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Also it looks like for 2014, VW is dropping the 2 yr included service and 2 yr warranty for a 3 yr/36K warranty.
Bottom line is I don't trust the reliability of any brand after warranty including Lexus. I get a sense that the Touareg is kind of a halo vehicle for VW. So they take extra steps to insure customer satisfaction. This is my first new vehicle to have an automatic 20 day complete inspection. With a loaner of my choice to wander around in while they inspected and detailed my vehicle. The loaner was a Beetle TDI that would be high on my list of runabouts if we really needed one. What a fun car to drive and 50 MPG indicated when we got back to the dealership. The only additional warranty that I purchased was 4 year 48k mile B-B with all service and a complete front and rear brake job. Another poster said that was well worth $975.
Here's how my dealer handled a similar issue- Several months ago I was on my way back from an assignment in Northern Ky when my son called and said the low coolant light came on in his X3 and that a couple of minutes later the temp gauge went into the red zone. I have threatened him with a slow and painful death if he drives one of my BMWs any distance with the temperature gauge pegged, so he pulled off as soon as it was safe to do so. I told him to wait until it cooled down and then drive it home(he was @1 mile away). When I got home a quick inspection revealed that the coolant expansion tank had cracked(after "only" 9 years and 148k miles). I really didn't have the time to perform the R&R myself so I used my insurance breakdown coverage and had it towed to my dealer. I called the dealer at 7:30 the following day(Friday) but their phone system was down. However, an advisor soon called me on his own cell phone to find out why the truck was there. About one hour later my regular advisor followed up and confirmed my diagnosis. While I had it there I authorized replacement of the seeping valve cover gasket(another job I had been planning to do). At 12:45 they called and said the car was ready to go- and it was washed and vacuumed when I picked it up. This is why my wife is extremely hesitant to stray from the Munich fold(and this dealer)- and I can't say I blame her. I didn't expect it to be finished before the following Monday; never mind in less than 6 hours. I know of more than a few dealer service departments where the staff would have simply sat on their hands until the phone system was repaired.
Two BIG thumbs-up to Swope BMW in Louisville, KY!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Turned out I used it three times - but on the head gaskets.
Another Toyota would have run better most likely, but man, I loved that body style.
The other options were those small commercial looking vans around. Or a VW, and their vans were lousy runners.
I think the Chrysler minivans have sold well despite some of the problems they've had simply due to being one of the better designed vans (not necessarily with the mechanicals), they looked better than most inside and out and the few times I've driven them, I think they drove nice too.
No.
Period.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
The size of the Acadia is the only thing i like about it. To get this capacity I would have to buy a BOF full sized SUV and it's 12 mpg which I'm not particularly fond of. Guess we'll have to sell one of the dogs with the Acadia.
True that the water pump would be covered under either the recall or the powertrain but what is more expensive would be replacing the rack and the alignment that you have to do after installing it.
What's interesting is that the dealer put me in a Mazda 3 which I absolutely cannot stand like the ford Focus I had the other week. Noisy clunky cheap. That's all I can say.
I looked at them when I started thinking about getting rid of the Sequoia. I talked to an owner that loved his except he could never get over 16 MPG. Which was as bad as what I was driving.
Typically minivans like Odyssey and Sienna ride better, get better mileage, AND have more room than the the bigger SUVs. Somehow some people think having sliding doors makes them less "manly". I'm not one of them -- I'm all for practicality.
The only real reason I can see for the large SUVs is either needing off road capability (and how many really do that?) or significant towing.
You could get 16 mpg out of that Sequoia with the 4.7?
Only on highway trips using NON CA gas. Never got over 15 MPG using CA gas. Last trip to Indiana I averaged 17.04 MPG driving 5473 miles. Best tank was 19.81 MPG using Alamagordo, NM gas. Worst was 14.71 MPG on the first leg of the trip using CA gas. Hope to get 30+ on my trip this fall to Indiana. I don't think CA has screwed up the diesel like they have the gas. I will know after this trip.
Had a Chevy Suburban for 14 years, have a Honda Odyssey for 13 years now. Had them side-by-side for over 3 years and the Honda was superior to the Suburban in hauling capacity, handling, comfort and gas mileage.
