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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • vanstealthvanstealth Member Posts: 1
    I'm evaluating a lease offer on a 2013 A4 Premium Plus. How do these numbers look and any word if Audi is doing the 2012 Summer of Audi Event?

    Payment Details

    Term
    36
    Base Payment
    578.13
    Total Payment w/ tax
    624.38
    Purchase Option
    26,745.80
    MSRP
    45,510.00
    Selling Price
    43,056.08
    Est. Miles Per Year
    12,000
    Disposition Fee
    350.00
    Excess Mileage Charge
    0.25

    Payment Details

    Term
    36
    Base Payment
    602.56
    Total Payment w/ tax
    650.76
    Purchase Option
    25,835.60
    MSRP
    45,510.00
    Selling Price
    43,056.08
    Est. Miles Per Year
    15,000
    Disposition Fee
    350.00
    Excess Mileage Charge
    0.25

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I've asked for the APR/money factor used from the dealer.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I certainly do humphreye. Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a new 2013 allroad Premium or Premium Plus with 15,000 miles per year are .00150 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • swamivswamiv Member Posts: 6
    Hello Car_man - do you have the residual/MF for a 2013 A4 Prestige? 15/12/10k miles.

    Thanks in advance!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Certainly swamiv. Audi Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Prestige with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00152 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher. The 10k residual would be 3% higher.

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  • dinglenutz1223dinglenutz1223 Member Posts: 4
    edited July 2012
    Hi all,

    I got back from a dealership in NJ, and this is what they offered me. This is for a 2012 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus w/ B & O stereo for 15K miles / year.

    MSRP : $41,450
    Selling price : $38,008 (This is $1000 under invoice as he showed me.)
    My trade-in value : $13,500 ( I was hoping for $14,500 as I checked Edmunds, NADA, and KBB for the values, and $14,500 was the supposed market value for my car)
    Residual Value : 52%
    Money factor : .00026
    Registration : $396
    Bank fee : $695
    Doc fee : $349
    Tax : $332.58 (He said this is low because of my trade-in. this includes a $7.50 tire tax)
    My monthly payment would be $153.50 for 36 months.

    All in all, I was getting $1000 less on my trade-in than I was hoping for. And, I was hoping to knock the price of the MSRP down to $4000, rather than $3400. I was hoping for a monthly payment for $100-125, 125 being the max. I was over that amount, so I asked them to throw in Audi Care for the $153 a month. They balked, and I left the dealership.

    Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Also, I'm thinking of reducing my miles to 12K miles, which would probably help my cause. I figure I might not need 15K miles anymore, as I did a lot of driving over the past 2 years, but I foresee less driving so I may not need 15K miles / year.
  • bartleby2bartleby2 Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know the July residual and money factor for a 2013 Allroad Premium Plus or Prestige? The dealer is pushing the 42 month lease at 10k per year which would work for me. Thanks in advance.
  • jimmy62jimmy62 Member Posts: 6
    While shopping for a new A4 in Dallas the salaman said they would sell any 2012 for invoice. In San Antonio, where the had no 2012s, the offer was $550 over invoice.
  • miggsv17miggsv17 Member Posts: 3
    Hi Car_Man

    I just started shopping around for a 2013 audi A4 premium plus monsoon/blk with and without navigation and was quoted the following:

    Residual/MF 36 mo/12K --> 58% /.00136 (im hoping this is what matches your july rates

    For the Monsoon/blk with Premium Plus (no Nav)
    MSRP $40,660
    Our Selling Price $39,060

    For the Monsoon/black
    MSRP $44,370
    Our Selling Price $42,870

    I know these are above invoice, i was wondering if anyone had a good idea what to shoot for?

    edmunds TMV says:

    Total Price (navigation)
    Inv/MSRP/TMV $40,258/$43,220/$41,285

    Total Price (no navigation)
    Inv/MSRP/TMV $37,421/ $40,170 /$38,374

    im pretty sure i matched the invoices exactly to my build but the MSRPs are off.... What do you think a fair starting price for negotiating? Start at invoice and pay up to the TMV price?

