. If you get more than a couple percent interest rate, let the rest of us know!!!!
    Example $5000 @ 3 perc. will be less than $200!

    Yea, I too have noticed the extra payment money does buy beer doesn't it?
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Hi Katie! Yes, it's me Again!

    I seem to be the only on this forum who has an R/T (some are on order). I don't find the interior to be cheap. What does that article expect from a vehicle of this price range, Mahogany wood and Cashmere carpet??

    Don't get too worried, if you checked out all the other cars similar to this one you would find similar interior material, everything is plastic nowadays!! I have owned more cars than you can ever imagine!!!

    The Flashlight is supposed to be on all Calibers I think. We have it - it's ok - it is an LED type light, nothing really spectacular here.

    Now the kicker!!! Those articles said the R/T was around $23000 WOW! I guess I stole mine at less than $20000. Our window sticker came in at $20,885. We leased it and still got it less than 20. Even with the extra cost paint!

    Does anyone else have there R/T yet?????
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    Oh I am glad that all Calibers come with the flashlight. It may not be heavy duty but it is something! I think it is super nifty. Another thing I think is cool is how the passenger sun visor slides back and forth. Thats neato.

    OrangeRT, you got a good deal on yours! I hope I do too!
  • pacermanpacerman Member Posts: 62
    Not yet, but keep talking you may convince me!!!!!! :D:D I am really curious to know what your gas mileage is going to be, keep us informed!! ;) Thanx for the updates!! :)
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Att Pacerman

    Hopefully if you get one you will like it!!!!

    Still staying at 25 mpg according to recpts. I have no major problems or issues with the car yet.
  • calibreathcalibreath Member Posts: 22
    The best leverage you can have, trade in or no trade in is to go to several dealers and let them compete against each other for your business and you will get the best deal possible in your area. You will never know if you are getting a fair deal unless you have several prices from different dealers. If you like a certain dealer, take your lowest price to them and tell them to beat it or at least match it.
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    Being from a smaller Northern Ontario (Canada) city, I rely on dealers' websites to let me know what's in stock. Of the 4 Dodge/Chrysler dealers located within a day's drive of here, only one website acknowledges that the Caliber even exists as a vehicle! And that dealer just indicates that they have a few in stock, but no other information is forthcoming.
    As the previous poster mentioned, playing dealers off amongst themselves is a good approach...except here, you have to figure on driving 600 kilometres round-trip to save a few hundred dollars.
    And again, DCX doesn't seem to have ANY incentives or rebates on "ordinary" vehicles here. Granted, if you want a gas-guzzler or a luxury SUV, you can save tens of thousands.
  • neely2005neely2005 Member Posts: 70
    Here is the Canadian Dodge Caliber Site. It might help you somewhat:

    http://www.get2knowcaliber.ca/
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    I've got that link already...thanks all the same.
    I'd just like the individual dealerships around here to update their inventories on their websites to reflect that they actually DO carry the Caliber...and perhaps a little about the specific vehicle on their lot, ie. what model and what it comes with.
    Most of the dealerships here know they have an edge over the consumer, because we don't have the option of simply walking to another Dodge dealership just across town.
    It's "my way or the highway" mostly.
  • lexan1965lexan1965 Member Posts: 118
    do u have a 4wd caliber? Is that why u only reach 25 mpg?
    I just hit 3300 miles on my caliber (2.0 fwd) and am getting 28 to 30 mpg.
  • beastieboy1976beastieboy1976 Member Posts: 1
    I just ordered the Sunburst STX, it is more like the Scion. Kind of a rust like orange, looks great with the orange seat inserts and dash.
  • caliberchiccaliberchic Member Posts: 402
    I just got a call on my ordered Caliber. The dealer says it now has a VIN number so it's in the process of being built. It's been 2 1/2 weeks since we ordered it.
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    A dealership today offered me the "Friends and Family" discount which is 1% above invoice.

    The problem is, I already put a deposit on a car somewhere else. I didn't sign anything saying I would buy from them so I don't think I am obligated. How do I get it back? What do I say?
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    OrangeRT here!

    find out what the 1% price is and then call the other dealer and see what his botom line is and compare the two, that will make your decision who is giving the best deal. If you get better with the 1% with same options tell the dealer with the deposit to match it - BUT BE PREPARED TO BUY IMMEDIATLEY if you do this!!!! They don't like to play games too many times.