How much is diesel going for in CA? Last time I rented a diesel F250 it was about $5.15 almost a buck more than regular. I was shocked cause that F250 with 4000 miles gave me 9 mpg with no load and 6-7 mpg with a load.
Wash and vacuumed? I was just glad to get it back in one piece and working. Dealer is located in a dusty area near the airport so I ended up washing it. That's ok with me as long as the water pump didn't leak.
Second dealer had the Acadia for two whole days to R/R the rack. Service advisor called yesterday at 6 pm stating that the rack was installed and all they had left was the alignment so the vehicle should be ready for pickup between 1:30 and 2 pm. If they opened at 7am that sure makes for a long alignment job to finish at 1:30.
An F250 diesel that only gets 9 MPG is in bad condition. They should get 18-20 MPG with no load and 12 MPG pulling a 12,000 lb load. That from a friend that hauls cross country with his fifth wheel horse hauler.
Must of got too expensive to cover!
I can't agree more with that statement, but frankly, you have to be a sucker to even buy one in the first place. All the writing has been on the walls for years and years now.
I'm thinking about trading my 2012 Ram just before it hits the 5 year mark, which is when the powertrain warranty expires. Bumper-to-bumper is 3/36.
However, it's getting driven so little, that I doubt it'll even have 30,000 miles on it at the 5 year mark. It'll be one year on September 23, and I think it only has about 4400 miles on it. So unless I start driving more, it may only have 25,000 on it after 5 years.
My rationale though, is that in theory it should need nothing, other than oil and air filter changes, up to the 5 year mark (unless it proves to be a turd). The tires will still probably even be good. But, at that point it might start needing some maintenance stuff. For instance, even though it would be low mileage, after 5 years I'd think it would need a transmission flush, coolant flush, maybe new belts and hoses. And even though spark plugs last a long time nowadays, when you don't drive much they might still get fouled up.
So I figure I'll bail on it before it needs any maintenance, and get into something new. Plus, life goes by fast enough, and I'm starting to get the feeling that I don't want to keep driving the same thing forever. I had my old Intrepid for 10 years, from the age of 29 to 39. Bought the Ram at 42, and I'll be 47 at its 5 year mark. I'd imagine that by the time I turn 90 I'll probably have to give up driving. So, if I was to keep cars 10 years like I did that Intrepid, that would mean there are only four new vehicles in my future, after the Ram (assumes trading at age 52, 62, 72, and 82). That's kind of a scary though!
Although I'd still end up with more vehicles than that, since I'm going to have to replace my 2000 Park Ave, eventually.
But, I'll see how things are when that Ram hits the 5 year mark. If the economy goes to hell and my finances are shot, I'd hang onto it. And if it ends up proving troublesome early on, it'll be gone long before the 5 year mark!
I can't agree more with that statement, but frankly, you have to be a sucker to even buy one in the first place. All the writing has been on the walls for years and years now.
According to Consumer Reports, the Ram has an average reliability rating, I think. So, that's not too bad. I think the GM trucks and F-150 are about the same (although GM just redesigned for 2014 and it's too early to tell with them). The Nissan Titan, I think, was actually rated Much worse than Average! But the Toyota Tundra was either Better, or Much Better than Average.
I've heard people complain about the styling of the Tundra, but personally, I don't mind it. However, I'm sure a Tundra would have cost a lot more than my Ram did. And while it might do better at resale time, pickups in general do tend to hold their value anyway, so I don't think I'd take too much of a bath, trading in the Ram.
Not that there's ever been anything completely false, factually, posted about GM here before.
Yes they do. I paid $14 after rebates for the least expensive full size truck in 2006 - a 4.3L manual trans Silverado 2wd work truck. AC & CD were standard and it actually had a couple of options: rear window, heavy duty suspension and tinted glass. I think it would sell for at least $9K today which after 7 years would only average out to about $700 per year in deprciation. Of course loaded up trucks lose alot more.\
It has been a good truck.Very reliable and actually gets a lot better mileage than some older 6 cyl F-150's we have had. The truck has the coldest AC I have ever experienced in a vehicle (probably due to the lack of back seat)
But the manual trans is the low point. Very balky. The old 4.3 V-6 is a solid engine. We had an Astro that went 320K.