    Also summer of audi will pay 1st months payment. I dont believe i qualify for any other incentives.
  • thedjmthedjm Member Posts: 2
    So I was checking my audifs.com account page the other day and saw that the remainder of my lease term and contract amount was within my grasp to payoff. I also noticed this line item on the payoff page for a good sized chunk of the total:

    Rebate Unearned Rent Charge:
    'A portion of each of your scheduled payments is a rental charge. Paying off your lease early entitles you to receive a rebate for this amount'

    Thinking this meant what it said, I contacted Audi and asked what my actual payoff would be, expecting it to be the "Scheduled payments not yet due" MINUS the "Rebate Unearned Rent Charge", which is essentially the finance charge on the term of the lease contract.

    Come to find out, that doesn't mean what it says. What "Rebate Unearned Rent Charge" actually means, is:
    'A portion of each of your scheduled payments is a rental charge. Converting your lease to a full purchase of the vehicle entitles you to receive a rebate for this amount'

    Wondering of I just got some bunk info from the CSR on the other end of the line, I thought I'd run this past everyone here and see if they have any info before I call them back again and ask to talk to someone who can explain why the web page says what it does.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,751
    I think their interpretation is correct... By "payoff", they mean the payoff for buying the car, not for paying off the rest of your lease payments...

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  • thedjmthedjm Member Posts: 2
    That may be the case. Unfortunate that one can do a "one payment" lease and save the finance charges, but cannot prepay mid-term. This is of course different than a purchase where one can prepay at any point in the loan and forgo the remaining interest payments.
  • geo22201geo22201 Member Posts: 12
    Car_Guy,

    I just leased a 2013 A4 Premium Plus Quattro and want to see if the deal was reasonable:

    Traded-in (Dealer Paid off Net -$0.00) 2009 BMW 328i Sedan

    $45,760.00 – Sticker
    $43,067.00 – Lease Price

    Plus:

    $ 1,411.91 – Taxes
    $ 93.50 – Registration
    $ 399.00 – Doc Fee
    $ 695.00 – Bank Fee
    $ 800.00 – Audi Care

    Less:

    $ 1,500.00 Downpayment (including 1st month pmt of $ 669.99 and $ 803.01 Cap Cost Red.)

    $ 45,635.40 Adjusted Cap Cost

    Money Factor - .00254
    Residual - 55%
    Mileage Limit: 12,000/year
    42 Month lease @ 669.99

    What do you think?
  • enzombenzomb Member Posts: 5
    Hi Carman,
    Would you know the current 36-month money factor and residual value for the 2012 A4 Premium FWD sedan? I don't think I'll need more than 10K or 12K miles/ year.
    Thanks!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi bartleby2. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 42-month lease of a 2012 allroad Premium Plus with 10,000 miles per year are .00150 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an allroad Prestige are .00150 and 52%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi geo22201. I don't have a problem with this car's selling price but Wow the money factor that you were quoted is really high. If your credit is in good shape, you should be able to get a factor that's practically half that...OK, not half .00136 but pretty darn close. Make sure to get that straightened out and you should be in good shape.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi enzomb. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium FWD with 12,000 mies per year are .00014 and 51%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • nurse_salsanurse_salsa Member Posts: 1
    Hi Carman,

    Do you have the July MF/residual on a 2013 A4 Quattro premium plus for 36 month lease with 12k and 15k miles?

    Thanks!
  • geo22201geo22201 Member Posts: 12
    How do you get this straightened out with the deal being done already? Through Audi? Should I get another lease company to buy out the lease?
  • traidedtraided Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2012
    I was offered this lease package for a 2013 audi a4 cvt 2.0 premium non-nav
    I have attached a picture of the print out they gave me with the details. I don't have the
    best credit 615. Can someone look at the numbers and tell me if it's a good or decent offer.
    Thanks
    Here is a link
    link title
  • carlady13carlady13 Member Posts: 1
    What is the current Money Factor & Residual % for 2012 328i Sedan, 36mo's, 10k miles?
    Also any dealer money or incentives? for July August or September? How about 2013 model?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi nurse_salsa. Sorry for the delay in my response, I was away on vacation. Here's the information that you're looking for.

    Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00136 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey geo22201. Unfortunately, If you have already signed your lease and physically driven off in your car there isn't much that you can do to change the terms of your deal at this point. You'll have to chalk this up as a lesson learned and enjoy your car. Don't let the fact that your interest rate is a little high ruin the wonderful experience of driving a new car for you.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi carlady13. This particular discussion is for consumers to talk about leasing an Audi A4. Please post any questions that you have about leasing a 3-Series over in the BMW 3-Series Lease Questions discussion.

    Thanks.

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  • wlciiiwlciii Member Posts: 2
    Any latest info on september rates for an A4 quattro premium plus for 36 months and 10K a year?
  • mojotwinsmojotwins Member Posts: 1
    Mr Carman,
    Hello My first visit into the dealer for numbers on a 2013 quatro premium plus Msrp$40,085.00 selling price is $38999.00. I am about $500 upside down on my trade. On a 48mnth lease 12k year their numbers $3760 down $499month. I have yet to get the residual, money factor etc.. How does this look and any advice moving forward would be appreciated.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi wlciii. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus with quattro and 10,000 miles per year are .00042 and 54%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi mojotwins. This car has a spread of around $2,700 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. You were quoted a discount of only a little over $1,000 on this car. I personally would want a larger discount than that. Even with the $500 in negative equity that you have, you're still looking at a $1,500 or so discount. If I was in the market for this car right now in an area that has a decent level of competition, I personally would shoot for a selling price more along the lines of $500 over invoice.

    Once you arrive at a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer calculate your car's monthly payment using Audi Financial Services current 48-month buy rate lease money factor of .00192. You would be better off going with a 39 or a 42-month lease of this car because the money factor is slightly lower at .00136.

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  • backroadbackroad Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2012
    Hi car man, the money factor noted in your messages #4121 and #4126 for 2013 A4 sedan pplus seem very different. Was there a recent change and one is for August? Or is it related to something different about the vehicles in question? Thanks!
  • ibush01ibush01 Member Posts: 6
    Hi Car_man -- do you have August rates available for the 2013 A4 Quattro Premium Plus? (And do your rates detail high-mileage leases, such as 18-20k?)

    Thanks! These were very helpful three years ago -- and now I'm ready to trade in my '10 A4 for a new one.

    -- Ian
  • wckempfwckempf Member Posts: 4
    I kicked the 2013 A4 allroad tires yesterday and am more confused about my next car lease. Currently driving a leased 2009 335i sedan and since my wife moved from a 2004 allroad to a 2011 GTI, I find us needing something slightly bigger that can go to Tahoe a few times a winter. Drove the 2013 allroad and 2012 Evoque yesterday. Looking forward to drive the X1 xDrive28i later this week. I really liked the allroad and felt it had more power than I expected. Same engine as our GTI but much smoother and quieter delivery in the allroad. I love the design of the Evoque but it's a major change from the 335i. It doesn't seem like the allroads are moving off the lots in the Bay Area. Anybody finding dealers ready to deal? What kind of leases are people getting?
  • glyrasglyras Member Posts: 8
    Hi Car Man,

    Can you please provide me with the lease terms for a 2013 Allroad. 3 years, 12K per year.

    Thx.
  • mtotka23mtotka23 Member Posts: 3
    I just worked out a deal for $448.71 a month on a 2013 A4 with lighting and convenience packages with no out of pocket. All I would be putting down is the net of my trade which is $2900. I'm wondering if this is a good deal or if I could do any better. This is for 42 months and 15,000/month. It's in Florida and sales tax is 6%.
  • mtotka23mtotka23 Member Posts: 3
    *15,000/year
  • mtotka23mtotka23 Member Posts: 3
    Money Factor on this lease is .001300, residual is 54%
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi backroad. Audi Financial Services' July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus with quattro and 10,000 miles per year are .00136 and 59%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Yes I do Ian. Audi Financial Services' August buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan 2.0T Premium Plus quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00136 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that AFS publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than that you have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease-signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi glyras. Audi Financial Services' August buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 allroad Premium or Premium Plus with 12,000 miles per year are .00150 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • look0947look0947 Member Posts: 2
    when talking about top tier credit as it pertains to Audi leases what is it? My FICO is 695 and im trying to figure out what a 15k mile 36 - 42 month lease on a 2013 A4 premium plus quattro would cost? What is the money factor for 2nd tier credit?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi look0947. I don't know what the specific score cutoff for Audi's "A" credit tier is, but I suspect that 695 is probably good enough to qualify for it. If you do fall in the "B" tier then the rates would be .00030 higher than A.

