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and ask yer honey if 2.5 inches MORE is a big deal..
hehehee
- Tim
(as for re-search...I don't wanna know a damn
thing....we are on a need to know basis....and I
don't need to know that!)
And now for the benefit of those that came here to discuss the Tundra vs the Big 3, let's continue with this subject. Thanks for your participation.
;-)
Pocahontas,
Edmunds.com/Host
The Hd's are 2" higher and don't have the nose dive effect...
I kinda like the dive effect cuz when loaded with 3500 lbs...it makes it level instead of sagging..
- Tim
as for level-headed...i am pretty level headed...'cept when folks like you be makin' bone-headed comments that just make no sense. if you'd make some sense when you post...things would be so much better.
and as for your "name-calling" accusations, wasn't it you who started the whole batman, robin, etc...deal?
bco
ps...tundradude - if you're coming to sc and hoping for 80 degree weather this weekend...don't get your hopes too high. topped out at 50 out on the golf course today.
They say a Ram one ton can't tow (article where Dodge got sued), we point out hitch, 45mph towing, 2000# limits.
Say the Silverado rusts, we show examples of Tundra's rusting.
What do you have next?? When will you guys admit the Silverado is a good truck?? I think I've heard just about all the Chevy guys say Toyota isn't bad, but you Tundra guys think your [non-permissible content removed] don't stink. Talk about blind brand loyality...
They cant haul more than 2000 lbs
They cant haul that 2000lbs quicker than 45mph
Aint never heard of no "full size" one that was restricted like that now. Them ones be more restricted than them big3 little ones! What this be tellin ya on them ones now? What say too this one? Good luck on this one now!
Justtheone, nowhere in the Tundra manual does it say you can't tow over 2000 lbs, and there's no mention of 45 mph max either, so get your act together. Bama is right, you are a liar.
I had to take my son to a friends B-day party tonight (lazer tag) - I spent 2 hours in the parking lot waiting. The parking lot was only about 1/2 full - and some guy in a 2x4 Tundra decided instead of backing out of his parking place he would just drive forward through the space in front of him -big mistake- the lot has concrete dividers between the rows - you know the thing that stops your tire when you park. Somehow this guy ended up with one front tire in front of the tire stop and one tire behind it. He was stuck. He could not go forward - could not back up. He had one rear tire smoking - Do you think this guy would have wanted a locking rear end. The pure N-bare-[non-permissible content removed]-ment he suffered was far more that the $250 I paid for the locking differential. Can you imagine being stuck in a concrete parking lot!! A few good samaritans (myself included) helped set him free.
Pros: Super strong engine and acceleration, Trouble free service, smooth and quiet ride, solid braking, 4 door convenience, size is more manageable on narrow city streets, super cupholders and console setup, affordable cd/cassette combo, reasonably comfortable seats(Dodge is better, Ford is much worse to me, can't comment on Chevy). Ride height and stance on a 2wd w/ bigger tires closely resembles a 4wd, which I find better looking than "lowrider" pickups.
Cons: Door indents don't hold door open on even slight inclines(a real shin buster), Truck needs 4 wheel ABS to avoid locking up powerful front brakes, seat needs another 2" of travel for my legs, parking brake intrudes on left leg room, springs are a little too soft, resulting in excess body roll. Stereo speakers are inferior, but are an easy $100 upgrade. Rear seat room is compromised by smaller size, but I haven't had a passenger back there yet, so I don't really care. I use it for storage only. Paint seems to chip too easily, transmission shifts to a high gear too early at low speeds. Seats could be more supportive and larger. Arm rests on bucket seats are ridiculously short.
Overall, I can't pick a better truck for my purposes, especially when you factor in stellar resale and reliability. It's nice to just put gas in and drive, and not have to worry about various defects.
Too much Maui Wowey(sp)? Ooops, a personal attack.
I'd hate to think that troublesome Silverado is finally putting you over the edge!
Bouncer? Dang, not another macho Marine who wants to beat everybody up like your 'ole bud, Zbad. LOL!!!
"Enough with the personal attacks, Kyle! How about
you stop your name calling and flaming posts, so we can talk about the trucks without being attacked by you!"
HUH???
anyways, maybe you can start us off by learning how to spell justtheone's name right...eh?
incidentally, if you consider factual posts about a truck personal...you just might be too close to it, rob.
bco
not sure if we want to ruin the exceptional dialogue in this thread by tainting it with real-life evaluations of our own trucks.
bco
Towing: In my opinion, towing is serious business
because it increases risk to the passengers and
other motorists.Power (hp and torque), wheelbase,
braking, hitch capacities, load leveling, etc are
all important elements. A deficiency in any one
area can spell disaster or at least disappointment. If I planned on towing over 2500lbs, I would definitely be concerned about using the Sequoia. Why? 1) My previous 4.7l truck felt somewhat underpowered pulling an empty 3500lb trailer over slopes. It certainly was sufficient and safe, but lacking nevertheless. 2) Both the 1997 truck I owned and the 2000 Suburban I owned said nothing about not exceeding 45mph while towing. I think this restriction may be more than simple legal jargon to limit Toyota liability -- if Toyota doesn't feel comfortable with their vehicle towing over 45mph, what does this say? I don't know with full confidence what this restriction means, but it would concern me because other similar tow vehicles don't have the same disclaimer. Plus, I can't imagine not driving over 45mph on highways and interstates -- I can hear the honks already. It seems for those who want to tow, that some clarification on the 45mph limit, and real world Sequoia towing experiences would be helpful.
