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The ABS is a big pro/con area. Off-road it's not very helpful because you typically aren't wheelin at high enough speeds where locking the brakes will lose control. Alot of times off-road it kicks in when you don't want it to. I think you can pull the ABS fuse to disable it when off-roading. My Taco doesn't have ABS and I've never encountered a situation where I wish I would have had it.
Check out www.tacomaterritory.com and click on the forum. These are all off-roading tacoma owners. Already one extremely modified 01 double cab on there you should check out.
I also gotta agree with sebring95, the supercharger really wakes the V6's right up. They do tend to be sluggish with the automatic, so if you want tire burning torque and HP, do the blower. I'm not sure about the fuel economy though. The Tech at our store said he didn't think it should change the MPG. My T-Bird Super Coupe came from the factory with a supercharged 3.8L V6, and it gets 30 mpg. on the highway, and 21 in town. Although it is hard to keep my foot out of it in town, what a kick to drive. However I think it probably help with the mpg on the highway because of the additional torque, it goes up the hills and mountain roads (paved of corse) in Wyoming with little effort.
about a "deal". 1.9% over invoice was his first
deal. I expect to buy somewhere in Ga. for no
more than $300.00 over. I plan to purchase next
month. I'll then start dealing with local Toyota
dealers for real. I purchased a new '98 Sienna
van that I ordered for $300.00 over. But this time
I'll check other Toyota dealers to find out the
"drive out price". It could still save me several
hundred dollars on the doc fees, etc!
I'll post my best "drive out price" when I make the purchase. I was always told that Toyotas in the Southeast were the most expensive. I don't
believe that now!.
I'll do all my comparsion with the Kelly Blue Book
invoice price.
Good luck to all.
mick
I used Autobytel (via Edmunds) and New Car Buying (via Microsoft CarPoint) to obtain "Internet quotes". I also went to Cobb County Toyota, my local dealer for prices, too.
The short version: Toyota of Roswell provided the best prices and was most up-front about the availability of options, etc than the other dealers. I have purchased three Toyotas from Cobb County Toyota over the last 5 years but was unable to get a better deal than the one I got at Toyota of Roswell. Plus Cobb County Toyota was only interested in selling me what was on their lot. Toyota of Roswell was willing to search and find the truck I wanted.
I ordered a D-cab at $170 over dealer invoice. Numerous Toyota dealers told me that in the South Eastern Toyota (SET) district there is a SET distribution fee. Each SET dealer ostensibly pays this fee to the SET district for each car sold in the SET district. This fee is added to the price of each car. I am unsure if the SET district rebates back to each dealer any of this fee. The fee for the D-cab was $550. I am unsure if the fee cost varies from car to car. Adding the $550 "fee" to the $170 "profit" yields $720 over dealer invoice. This price was for the exact color and equipped truck my wife desired:
2001 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner 2WD V6 Double Cab, lunar mist
Limited Package
Off Road Package
Step Bars
Floor Mats
Bed Extender
Alarm with keyless entry
We also wanted the Sport Shell made by Snugtop but were told it is currently unavailable in the SET district.
I met with Tammy McRee of the Internet Dept at Toyota of Roswell on 12-19-00. We should take delivery this week. You can reach Tammy at 770.594.8696 or via e-mail at
bdcxxxxxtoyotaofroswell@setdlr.com
She is very honest and was frankly a breath of fresh air compared to the other Toyota dealers.
Macon,Ga. The "deal" is $200 over invoice + $550
SET fee as mentioned above. I didn't think I could
save much by driveing to Atlanta, so mhammer
confirmed that. I'll "order" one next month.
I've driven the TRD and non-TRD. I wanted a
locing rear, but don't like the firm ride of the
TRD. By the way, the Admin. fees down here run
about $325.00. I read the these fees were $495
in Atlanta. In 1998 I paid $100.00 for Admin. fees.
Thanks for info.
My problem now is the dealer added $795 for glass etching which I didn't want. I have been trying to get a reply out of them for a week now. The finance girl didn't give me a copy of the contract. I called her the next day when I realized it wasn't in the envelope. She said it would be mailed to me from the bank. Never was. Finally after 3 weeks, I got it from her in the mail. That is when I noticed she added the $795 to the sticker price. She also didn't give me any paperwork for "glass etching". I am pissed.
I have already talked to my attorney and we are ready to take it to the next level if they don't issue a refund.
They also haven't sent me a refund for a payoff difference. A payment was auto debited before they made the payoff. They paid off the new lower amount and haven't sent me a refund for the difference.
If anyone is shopping at toyota of richardson, I would think twice.
$289 - (dealer) documentation fee
$ 23 - Georgia Title Fee
$ 3 - Georgia Lemon Law Fee
Delivery to port was 12-31 followed by a dealer availability of 7-10 days later when the order was placed on 12-19. Delivery to port moved to 1-8 when I checked with Tammy at Toyota of Roswell on 1-2. Last night Tammy told me that port delivery now shows as 1-13 on the "latest computer run". I don't have much confidence in any date her computer spits out now.
The good news is that Tammy says the port has agreed to turn our D-cab within 24 hours of receipt instead of 7-10 days as originally expected.
Tammy says she called the port to obtain info on the delay. The port called the plant at Fremont, CA and learned there is a shortage on some item associated with the Limited Package. She could provide me no additional info. (Don't know why a Toyota dealer can not directly call the plant as a Ford or other "domestic" dealer does. Not sure if it is a Toyota policy or a SET district policy)
My wife and I had scheduled to take a long weekend trip after the original delivery date. Tammy has volunteered to furnish us a free 2001 loaner auto to use during our 1000-mile trip rather than put the mileage on our trade-in SUV.
