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Here's the cheapest V-6 LaCrosse that our local Fitzmall dealer group has. MSRP of $38K, but an internet price of $33,764. Premium I, FWD, V-6, leather, sunroof, and Onstar.
For comparison, the cheapest Chrysler 300 MSRP's for $31,000 but is internet priced at $26,369. It does have leather, and the 8-speed automatic mated to a 3.6 V-6. But no sunroof, no nav.
Something I noted at the auto show, was that there is no way a protective side molding will be offered on the Impala, the way the upper bodyside creases fall and with the lower-door indentations. The upper model has a chrome side molding very low where it won't do diddly for ding protection. Sheesh. I made sure I had the dealer look for an '11 Malibu with the side moldings, and I see they are still available on the '13 model Malibu. I hate that they're going away, and also feel most cars these days look naked without them...in the old days, with bright trim around the wheel openings and rockers, side moldings cluttered the styling but I don't think so anymore.
Taylor Guitars had no problem figuring out the system and uses Madagascar woods from sustainably managed forests. Gibson just tried to game they system and got caught (twice).
PS
The 2008 amendment was only for plants.
I see logging trucks here every day. Let 'em use American hardwoods. :P
PS
Sitka Spruce is the best sound board wood.
To strum, Yes. For finger picking, I'll take Cedar
Most of my guitars (2 Fenders, 2 Taylor, Martin D15 "Hog") are American Made. I also have 4 bass guitars that came direct from Carvin guitars in Cali...
My wifes Outback came from Indiana
Kind of a shame to see that old electronic stuff go, but I guess there's really no market for it. Even nostalgia buffs probably aren't going to pay much for them.
Between my garage and my grandmother's place, I think we have something like 5 tv's that don't get used anymore. There's an ancient sucker out in my garage, that my roommate says is from the late 40's. Plus, an early 80's Phillips or Magnavox 25" console that one of my coworkers gave me back in 1999. Over at my grandmother's there's my old 19" Toshiba, some old '80's 25" console that my uncle bought back in the 1980's, and a 32" tube tv that I put out in her garage a couple years ago, figuring it would come in handy if we ever needed it again. Highly unlikely, because if one of the newer flat-screens ever breaks, there's no way in hell I'm going to lug that back-breaker back into the house!
Now that I think about it, I think Grandmom has an early 90's Zenith 19" portable sitting around, somewhere. Used to be in her bedroom, but she hadn't watched it (or rather, in her condition, listened to it) in years. Dunno if my Mom got rid of it, or just packed it away somewhere.
That's one dangerous side effect of having too much storage space...there's too much temptation to just pack stuff away for when you "might" need it, rather than simply getting rid of it!
Some early TVs have value, mostly stuff from the 40s, early color units, Predictas, or something in a designer console.
My grandma has a late 80s Daewoo TV in a spare bedroom. But even as she is within spitting distance of 90 years old, she has a Vizio flat panel unit in the living room.
I had a few old VCRs still sitting around, but ultimately threw them out in the late 1990's. One was an old GE top loader that I bought in 1984. I think my Granddad helped me out with that, as well. It was getting to the point that it would eat tapes, wouldn't always record, and my then-wife had ripped the top off of it in one of her moods.
I bought a new tv, a Sanyo I think, 32" in 2000. By that time, VCRs were so cheap that they gave away a free one with the purchase of this tv! I didn't need it, so for awhile, I just let it sit, in the box, and used it as a prop to keep my bedroom door open, which was a little off kilter and would swing closed on its own. I think we gave it to my roommate's grandmother for Christmas.
My mother has a VCR-DVD combo unit from around 2004 - but I think she has finally moved past tapes. All made in China now (maybe Korea or Taiwan if you are lucky), of course.
Here's a youtube video of the exact model we had - I remember the "wood", the "chrome" knobs, and the aux inputs on the front like it was yesterday. Even during malaise, some things were overbuilt. I don't even want to know how many high-inflation dollars my parents spent on it.
Whoa. Don't know about your area/city, but here in my area of N Illinois it is illegal to toss out TV at curbside. In fact, the sanitation engineers doing the collecting will just leave it at the end of the driveway. A very prominent big box electronics store was, still might be, accepting old TVs for recycling. Took a number of those things there including a Sony Betamax HiFi VCR.
I think all electronics are that way, including VCRs, DVD players, stereo equipment, computers and monitors, etc. Which reminds me, I think we have a few old CRTs stuffed away here and there.
I have a feeling that, if I die prematurely, my heirs are going to be cursing me as they sort through all of my old belongings!
Same way here in central Illinois. Trash haulers can't take any electronics and in my neighborhood, the HOA would come screaming if I left a TV in the front lawn. They'll throw a fit if I leave my trash can out to long.
When I purchased a new TV a few months ago, it was big enough where I needed it delivered. Best buy hauled away my 35" Sony Tube and an old 27" RCA from the 80's I needed to get rid off. Really hated to let the Sony go. That was a nice TV from the late 90's. But it was just way to heavy to mess with, so to the recycle pile it went.
Yes, that must have been a real "hernia helper"!
Same here. Had a Sony 32 inch flat screen, very nice picture that was perfect, no problems. But, it weighed 165 pounds. Bought a 46 inch Samsung LED from a big box electronics store in Glenview, Ill a few years ago. They delivered the new 46 inch tv in a box, but more importantly, they hauled away the old Sony.