Good luck on this one now!
I am surprised that Toyota recommends these above
2000 pounds. In my mind, if Toyota says the
vehicle can tow X pounds, it should be able to tow
X pounds without adding "optional equipment."
Otherwise, Toyota should state that additional
equipment is required. To the best of my
knowledge, other manufacturers will tell you
exactly that -- that something else might be needed to reach maximum towing capacity.
As for trailer brakes, sure, they are very
helpful, but they are really completely irrelevant
when it comes to listing maximum towing ability.
I, for one, would be very upset with Toyota and my
dealer if I had to return the vehicle to the
dealer, waste a day, and pay anything additional
for optional sway bars.
We were reading the owner's manual of our new
Sequoia 2wd Limited, and were surprised to read
1)Towing not recommended until after 2000 mile
break-in period
2)When towing "do not exceed 45mph."
3)sway control device necessary for towing over
2000 pounds
None of these issues were mentioned by our dealer,
who knew that we were buying the Sequoia as a tow
vehicle for appx. 5000# horse-trailer.
Anybody talked to Toyota about these issues?
And here be one who be ownin that tundra had too say too that one above:
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec '00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Cant them folks who own them tundras on this here forum even read? Them ones be quick too shout "liar", cuz that truth be stingin em hardest! Facts is facts now! Good luck on this one now!
1) cant exceed 45 mph when haulin
2) require control devices for 2000 pound hauls
These are simple truths, comin from that factory on em. Why cant them folks just be admittin that truth, as stated in them ownin manuals now? Them ones with them sequoria ones be steamin mad bout these facts, yet them folks here be attackin the one who be pointin that truth out too em! Guessin we know which folks had "planned" on workin em now! Good luck on this one now!
So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They did not want a real full-size truck that is why they got a Tundra.
Even so - lets's get to the facts. Libby says that the Tundra cannot tow over 45mph. What?
http://www.trailerlife.com/test/0002tundra.cfm
They were impressed with the towing ability of the
Tundra.
Quotes:
"But we especially liked the power of the Tundra's 4.7-liter V-8. Combined with the four-speed automatic transmission with overdrive, this powertrain did not disappoint. And we pushed it hard. With the 6,300-pound Tahoe behind us, kissing the Tundra's 7,100-pound tow rating, we went from sea-level to 9,000 feet through desert heat in late summer and the Tundra never so much as hiccuped."
Libby - you seem to think that by posting your lies repetitively - you lend them more credence.
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec
'00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Guessin anybody with them tells that be stingin ya must be strechin that truth now? Yuppie logic: the twistin of that truth too be makin em feel better bout fad chasin. Good luck on this one now!
Good luck on this one now!
The facts are: The Tundra will tow up to its 7200 lb maximum by just adding a tow hitch. On the Chevy - you must upgrade the springs and add a transmission cooler to tow more than 5000 lbs. The Chevy loyalists are trying to evade this simple fact - the Tundra is a better 1/2 ton tow vehicle.
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Seek that truth on em, listen too them factory hints, get ya a big3 one if ya got the need too work em. If just fad chasin, pull the wool, and chase that shine. Good luck on this one now!
give you some facts on Ford & Chevy now. The Chevy
has a light frame that they keep having to add
braces to, so they can stiffen it up. Plus the new
Silverado has exploding rear ends. The F-150 has a
frame that is not much thicker then a toothpick and
it has a overly complex sohc V-8. Yes the Ram is
not a perfect truck some do have transmission
problems that I have heard of, but at least they
have a good frame under them.
So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They
did not want a real full-size truck that is why
they got a Tundra.
Hey Justtheone just because you do not like the tundra that is no reason to put down someone else.
If you do not like the tundra then do not buy one.
It is plain a simple Justtheone the Tundra is not for you but just because your worn out old Chevy is rusting away do not put any other trucks down.
By the way Justtheone that Tundra could pull your 52 Chevy around with ease. Go buy you a new truck or do you have to keep driving the 52 Chevy because you are not smart enough to buy a new truck. Judging by your post you need to return to school & please quit lieing.
1) Tundra aint full size (truckin magazine,others)
2) No factory hitch on limited (edmunds,kbb)
3) Haul limitations (factory ownin manual)
All these truths listed above must be twisted cuz these facts be stingin them wool pullers. Keep twistin that truth yuppies, but that truth has that way of gettin out anyways. Good luck on this one now!
kinda like the water torture...drop after drop..after drop...of the same thing until they crack and go nuts!
Keep up the good work...on this one now!
- Tim
"I would tend to agree with you about the speed at
which the manufactures tell you that one should
tow. I own a SUV different from the Seq and in the
safety information states that when towing, it is
safest to not exceed 45mph.
I have been taught that the faster you tow in any
vehicle, the faster things happen..."