"Cadillac 4-year/50,000-mile1 Bumper-to-Bumper Limited Warranty with no deductible
Cadillac 6-year/70,000-mile1 Transferable Powertrain Limited Warranty with no deductible for 2013 models (5-years/100,000-miles1 for 2012 and older models).
Cadillac 6-year/70,000-mile1 Roadside Assistance for 2013 models (5-years/100,000-miles1 for 2012 and older models).
Cadillac 6-year/70,000-mile1 Courtesy Transportation for 2013 models (5-years/100,00-miles1 for 2012 and older models)"
After my "experience" in the mid 1980's with my new Chevy S10 Blazer, I wouldn't have touched another Chevrolet product for years, even if the warranty covered 100% of every item's cost, and lasted the rest of my lifetime.
It took me 16 years to muster the courage to try another GM product after that fiasco...
After reading about them I thought the same way until I had the chance to rent two others with the same result. With diesel at $5 and mileage so bad can't figure buying a Ford diesel anytime soon. Course I usually drive half tons anyway.
I'm picking up the vehicle today. Whether I make it home or trade on the way home we shall see. What's unfortunate is that there's nothing offered by the foreign makes in this size. I don't want to end up with an Armada or Sequoia.
Rofl
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250%20super%20duty/diesel%20v8
It is obvious you don't like diesels and that is fine. You can always come to San Diego CA and pay $4.89 a gallon for RUG. And $5.09 for Premium.
Unless your miles are mostly under 10 - 15 minutes one way, I don't think it will need any of those items. Plugs will be barely used. A tranny flush? No way..in fact better to stay away from tran flushing. I hear all the time that it causes more issues than it saves. It is a revenue generator for the dealership. Belts and hoses? No way, unless you happen to have gotten a bad batch of rubber. A belt maybe, ONLY if it was a faulty one from new AND had a faulty tensioner to boot. Highly unlikely. Coolant might be 10 year coolant. Check your OM. My 05 Honda came with 10 year coolant. If you think a Jiffy Lube might have at one time "topped it up" with regular coolant, then that action alone will degrade the long life coolant to regular life coolant. Put a padlock on anything with a lid if you go to Jiffy Lube type joints..but check things yourself. Pick a none humid day if you ever find you have to remove the brake fluid reservoir cap.
I'd be more concerned with wiring connection glitches if you think you ended up with a bad truck and the stalling becomes an ongoing challenge to fix. If after 2 attempts at the same dealer without success, definitely source a new head at a different dealer. Could be a software reflash type thing. Or could be a bigger PITA, who knows. 2nd opinions with a fresh head are key to stuff like this if the same guy can't fix it.
A solution would be an AWD model with optional grd clearance spacing, and a turbo diesel. A man can dream..
We did tear off the brake equalizer one trip into the boonies on the Voyager but I still think it had more GC than the Quest.
The other irritant is the Voyager came with 14 or 15" tires (per TireRack - I don't remember what we had). Yet it still managed to clear most stuff that we drive.
"How come when I was looking at Cadillac recently I saw power train warranties much less than the 5 year 100K mile version of what must be only in the past?"
Six years is "much less" than five years?
On our 2011 Malibu, we've put about 15K annually.
So at the end of five years, we'd still be covered. With the new warranty, we'd be covered less than five.
I don't know what the average mileage is these days, but I suspect we're above average in mileage.
Here's what Caddy's website says about the change:
"Cadillac-specific data shows that the majority of Cadillac owners will reach the 5-year warranty expiration faster than the 100,000-mile threshold. By changing the term to 6-year/70,000-mile1, Cadillac is committed in providing you with an additional 12 months of coverage."
It seems like they'd cover powertrain for 72K miles in six years.
What are BMW's, Acura's, Infiniti's, Benz's powertrain warranties?