So now, what is the connection to buying American cars?
Hm, you could have offered the manager $50 less and hauled the TVs yourself in your big Dodge Grand Caravan?
(If you had gotten a hernia moving the TVs, you could go to Mexico for cheap - medical tourism you know. ).
OK. Thanks for getting us back to cars.
Test drove, extensively, vans 13 years ago. Dodge Caravan, Toyota and Honda Odyssey. The Dodge engine sounded and felt like a cement mixer. Not to mention the reliability concerns. Ended up with the Honda Odyssey, still have it as our UTILITY vehicle, and it has been great. A fine piece of engineering by Honda. As usual.
Yes. The power sliders on Ody are great. Was Honda the first to offer these? On a tangent, our Chicago area is originator of sliders per White Castle. Which Frank Sinatra cherished years ago.
We had a Suburban for many, many years and it was getting tired. So, went to look at and drive 2000 models. Suburbans were OK, but way, way overpriced for utility compared to Ody, Caravan and Toyota. Test drove them all, so did wife, and we decided on the Ody. Hung onto the Suburban for a few more years since we have the garage and barn space. The Suburban hauled some very dirty things in those last few years. Like, many, many rolls of sod. Bales of straw. Etc.
We had, iirc, 9 bales of hay in and on top of the Quest one day. Made in Ohio btw (/topic - the van, not the hay).
Oh, no idea who came up with the power sliding doors. One of those foot operated power hatches would be great too.
The Opel/Vauxhall Movano sold in Europe is a rebadged Renault. Unless they can work out a deal with Nissan, GM will plod along with their 20 year old, smaller, less efficient design.
My stepdad bought an '85 Chevy van. Initially, he wanted an Astro, but when he checked them out the Astro, even though it had the largest cargo area of the minivans, was still no match for a "real" van. And, the van was cheaper than an Astro at the time! He had these delusions of starting his own plumbing business but that never took off, so it was pretty much limited to towing his boat and such. It was such a stripper that it didn't even have air conditioning, so it could be a bit of a sweatbox in warm weather. Thankfully it was white, though. Ultimately he sold it to a friend, around 1998 or so I think. I believe it only had 20-30,000 miles on it.
Also kind of interesting that Nissan saw fit to start building their own interpretation of a van....that NV or whatever they call it. To me it looks like a cross between a pickup truck and a van. A long nose, but not quite enough to be a pickup, and tall, but not quite tall enough to be a "proper" van. Kinda ugly, but it probably gets the job done. I wonder how many of them they sell? I've actually been seeing quite a few of them around.
No kidding, kind of unfortunate too. I thought about getting a conversion van a while back. While AWD is offered on the GM vans, they never offered the 6 speed transmission. No way will I have a 5.3/4speed combo again. Just not enough torque/gear ratios for pulling a heavy load. Plus the 1/2 ton vans just aren't rated to tow what a 1/2 ton SUV can, which is a bit of a head scratcher to me. Plus the conversions are fairly expensive.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/09/05/replacement-for-ford-e-series-van-reve- aled/
I kind of like conversions. I had the MB Sprinter conversion for a while. It got great mileage with the diesel engine. It was only tow rated for 5000 lbs. We still ended up staying in Motels so kind of a waste and a hassle finding parking spots it was LOOOOONG.
Yes - the new full size Transit will be offered starting this fall.
Ford Transit
It will be available in 4 configurations, 6 wheelbases, 4 heights. It will offer both an Ecoboost V6 and a diesel 4 cylinder. It will replace the E series and it will be made in the United States - Kansas City to be exact.
As for the Nissan NV, it's is basically an extension of the Titan pickup line. It made more sense to modify the Titan and build it in Canton, MS to fully utilize the line instead of building a new line to build the Renault here to avoid the chicken tax.
Even Fox news has this one right. The article notes the new Transit will be built in Kansas City -not Turkey. Depending on the article noted, the Transit Connect will be built in either Turkey or Spain.
Our posts are crossing - the full size Transit will be made in America so it's not a factor.
I misread the Ford Transit news report. Big one built here, small one still coming from Turkey. And they say the new large Transit will have a diesel option. Should heat up the van competition.
Ford’s Struandale Engine Plant in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, will increase capacity by 31,000 engines a year of the 3.2-liter five-cylinder Power Stroke diesel that will be an option on the new 2014 Transit that goes on sale in the U.S. next year. It will be paired with a 6-speed automatic transmission built in Livonia.
http://www.freep.com/article/20121218/BUSINESS01/121218037/Ford-small-diesel-eng- ine-Transit
It's not built in the United States. The cargo version is made in Germany, then disassembled and shipped to South Carolina for reassembly to avoid the chicken tax. I can understand why they do so - less than 17K Sprinters were sold in 2012. Ford sold 122K hence assembly in the United States.
UPS and FedEx have a lot of them around here.
As they do nationwide. They really don't have a choice in Euro style vans. The Transit and the new Ram ProMaster will get their share of the delivery market.
http://blogs.motortrend.com/should-automakers-be-selling-beta-cars-28191.html#ax- zz2M8SC7S5v
You still have papers from 1979???...even the IRS can't go back that far...:):):)
Don't get me started about the smokers everywhere. Or about the rip-off mechanics who would put grease on the shocks to rob the senior drivers. Or about cars breaking down all the time.