Perhaps we will take delivery before month-end. We'll see
Seriously, I think I'll find out about this. It might come in handy the next time I want to buy a Tacoma and get told to take what they got here in Texas or don't take anything at all.
On the S.E.T. district fee, the dealers there aren't joshing. The whole southeastern US rights are owned by an organization that they do have pay it. I'm fortunate in that we don't have that here. We have a $89 doc fee with no other hidden fees. I hope this helps
dealer invoice. My local dealer, Butler Toyota in
Macon,Ga. Will sell me a Double Cab at his invoice. Roswell Toyota (Erik) first said $500
over invoice then called me back and said $100
over! I told him no thanks.
I called Marietta Toyota in near Atlanta, they
will sell me one at their invoice. Drive out
price figured out to be $300 less than drive out
price in Macon and both were at "dealer invoice"
You figure. But my Macon dealer won't budge. I
don't think it's worth driving 120 miles to save
$300 over a 4 year car loan. Bottom line is
I'm still at least a month or 2 away from final
purchase. Butler Toyota said "when I'm ready,
he's ready!"
Good luck.
mick
The item numbers to ask for are:
7900,2900,14900,3900
I didn't get prices but they should be about the same as for other applications.
So far at 20,000 miles my Quad is running great. have owned 4-5 toyotas and with some trepidation I bought the dodge. No regrets. It is roomy,has a V8 and is getting 20 mpg.(5spd,regular tires)
I will admit the toyota is interesting but ill wait a year or two before i jump ship
Toyota. My ste-daughter has a new quad 4x4.
We're going to do some very close comparisons
(again). Since Dodge still has $1000 rebate plus
that Farm Bureau $500 rebate. The prices are
the same. I've never owned a Dodge. If I go
Dodge I'm going to purchase an extended warrentee.
Any other thoughts? I'm not going to get a 4x4.
And the 4.7V8 get about the same mileage as the
V6 Tacoma?
mick
Bought the Toyota the day after Thanksgiving. Very happy with it. Just as roomy / confortable inside ( 3" narrower, so 3 adults across in back might be tighter), mileage is 18.5 to 21 (prerunner v6), load capacity is actually 200lbs more. Bed is only 1.5" shorter, leg room is 1" less in front (I'm 6'3 and fit fine), the same in back; but overall the truck is 13" shorter! How long does a hood need to be, anyway? I don't tow anything heavier than a 2500# compressor, so that wasn't an issue, and the Dodge has a speed limiter at 96 mph so you can't even put those extra horses to use for fun.
You get the idea. Post specific questions if you have them, I'll answer.
Ben
In regards to glass etching/theftgaurd,(see post above) The dealership agreed to refund $450 of the $795 charged. I accepted this offer because I didn't want to drag this ordeal out. It's still a rip off at $345 but it least it's not $795.
Has anyone ever tried to install a 1.5 DIN (one of those larger head units designed to fit a GM or Chrysler product) head unit into the double-DIN dash opening of their Tacoma? If yes, did you find a special installation kit for this, or did you have to custom fit it yourself?
Thanks. - Jeffer2
I am in the northern virginia area, and it seems like most of the dealers around here only stock double cabs that have alot of options on them. Does anyone in this area know how to get one of these "couple hundred dollars over invoice" deals that I have read about in the above previous posts? Also, does Toyota have an online inventory system that allows people to check each dealers stock, the way that GM does? Thanks!
nuts and very untrue! I special order-build these constantly for folks.
I am also way off MSRP on all double cabs due to the fact that I fleet so many vehicles a year, my carte-blanche with the trucks works in your favor.
While I have no need to "troll" here for business at all, because I have enough email and prior client business on Tacomas (especially the 4 doors!!) coming out my ears, I am active in a number of forums here (Highlander, Sequoia, Landcruiser, etc) as well as tundrasolutions.com and it pains me to see folks who can't get a fair deal on their trucks, or can't get their trucks the way they want them to be built.
Dianne
dianne@earthlink.net
-Dianne
On the seats, have you tried the limited? I don't really like the sr5/lx seats but the limited are comfortable to me. I've heard people say the reverse also, so alot has to do with your size/etc. I have the sr5/lx seats in mine, but added some lumbar padding and a seat cover which helped tremendously. I have back problems so I'm kinda particular.
I too have the same dilemma...love the Tacoma Double Cab, but the seats are too short (I'm 6'). I have sat in both the Limited and SR5 DC's and found that they are the same. Uncomfortable.
Does anyone have the Topper/Canopy for the back of their DC yet? I have yet to find any info on them from Snugtop, and was wondering if there are windows you can slide open?
Thanks,
Rob
I too have the same dilemma...love the Tacoma Double Cab, but the seats are too short (I'm 6'). I have sat in both the Limited and SR5 DC's and found that they are the same. Uncomfortable.
Does anyone have the Topper/Canopy for the back of their DC yet? I have yet to find any info on them from Snugtop, and was wondering if there are windows you can slide open?
Thanks,
Rob
What are people paying for this truck, in different parts of the country?
I'm a bit surprised people don't like the seats. I'm just over 6'2", 210 lbs, and the seats are fine for me. The longest trip I've been on was about 5 hours, but no complaints from me that day or any other. Ive had the truck about 6 weeks and 3500 miles...
Ben