    Like all the advice we all are giving you, THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU ACT!!! We have opinions and opinions ONLY!!! We are not going to be there to own or pay for YOUR car!
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    OrangeRT here!

    Yes, I do have an AWD Orange R/T!!! It rates factory 23-26. I am getting an honest 25 avg currently!!!
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    Oh, okay thank you! If the original dealer can't match the price, am I entitled to my deposit money back since I didn't sign anything to obligate myself?

    Basically the 2nd dealer offered me $1500 off the sticker (build it now price online) price and that includes the rebate. I think that is pretty good!
  • katiescaliberkatiescaliber Member Posts: 45
    For those of you who have your Calibers, do you have either DRLs or Fog lamps or both? If you do not get the DRLs, do you use your fog lamps as DRLs?

    I am wondering about the headlights in the Caliber.

    In my Camry they are on all the time. When I open the car door, they go off.

    Is the Caliber like this at all? With the headlights or fog lights?
  • sheldo1sheldo1 Member Posts: 64
    Honda Civic just changed to a chain with the new 2006 model. I don't think the guy is off base with his comment.
  • orangertorangert Member Posts: 41
    Chain in the CVT? Did not see that in my trade mag. Please respond
  • calibreathcalibreath Member Posts: 22
    I would never put down a deposit, unless the out the door price was agreed upon and in writing. :sick:
  • mandymusikamandymusika Member Posts: 42
    Hey guys,
    Was looking at hte mazda 3 sport (hatch) a while back and am now looking at the caliber. They both are around the same price range and the same mpg. there are the obvious differences that the caliber has (cooler, flashlight, ipod holder and compatibility etc)that the mazda doesn't but it seemst he mazda is better for pick up and go and just has better handling. Any opinions on one compared to the other?
    thanks.
  • blackcaliberblackcaliber Member Posts: 11
    Here is the best advice you could give her, and to the rest of us I am sure: "THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU ACT!!!!".
    There are a few steps to go through before even thinking about cutting a deal with the dealership:

    1)Find a car you like with a sticker price you CAN afford.
    2)Do some research on the car; internet, newspapers, magazines, etc.
    3)Go to the dealership to test drive one or two different trims.
    4)Find out about the price the dealership is paying for the car you want.
    5)Go to other dealerships to see how much they would sell it for. Ask for extra fees, gas in the tank, tire taxes, etc.
    6)Find out how much others are paying for a car similar to what you want.
    7)Make a low but reasonable offer... YOU get a good deal, THEY make some money...
    8)Stick to it!!
  • blackcaliberblackcaliber Member Posts: 11
    Anybody heard if they started to built the Caliber 1.8L, 5 speed yet? Someone from the industrie told me last week that they were expecting the 1.8L, 5 speed to get in Canada in 1-3 weeks. Is that possible?
  • pacermanpacerman Member Posts: 62
    Heres a question on a trade in. I have a 96 Neon ACR, in decent shape, I have an alpine deck, 6 disc changer, small alpine amp, and a small bazooka sub in the trunk. I also have the stock AM-FM radio I removed. Should I take my stuff out and replace the stock radio?Would they give me the same trade with stereo in or out???Its white, with 193Km or 120K miles...typical ACR package. Just wondering at this point...., I'm thinking its worth $3500 ca???
    Thanx
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    I think the only the very base Mazda3 is equal to the SXT, pricewise. If you started tarting up the extras, the Mazda would run you a bit more than the Caliber.
    THat being said, I still think the Mazda drivetrain and build quality might be a bit better than the Caliber. It's a more of a "fun to drive" car, and it handles really well.
    The Dodge has a few more "gee whiz!" features on it that are kind of innovative and should be the standard on new vehicles to come.
    All in all, it's six of one and half-a-dozen of another. A bit more quality for a bit more money...that's the story of life. Whether or not those intangible differences between the two models are worth the extra price premium - that's between you, your conscience, and your wallet.
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    Is it worth 3500??
    It's a ten year old small car. It's not a Honda or a Toyota. It's a domestic. It's got almost 200K on a 4-cylinder motor.
    I'd be surprised if you'd get much more than a grand or so for it on a trade-in. And I wouldn't pay 3500 for it in a private sale.(no offense intended)
  • wcottwcott Member Posts: 35
    "4)Find out about the price the dealership is paying for the car you want. "
    What's the best way to find this information out?
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