    Audi Financial Services' August buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00136 and 56%, respectively.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease, which in my opinion is the way to go on this model, would be .00136 and 54%.

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  • look0947look0947 Member Posts: 2
    Thank you very much!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    You're very welcome, look0947.

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  • nwsportsreportnwsportsreport Member Posts: 7
    Hello,
    I went to check out the Summer of Audi Sales Event lease special a few days ago and was quoted the following. I was wondering if you could let me know if I'm getting a good deal.

    - Premium Plus with Standard Paint options
    - Navigation Pkg
    - Sport Pkg
    - Bang & Olufsen
    - Advanced Key
    - Exhaust Tips
    - 15K/year
    - 56% Residual
    - 0.00160 MF
    - $45,035 MSRP
    - $43,000 Asking Price

    - $2,000 Down payment
    - $0 Security Deposit
    - First Month Payment Waived
    - $425 Reg Fee
    - $800 Doc Fee

    Total: $4,100 Total at Signing
    Monthly: $593/month

    Also, when the quote shows Government Taxes, what am I paying for?

    Thank you
  • ita65ita65 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2012
    A little to much I think...
    Here is my deal: 2013 A4 Prem Plus Quattro
    I'm in S. Calif.

    MSRP $45250
    Navigation Pkg
    - Sport Pkg
    - Bang & Olufsen
    - Advanced Key
    - Exhaust Tips

    + Audicare $800
    12k miles yr
    36 months

    Asking price 43369
    $509 + tax $44 = $553 mo. x 36 months
    Down payment $1935
    My son has been driving the car for 3 weeks now...
    Your MSRP is almost the same as mine but your mileage is $15k..
    from 12k to 15k on a 36mo. lease the difference should be only about $20 mo.
    plus they are asking you $4100 down... I think you are about $2500 off...
  • thairsthairs Member Posts: 12
    Hello everyone, new here and I was quoted this amount for a 2013 Audi A4 Premium Plus:

    2013 Audi A4 Premium Plus
    Phantom Black
    -Navi pkg
    -Sport pkg
    -Advanced key
    -Exhaust tips
    -12k miles a year

    MSRP: $44520
    Initial cap cost: $42,380
    LEV %: 58.00%
    Term: 36 months
    Money factor: .00165
    Cash down: $2,000
    Security Deposit: 0
    Amount due at start: $2535
    Monthly: 36mon x $595.11

    Does this look like a good deal?
  • nwsportsreportnwsportsreport Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for sharing. I went back to re-negotiate and thought I got a great deal. Put down a hold deposit $800, but now the dealer has come back and said they made an "error." If I didn't sign any paperwork, am I allowed to collect my deposit and void the deal?
  • foffofoffo Member Posts: 24
    I think you should be able to get your money back as long as you did not sign any paperwork.
  • cal2000cal2000 Member Posts: 10
    Hi Car Man,
    Can you please provide me with MF/Residuals for following options?
    - 36 months 12k miles/yr.
    - 36 months 10k miles/yr.
    - 39 months 12k miles/yr.
    - 36 months 10k miles/yr.
    Thank you so much for your help in advance!
  • timbo56timbo56 Member Posts: 2
    Hi Car Man, I was in looking at a 2013 A4 Premium Plus Quattro yesterday, with an MSRP of $40,560 and a price of $38,060. The price seemed very competitive, but I'm concerned that I'm getting an inflated money factor.

    The money factor I was quoted for a 42 month lease with 15K per year was .00176 (you've confirmed .00136 in various posts). I would qualify for top tier credit. Is this money factor inflated?

    The residual quoted was 52%. Please confirm. Thanks in advance!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi cal2000. Through September 4th, Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00136 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00136 and 56%.

    If you were to lease with only 10,000 miles per year, this car's residual values would be 1% higher.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi timbo56. The .00136 money factor is available on this car for top credit tier customers who lease for up to 39 months through September 4th. In my opinion, the 39 month term is probably the best way to go on this vehicle right now. The factor for a 42-month lease might be slightly higher, so just go with the 39-month term.

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