Car Commercials, the good, the bad, and the annoying!

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I wouldn't refuse a free TL-S with SH-AWD if I can get a body color aftermarket grille. :D

    Prior to that I would have chosen an RL, they cost about the same as a used TL anyway.

    That beak needed to be killed with fire.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Well for free, I can't think of anyone who would pass up a loaded one for free ;)

    RL seems to be an interesting used deal, but new it is insane.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,543
    well, they could pull that off quicker because the front end (and the rear, they changed that too to get rid of the squinty eye taillights) because the design was already done for IIRC a SAAB version? Hope I am not mixing up the models, but I think that is the one that was going to have a cousin that was aborted late!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    While watching F1 race from Montreal, saw a commercial of a Corvette doing stupid sliding, driving on desert lake bed, dust all around. Then, guy gets out and holds bottle of some kind of car cleaner and starts applying to car with cloth.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Good memory.

    Subaru was getting divorced from GM, meanwhile the Saabeca had already been developed.

    All we saw were some grainy cell phones pics, but the rear especially was absolutely identical, taillights and all.

    The more significant change was the move from the EZ30 to the EZ36 boxer engine, but it was too little too late - the vehicle was simply too small for a 3-row crossover. I think GM got the size "just right" with the Lambdas.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,543
    funny, but I think the Tribeca, XC 90, etc. are the right size, and the Lamda ones are oversized beasts with huge hoods.

    then again, I don't tend to have normal tastes in cars!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    IIRC, the lamdas are only 5 inches shorter than a Suburban. :surprise:
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    funny, but I think the Tribeca, XC 90, etc. are the right size, and the Lamda ones are oversized beasts with huge hoods.

    But neither is very good for 3rd row passengers - why bother if only little ones can sit back there.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I test drove a Saturn Outlook and backed up on a curb. It had no backup cam and you simply cannot see anything at all behind you. Blind spots were awful.

    When Saturn folded they basically gave them away (I think incentives peaked at $7000 cash back) so it was a strong value.

    You guys are right, though, it's big on the outside and small on the inside. I wanted the opposite.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Now I test drove an Acadia recently and didn't find it big at all. Then again I'm comparing it against the Explorer and CX-9.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Which one did you like the most? I'm digging the looks of the new Explorer but it's kinda tight inside for the profile. The CX-9 is still my fave if I was buying tho, it's just so open and airy inside.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I have a love/hate relationship with Mazda.

    I also test drove the CX9. In the driver's seat, your right knee rubs up against some (unnecessary) center console trim. I could not get comfortable. I was bummed because the price was far better than the Lambdas, at least until the $7k incentive arrived.

    Funny thing is my MX-5 has an annoying protrusion on my left knee, fixed for 2009, but then they added that silly grin face. Ugh.

    I modified the dead pedal a bit to get around it. Easy enough, but Mazda needs to spend more time actually sitting in the cars during the design stage.

    Zoom Zoom.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    We're going with the Explorer. Just have to set aside an afternoon to go order it.

    What I disliked about the Acadia was that when my wife adjusted the seat so she could reach the pedals, her knees were about an inch away fromm the lower dash - didn't seem safe to me. Also, it's pricey.

    I didn't care for the interior of the CX-9. It seemed dated especially compared with the Explorer. I'm not a fan of gated automatics and the switchgear felt low rent to me. Lastly the grin annoys me.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You don't want to wait for the EcoBoost model? Just curious.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    No - we want the AWD and the Ecoboost will only be available with FWD.

    Here in New England the AWD is worth it - we ski so for that reason alone my wife wants it. We've done fine with just FWD in the past with snow tires but wife wants the AWD. Who am I to argue??
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Cool, early congrats if you end up with one. The Explorer has been pretty popular, Ford did a great job on it. :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I didn't realize that. The EcoBoost tech has done well, so that's too bad.

    Indeed, let the wife get what she wants.

    Happy wife, happy life!
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    You know what I find with Mazda recently? You can get a comparable 6 for less than a Sonata. Go play at Fitzmall. Puzzling to me. I like the Sonata but I'd take the 6 in a minute!
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I bump my head getting in to the back seat.

    We used to own a 626 V6/5 speed manual. It was one of the few sedans you could get back then with a manual that was loaded up (leather, sunroof, etc).
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Buick has the best commercials for ordinary, everyday mature adults that show their vehicles in settings that we can relate to.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited June 2011
    Yeah but that sounds like elevator music.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Looking at the image Buick has honed over the past 40 years or so, sounds about right - not necessarily good, though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think the best ads are witty and humorous.

    On one extreme you have the Dodge ads where the Hemi guys do burnouts, i.e. totally in your face.

    On the other you have the Buick ads where the trunks are open in the Golf course parking lot. Very subtle, but too often forgettable.

    I'd aim somewhere between the two, make it funny, but intelligent humor. Voila. The perfect car ad.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,389
    edited June 2011
    Exactly, the Buick ads say "Welcome to your tedious later years- we build an anodyne sedan to match."

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They should show the AARP wife napping in the front seat. :D
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    edited June 2011
    lol!

    I remember the first gen Lacrosse ad with a guy and his son playing around on a toy racetrack while the father was dreaming of doing the same thing on some staged highway offramps and simulating driving it like a BMW or similar performance sedan.

