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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Good guess but no, it isn't a Pug.

    The styling seems to have a vaguely Pininfarina flavor. But the taillights sort of remind me of either an early Peugeot 504 or a generic GM sedan.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    You're right about the Pininfarina part, that should narrow it down.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,239
    Lancia Flavia, I think - mid sixties. This one appears to have been registered in early 1967.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    Yep, it's a 1965 Lancia Flavia Cabriolet.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,239
    Well, it's a Buick, and I am never sure about the variations or confident with the year, but I think it is a 1962 Wildcat.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    Is it an Invicta . 1962.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,755
    I think it might just be a hardtop with a white top :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    You're right Magnette, it's a '62 Wildcat, and for the record it is a Hardtop.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Chrysler Valiant Charger, from Australia, mid-70s I think.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    Yep, it's a '74.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    '54 Mercury Sun Valley, nice piece of brochure art.

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  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 270,654
    AMC Matador coupe... Guessing '74

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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Correct! It's the Mercury counterpart to the glass-roofed Ford Skyliner before that name was attached to a retractable hardtop. I imagine Sun Valley drivers must've baked in the summer!
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    Exactly right 74 Matador Coupe. One of the ugliest cars in a sad, sad, era.

    I never understood what happened to AMC styling in those years. Just a few years before, they'd had really beautiful cars - like this:

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    At one point in the late 60's I thought AMC might even stage a come-back
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    There are one or two of the Sun Valley Mercuries that show up at cruise ins around here (the first cruise in starts Friday--relief at last!!!).

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Those AMC coupes were supposed to be on a smaller chassis, but cash shortages and dumb management forced the larger and rather ungainly result. I've seen pictures of them on the compact chassis and they actually looked decent. You're right, the Javelins were good lookers in their time, but sales were hurt by AMC image as an economy car company and their financial situation.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Good call on the 62 Buick coupe. For some reason even though GM Fischer bodies were probably the tightest of the Big 3, GM convertibles always had loose, floppy looking convertible tops that tended to puff up in the wind compared to Ford and Mopar back then.
  • davethecarnutdavethecarnut Member Posts: 248
    AMC was doing pretty good in the late 60's. The AMX/Javelins, Rebel Machines and the Scramblers (SC Ramblers) were pretty hot cars. It was the Matador [non-permissible content removed] Pacer/Gremlin era that did them in, IMO.
  • dougb10dougb10 Member Posts: 185
    That Mercury Sun Valley brings back memories from 50 years ago for me.

    I was in college in the late 50's (yeah, I'm 70 now, so put the calculators away)

    I had a 1954 Monarch Sun Valley (the Canadian equivalent of the Mercury).

    It was white with a green top....the glass roof had a zip-in fabric liner to shade things if it got too hot inside. This car was very cool...with duals and a great sound that had all the power stuff too....including windows and seat.

    If you could not get "lucky" in this car....you must have looked like Quasimodo!

    Those were the days my friend!

    Doug
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    If you could not get "lucky" in this car....you must have looked like Quasimodo!

    Hmm. The only time I ever actually tried to get lucky in a car, I came out looking and feeling like Quasimodo. Then again, it was a Fiat 850. . .

    Let the games resume!
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,239
    That's a Muntz - circa 1949/53. I think they built about 25, and they were mostly powered by contemporary Cadillac V8s..
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,117
    I think if they had thrown a few extra bucks into the Matador coupe and sprung for hidden headlights, it would have made a world of difference. Either have them hidden in the grille, or pop up above it, but getting rid of those awful bug-eyed headlights and their associated bulges would have cleaned up the car immensely.

    One nifty feature those Matador coupes had was roll-down rear windows. With a/c becoming so popular, most people probably didn't care anymore, but it was still a thoughtful touch, and one becoming increasingly rare in 2-door cars.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 270,654
    The weird thing about the Matador coupe is that it looks nothing like the Matador sedan.. It's like they gave the same name to two completely different cars...

    Now that I think about it.. Hyundai is doing the same thing with the name Genesis... :surprise:

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    My info places the total number of Muntz Jets closer to 400. The first few were Cadillac powered, but Lincoln V8s propelled the rest.

    Shame about that two-piece windshield. . .
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Aston Martin DB2/4 Mk III, I believe.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,625
    Well as berri mentioned about 10 posts back, the coupes were supposed to be on a smaller chassis but it was second-guessed. This is not the first time that AMC did this. The original concept for what became the Marlin was on the American chassis (called the Tarpon) and looked really good. The idiot CEO, Roy Abernathy, nixed that idea because you couldn't put a V-8 in it, and forced it onto the larger Classic chassis. Everyone knows the result, both visually and financially. Ironically, within a couple of years they were putting their new V-8, which came in displacements up to 390 ci, in the American. If they had stuck with the original plan, the Tarpon/Marlin would have been a pretty credible competitor to the Plymouth Barracuda which, although not a blockbuster like the Mustang, had a fair amount of success. This decision was only one of many by Abernathy which supported a diagnosis of recto-cranial inversion and, I think, contributed greatly to AMC's downfall.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep a Aston Martin DB2/4 (dunno about the Mark III). It belongs to Bernie Madoff, or did, and there's a NY Times article saying that it's a 1964.

    So the year is in dispute.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,755
    I wonder if falsifying the year somehow benefits the crook and/or his accomplices.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I think it's just a simple fact checking error. Either the paper is wrong or they've confiscated so much stuff, they're rushing to catalog it for sale and transposed some numbers.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I wonder if falsifying the year somehow benefits the crook and/or his accomplices.

    I would guess that a 1964 DB5 would be worth more than a 1954 DB2/4.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    lol, yep. It would cost a fortune to find all the tooling or recreate it from scratch.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,755
    I am sure it is just a typo...but with Bernie and his minions, you never know ;)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,239
    Fiat Barchetta - circa 2002 onwards. They have sold this here, but sadly not RHD, so it has never been a big seller. It's a nice little car, in the price bracket that years ago would have been the Spitfire or Midget/Sprite, slightly cheaper than an MX-5.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    Magnette is correct it's an '05 Fiat Barchetta.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    1951 Oldsmobile Super 88 Deluxe, 1950 Studebaker. 1951 or 52 Pontiac

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,117
    Don't forget the creme car, which I think is a '49 DeSoto. Can't tell which series, but I'm guessing a Custom, with the big whitewalls. Isn't the black car a '49-50 Chevy?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    How 'bout a 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook. That cream car is a DeSoto.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think you may be right about that Plymouth. I'm not sure the last car is a Pontiac because I thought they all had that streamliner chrome decorating the middle of the hood back then? Maybe an Oldsmobile instead?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    You're right. The 53 or 54 Pontiac had that cross piece on the grill similar to the picture IIRC. The crosspiece is what I keyed on. It's an open elongated oval. What cars had that? The emblem with the 12-18 inch chrome line through it looks like Pontiac rather than Oldsmobile...

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
    A larger version of that photo reveals that the black car on the extreme right is definitely not a Poncho. link. It looks like a '50 or '51 Chevy to me, the Olds had different headlight surrouds.

    My Grandpa owned an Olds similar to the 88 in the pic, not sure if it was the same year.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,682
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,747
    The black car is a Chev. Andre1969 ID'ed it as a 49 or 50.

    The car under the ARVIN sign is the one I thought was a Pontiac. But it's not.

    Can you post a link to the larger picture?

    That last car has an unusual upper grill bar which made me think it was a Pontiac. But maybe it's a Chrysler product?

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