Don't know about the Japanese. The MB, BMW, AUDI diesel SUVs I looked at were all 4 year 50k miles bumper to bumper. No separate powertrain warranty. The VW Touareg TDI Lux is the only vehicle in the class with 10 years 100k mile power train warranty. I think they keep the years short to cover their leases and offer high priced additional warranties to those that might keep the vehicles longer. I bought the 7 yr 70k mile extended warranty on both my Sequoia and Nissan PU truck. So the granddaughter that bought our Sequoia has a year of platinum Toyota warranty and 34k miles.
I must add I am not thrilled with the Nissan extended warranty. They did not cover the windshield washer tank when it sprang a leak. $258 to replace. I like the truck ok, I don't think I would buy another. Probably just keep this one till the wheels fall off. I am hoping Ford brings their world class Ranger diesel to the US market.
Make the warranty too short, and buyers shy away from technically advanced autos, both in primary sales and secondary sales, for obvious reasons.
OTOH, make them too long, and the manufacturer discourages "trading up" to a newer model every 3 years or so, and it also has a tendency to "spike up" resale values, cutting out a segment of potential buyers in the secondary market.
Of course, a manufacturer can offer extended warranties on new cars (longer than their competitors) as a sales "enhancement" for a while, which is what I'm guessing Cadillac has done. Caddie is now simply bringing them more in line (slowly) with its perceived competition.
Personally, as a younger man, I would have preferred higher mileage warranties over longer period ones, because with young children, I really put the miles on a car. Now that the kids are gone, so has most of my mileage, and accordingly a longer period warranty has more appeal to me today.
So, is changing a 5-year, 100K mile warranty to a 6-year, 70K warranty a cut or an enhancement?
It all depends on how many miles one drives a year.
Not if they listen to old Bob the lawyer (that's me)...a good number of my Chapter 7s are folks who WERE the co-signers for their brother/son/daughter/cousin/best friend, and then that person failed to make the FIRST payment, suddenly my client is stuck with a repo with a deficiency balance of somewhere between $7-20K...I have all of those clients do this:
'Raise your right hand and repeat after me, three time...I will NEVER co-sign for another person for the next $500 years...I will NEVER co-sign for another person for the next $500 years...I will NEVER co-sign for another person for the next $500 years..."
And, they usually start smiling, realizing that they really do have the power to say "no" to whoever the close friend or close relative may be...
What a sense of freedom...it is a rewarding part of what I do...free folks from what they thought was their "obligation" to do...
I read about them coming to America. And for a minute I thought maybe. Then I remember the lousy 2005 GMC Sierra Hybrid and canceled the thought from my mind. The Canyon/Colorado were such junky trucks in their gas versions. I don't imagine they will get any better. They have been out of production for how long and there are still new ones on dealers lots. I would rather see the T6 Ranger diesels here. Only midsized truck that competes on the World market with the HiLux diesels. In fairness to GM, the Ford Ranger built and sold here the last few years was junk as well. I had one and hated it. No way in a league with the Nissan Frontier I have now. Which to me is superior to the Tacoma.
One time many years ago I was down in the city and came across a purchase potential of an 89 Toyota Cressida. My intent was to buy it and turn it over for a profit. I was staying at my best friend's place and asked him if he could loan me $6600.00 which I would repay as soon as I got home about 3 days later and could do some banking. He didn't blink an eye. Cuz he knew I was good for it. Trust and friendship like that, a price can't be put on. It is a shame so many of your customers will never know that quality of life. Losers every single one.. pffftttt
I just can't relate..even though I am not so naive that abuse like that exists.
Freedom? Freedom is knowing a friend has my back, just as they know I would have theirs.
In 86, they weren't calling the p/u a Frontier yet.
I'm quite interested to learn some of the details of your experiences and why you prefer the Frontier you have now over any Tacoma. My bros has had a new Tacoma every few years for the last decade, and I have borrowed it on occasion. It had its strengths, but overall I know I would never buy one because it had the same type of chassis shudder over bumps that a new 2011 CRV had when I demo'd it. Imagine every little bump having 2 or 3 extra concussion bumbs after. That was my biggest beef with it. My 86 though exhibited no such traits.
I did like the 2.7 inline 4 and 4 sp auto though. Toyota had it dialed for the best compromise of shift down when needed, but FE being its primary goal.