    Performance? I don' t think so... :sick:

    Should've spent those ad dollars showing it cruising a Piggly Wiggly, showing off it's trunk space and how many groceries grandma can take home with her. Or how cushy soft the seats were, or the quiet ride (if it had one, I don't know. But it was based on the old GrandPrix from the 90's).

    Till this day, one of the most oxymoronic car commercials I think I have ever seen. :D
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    You haven't seen how my wife can drive a first-generation LaCrosse! She'd put that Bimmer driver to shame!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,807
    I have had my 2011 for 3 weeks. It's much larger than my'02, which we still have.
    I like the 'MyFord' touch feature. A lot of the reviewers don't like it, but they have to figure it out pretty quickly.
    Found out today that the turning circle is pretty small, for the vehicle size.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Did anybody see the TV commercial for 21st Century Insurance where the man in the ads recklessly parallel parks a white 1962 Cadillac convertible between two generic moderns cars and knocks their bumpers off? I have no doubt that a '62 Caddy would demolish any modern car and suffer little to no damage itself.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Yep, that's a good one. The bumpers in the Caddy have more metal than the entire modern car.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Heck, and mid 80s Ford Escort passed NHTSA's bumper basher tests with zero damage. Nowadays the average impact damage is $600 or so.

    Having said that, bumpers nowadays are not really bumpers, they are an integral part of crumple zones, designed to absorb impacts and increase passenger safety.

    Ironically, bumpers are not designed to be bumped. Most are foam filled and are meant to absorb an impact just once.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Aesthetics trumped protection. Those old park bench bumpers with accordion strips could take a bump with no sign anything happened, and on older cars with bumper guards, the same thing. Not always very pretty though. Now, a tap and you're out an insurance claim at the least, but they look better.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, we gotta admit, they were often ugly. Especially US-spec bumpers.

    Spoiled more than a few pretty designs.

    Nowadays you often see no rear bumper at all. It's just incorporated in to the rear body work. No bumper sticks out.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    An emphasis on driving skill rather than the lowest common denominator dreck we get on the roads today might make bumpers less of an issue. But it's too late for that now. And I guess it isn't new either, the bumpers were one of the definitions of the malaise era.

    I think modern bumpers are designed to protect light clusters in low speed bumps more than anything else.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Recent licensees can parallel park (though they'll forget in a month), but can they even drive stick?

    Bet the can text like a champ!
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,389
    edited July 2011
    Well, we gotta admit, they were often ugly. Especially US-spec bumpers.

    Spoiled more than a few pretty designs.


    My 1975 2002 looks like it has a railroad tie mounted at each end. At least I don't have to worry if my 16 year old backs it into a pole or similar...

    A couple of years ago someone bumped my wife's X3. It was a very low speed hit. The X3 had a tiny scratch on the rear bumper while the Geo Prizm was a mess. They had to zip-tie the radiator to the front of the upper cross-member and the twisted hood required an extremely hard slam to latch.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Well, they can park between cones in an empty lot. Have them do it between cars on the street. And you can still mess it up and get a license. Our driving rules seem to mirror our racing to the bottom economic and industrial policies.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited July 2011
    The spoiled 16 year olds around here can ask mommy and daddy for the new self-parking Mercedes ML:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/18/2012-mercedes-benz-ml350-bluetec-4matic-first- - -drive-review/

    They won't be wise enough to ask for the diesel, I bet.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Copying one of the worst Lexus innovations, nice. Can't wait to see MB make another self-driving commercial for that.

    Shouldn't be legal for the spawn of the crooked elite to have cars like that. Oligarchy, we has it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited July 2011
    People seem to want that crap. Blame Oprah, maybe, she raved about it and had a Lexus on her show.

    If my kids can't park they'll get bicycles.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    I actually think the idea has some merit. Ford implimented it on the Escape and for a truck with blind spots it would be useful IMO.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    People want it because they are told to do so. One of the fundamental theorems of marketing.

    I like how you treat your kids. I hope you put them in 10 year old Camrys that they have to pay for themselves/
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    I'd be happy with a camera or radar style sensors for that. Or just design vehicles with visibility - which we know is pretty much dead now.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Camry? I'm a Subaru guy, not a Toyota guy.

    10 year old Impreza, perhaps. Or maybe Outback Sport.

    Impreza has been a Top Safey Pick since MY2002, IIRC. So a good, safe choice, and good in winter, too.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Nah, they should get a 13 year-old Buick like I did!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm only 4 years away from that, so I should start planning.

    A beater will work fine. I'll probably call my insurance agent and ask for the top 5 cheapest cars to insure for a teen, because around here it's $2000/year just for insurance for a teen.

    :cry:
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I'll probably call my insurance agent and ask for the top 5 cheapest cars to insure for a teen, because around here it's $2000/year just for insurance for a teen.

    When I went through this exercise with my step-kids, my insurance agent told me a Saturn sedan was the cheapest to insure, if they were the primary driver.

    Perhaps you can find a gently used ION sedan.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    One of my least favorite cars, unfortunately.

    Rental place tried to give me an Ion as an INTERMEDIATE, I thought they were nuts! It was their entry-level car.

    Got a Malibu instead, thankfully.

    I wonder if it's because no one would ever want to steal it! LOL
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    One of my least favorite cars, unfortunately.

    Well, hey, you aren't driving it, your kid is!

    Think of it as a Cobalt with a plastic suit.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The bizarre tacked-on C-pillar bugs the crap out of me.
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