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2008 Ford Super Duty
Will the '07 Super Duty have completely redesigned sheetmetal or will it be just in front and back?
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Not sure what I think of the headlights, but the rest of the truck looks good. As great as the specs on the new 6.4L Powerstroke look, supposedly a new Duramax is on the way putting out 360hp and 650lb-ft of torque.
The fog lights should have been left in the middle next to the license plate frame, and the steering wheel should have never been redesigned. I'm not to sure I want to buy a truck that looks like this. The 2006 is the best looking style in the Superduty years. Don't change it into that! That AIN'T FORD!!!
The rear end is like an F-150 with the Ford oval in the middle. The tail lights have been turned so the reverse light is on top. That is something a Japanese car company would do. Where does it say "F-250" or "F350" on the tailgate?
The interior is like the F-150 and looks cheesey and cheap compared to the 2006. Ford is not doing a great job on redesigning the Superduty trucks. Spreading the fog lights is a bad idea. Where they shine is where theres already light.
Plus, the headlights are on the bottem and the parking light on top. Thats a crappy Chevy idea.
Keeping them as the 2006 is a great look for the truck. Or how about changing them back to the 1990 style headlights? Ford is turning the Superduyt truck into a "pansie" lookin truck on the inside and just wrong on the front and rear ends. At least the sides haven't changed!
This being the starting message I am in hopes that in the coming months there will be a lot of input on perception and just general feedback on the new super duties as they become available to see and touch.
As a side I would hope that Ford would monitor this forum and take heed on what its potential customers are saying. Let me start by saying, "please loose the faux wood dashboards".
Let the forum begin!
Are they as nice as GM's or do they look cheap ?
Rocky
Bob
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The 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty's patented, hydroformed body structure is made up of two high-strength steel side rails that are welded to the bulkhead and frame. They not only serve to create a very rigid foundation, but the system's modular construction eases assembly and delivers a more dimensionally accurate truck.
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The 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty's frame features a fully boxed front section that has been optimized for safety. The unique front frame horn design lowers the frame by seven inches meeting vehicle compatibility standards without the need for a blocker beam. The design also provides improved vehicle cooling as well as a solid footing for the hydroformed body structure.
Automakers earn an average profit of $13,000 for each full-size pickup they build, excluding incentives and other marketing costs, according to estimates from CNW Marketing Research in Bandon [Oregon].
New Ford Super Duty
If any of you Dodge owners are reading, sad days are coming, the 5.9L is completly redone for 08 with 70% new parts, and let me tell you with the new Cummins for bigger trucks as their benchmark, they will be terrible.
Ford went with the new 6.4L engine to be able to meet the new much stricter emmissions standards for diesels, and to be able to handle ultra low sulphur diesel fuel. Hopefully they learned a hard lesson with the 6.0L
Oil viscosity variations change engine performance. PLUS
Ford did not get the word out DO NOT MOD THIS ENGINE.
Mark.
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This dealer is going for list price. I wish i knew exactly what the dealer pays for their trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's at the bottom of this *Outlaw Power* Intake System page.
http://www.outlawpower.com/productdetail.php?sc=1474
my mind around a company as big as Ford putting out on the
market such a complete piece of junk. And if you know people
that have to really work a truck for a living Dodge and GM
are not much better. Ford, Dodge and GM have been doing this
to us since the 1970's and than they cry bloody murder and
try to give use a guilt complex about not being patriotic
enough when we are forced to buy something made in Japan,
I for one am sick and tired of them peeing on my head and
telling me it's only raining.
stopped delivering to Ford. Something about Ford not paying
for the engines. But it has 2 turbo's instead of one that
way it will cost you 8 thousand dollars to replace them
instead of the normal 4. I've been buying Ford diesel F-350's
since the late 1970's take it from some one who knows, get
the extended warranty and don't do any modifications to the
truck if you want the warranty to be honored.
a complete piece of Junk. I have a 99 7.3 F-350 4X4 which is
a little better. I would like to throw this out for kicks
for the last 10 years or so all of the major diesel makers
have been producing engines for a medium truck market. You
know the trucks we refer to as 2 or 3 ton trucks. Those are
the trucks you see every day delivering soda pop, Beer and
things like that to stores retail outlets of all kinds. Heres the deal, these type of small commercial trucks put more miles on their engines in one year than most people will for the entire time they own a 1 ton. Most of these Diesel Engines are in the 7 to 9 liter size and make from
800 to 1200 ft lbs of torque, because they are used in a
commercial setting if their is anything wrong with the
design of the engine they not only figure it out very
soon after the engine hits the market but it is fixed. I
don't mean just installing a new part, I mean that the
manufacturer will redesign the defective part until they
get it right. Some of these mid size Diesel engines are
very well proven. Know here's the real point to all of this
the current engines that are being used in 1 ton size
trucks weight around 1100 to a little over 1200 pounds.
The mid sized engines weight about 1500 pounds. The
differance of 3 to 4 hundred pounds could easily be
compensated for in the truck design, it;s not really that
big of a deal when you are talking about a truck that
weights over 6 thousand pounds. Not to mention the large
selection of tranny's that can mate up to these engines.
You would think that instead of trying to reinvent the
wheel, that one of the big 3 would be smart enough to just
select a well proven 8 or 9 liter engine, put a fuller 10
speed on the back of it and mount it in a 1 ton truck.
You would finally have what people really want and need.
Heck Mercedes-Benz has a 7.2 liter Diesel called the MBE
926 that makes 330 HP and 1000 pounds of torque, it weights
1235 pounds and is considered a million mile engine. It has
proven itself exstremly reliable in medium duty trucks.
I'm sure Mercedes would love to sign a contract for 50,000
more engines than they sold last year. All in all it's
easy to see why the domestic truck makers are hurting.
know one running them has any common sense.
Ford announced that the Louisville Super Duty plant will be cut from three daily shifts to just one starting Monday march 5 until further notice.
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This is all just legal maneuvering. Ultimately Ford will have to pay a reasonable price for new engines and Navistar will have to pay its fair share of warranty costs.
This really seems like a stupid lawsuit as no court will likely give either party 100% of what its asking for, as the latest court order shows. They are just running up legal bills. This should have gone to arbitration or mediation months ago.
Mark.
yep deseils got long jevety but that isnt the case any more i talk fellow that had 2 v-10s [both 99s]the one he was driving had over 250,000 miles on it his 2nd one had over 450,000 on it. and he had no problems wif them engine wise. now granted these were 99s they problems that yr model.
the resale on deseil i think r reduclus the market is flooded wif deseils and lots of wif low milage. to me u lost ur money if ur trade wif low miles!
yes deseils have a purpose if ur NOT doing a lot of towing i think ur wasting ur money.
my 2nd v-10 06 cc 4x4 4.10 wif 6spd man. i love it! its looking like this one might not get as good of gas milage as my 1st one mabe 16 to 17 on the highway 12 to 13 around down. but still way head of the game looking at the price of fuel for both types. this no brainer.
as for the 08s i dont think they r to bad. to much of that big going on tho.
I am so pissed off. The guy above is 100% correct. The V10 is a way better buy, way cheaper, better fuel economy and you dont have to hunt for a pump to fill up.
Shame on Ford :lemon:
2. You drive more than 20,000 miles per year.
If you purchased a diesel for ego's sake alone, as one of these two conditions do not apply, then that is your problem.
As for the 6.4 gettign poor milage, not of my customers or as far as I know, customers at my dealership have complained.
Mark.
Thanks for any input. Dave